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Anyway in an attempt to wrench this thread back on topic I agree that May is useless. She always says the right things but doesn't actually do anything. The dithering over the article 50 notification is absolutely shambolic.
But can anybody seriously suggest the alternatives are viable? Comrade Jeremy? Tim "the wet fish" Farron? Paul "Eddie Hitler" Nuttall?
British politics has such a dearth of competent and inspiring politicians that instead of voting for the best candidate we are all so used to voting for the least worst candidate instead.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Amen to that brother. America have caught the disease too; I'm struggling to think of a more clueless or less inspiring bunch. And then the politicos wonder why people can't be arsed to vote any more.
The dithering over Article 50 is because the Supreme Court hasn't yet ruled on whether parliament has to be consulted first. Not that I think she would have done it by now anyway mind. You have to have a coherent plan for what happens next first and the corridors of power remain in a incoherent and incompetent panic about the entire thing.
I think to suggest May isn't up to the job is ludicrous, she is clearly a class act. The problem is I don't agree with her, she's Authoritarian, populist and illiberal. Like labour tories should split.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
I don't think it's fair to judge her as being competent or incompetent at this stage considering she's done the sum total of f*ck all since she became PM.
Actually on stuff she could control, she did well.
The reason figures haven't dropped much is because emigration has reduced and we've had fastest growing economy in Europe so we've had much higher EU migration.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
Arguable. She was a virtual nonentity there too. Although given that it's a poisoned chalice she sat quietly long enough so that it didn't ruin her career. The Home Office has been the end if many a politician's career.
On that basis, what proportion of the people of Wales voted for devolution or to extend the assembly's powers in the more recent referendum? That's a nonsense argument.
Because she doesn't pimp the media, I think most from across spectrum respected job she did. It's a poisoned chalice no one ever survives more than a few yrs usually
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
You may have stumbled on something there. The actual winners of the referendum are all the people who didn't vote. Mainly the babies and children who weren't eligible to vote. Someone get the PM on the phone immiediately. Instead of this hard Brexit, soft Brexit bollocks we should actually be turning this country into a sort of teletubby land or giant fun house with ball pools and slides and jelly babies should gush forth from taps instead of water.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
So the overwhelming majority of people either voted for Brexit or did not care enough about remaining to vote for it.
Emphatic result for Brexit if we're being honest.
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
We know what's right because we have so many people like dean who can see into the future and have told us things are going to be completely shit forever because we are no longer in a political union with Malta and Slovakia.
The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
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