| BFG. 16:18 - Jan 3 with 20338 views | connell10 |
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| BFG. on 02:03 - Jan 4 with 2409 views | UPPERLOFTNZ |
heard a whisper that he's homesick and wants to go back to Germany... | |
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| BFG. on 08:37 - Jan 4 with 2262 views | rsonist |
He cost over a million...
I'm disappointed as anyone that he's leaving, but to me it's halfway understandable at least. Also quite frankly it was bothering me how big his arse was getting.
If it was Borysiuk or Ngbakoto we were pushing out then the criticism of the club's strategy or lack thereof would be much more justified. | | | |
| BFG. on 08:48 - Jan 4 with 2231 views | daveB |
Of course its fine to discuss them I just think getting angry and disgusted by them is a bit over the top when half of the rumours never actually happen | | | |
| BFG. on 08:59 - Jan 4 with 2202 views | PinnerPaul |
Why do you say that Clive?
I have no knowledge either way obviously, but he has always come across very well in interviews - admitting he struggled to settle here, and how that effected his form.
Always seems to be a "trier", but admit the last few times I've seen him, he hasn't looked quite right.
Assumed it was because he wasn't fully fit,but maybe ,as you say, there are other "issues" | | | |
| BFG. on 09:05 - Jan 4 with 2179 views | Hunterhoop |
But who can you get for £1m?!
Washington, from League 1, cost us £2.5m rising to £4m depending on appearances/goals...so let's say £2.5m.
Look, if the bloke wants to go back home, then we'll have to let him go.
I just think it's very short sighted at present. He's young, he can hold it up well, he's physical, seems popular with squad, works his socks off, scores 1 in 5. In our position, I think that's pretty good and what we need. I really do doubt we'll find anyone as good without spending more than we bought or sell him for. Although, if his move goes ahead,I'll gladly be proved wrong!
And his arse was his greatest strength! An arse of railway buffer proportions ably used for backing in purposes. Certainly far more useful than Washington's beach weight biceps, which when push comes to shove, proved useless as he bounces off another centre halves. | | | |
| BFG. on 09:19 - Jan 4 with 2154 views | jonno |
Totally agree. January is generally not a good time to buy players, and we've just won two on the trot so maybe things are starting to turn around. We need to work with the players we have. | | | |
| BFG. on 09:24 - Jan 4 with 2137 views | rsonist |
The arse was indeed superbly effective to begin with but it just seemed to get bulkier and bulkier as the season went on, to his detriment IMO. He became lumbering and then a series of glute/hamstring injuries put him out completely.
Washington was an outlier I would say - Peterborough always extract maximum wedge, and the investment was a speculative one inflated by perceived potential. Quite likely a knee-jerk post-Austin panic buy too if we're honest. If we're looking for a limited battering ram for the here and now Gregory wouldn't go for more than £1m, Bogle and Akinde top scoring in L2 are around the half mil mark if that.
Spiritually Polts is proper Rangers, briefly showed us what our club was supposed to be like again, taught us how to love etc. Honestly I'd have thought Ollie would have loved him too - maybe a different bygone Ollie now. Hey ho. [Post edited 4 Jan 2017 9:25]
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| BFG. on 09:41 - Jan 4 with 2096 views | DesertBoot |
My gym always play a really annoying tune that goes "eat, sleep, rave, repeat". We should ask the Loftus Roadrunners to release, "buy, sell, sack, repeat".
We sacked JFH despite during his tenure the wage bill was slashed, young players were drafted into the team and we were mid-table for most of them time - then Tony tweets we should be higher up the table.
In comes Holloway who we are told has been asked to get more from this (amazing) squad of players, be more attack-minded and the notion that Washington will suddenly play in his best position and start scoring lots of goals. Well that didn't last long and here we are again doing what QPR love doing - buying and shifting. [Post edited 5 Jan 2017 9:43]
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| BFG. on 10:20 - Jan 4 with 2006 views | DannytheR |
That's how I always saw Washington too, as a buy mostly driven by wanting to keep the fans happy (this is QPR, after all). We were losing Austin, we had to make it look like there was a plan involved, and from a PR perspective he was the perfect replacement - young, British, lower league goal machine type. Just hasn't worked on the pitch, sadly. | | | |
| BFG. on 10:26 - Jan 4 with 1974 views | simmo |
Can we not play Washington down the middle with a strike partner for a bit before deciding he's shit? After all he was bought on the basis that he was successful doing that but we've played him in that situation what, twice maybe?
As for Polter, I like him and I hope he stays. We've gone through the period it takes players to adapt to this league and he has a strong affinity with the club. I personally think he wants to go back to Germany due to non-football reasons and that's why the club are willing to hear offers, but either way he's gonna be more difficult to replace than people think. [Post edited 4 Jan 2017 10:28]
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| BFG. on 10:30 - Jan 4 with 1956 views | rsonist |
Until we play Wash up top with a partner for a run of games none of us can still really say if he's got it or not. Reading between the lines of TRANSFER FLOP there's a difference between a club buying a bad player and a club buying a good player and then failing him.
Even if we did give him that run of games now we'd probably need to write off the first few to repair the damage to his confidence/instincts. [Post edited 4 Jan 2017 10:30]
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| BFG. on 10:47 - Jan 4 with 1894 views | DannytheR |
I'm sceptical about Washington, but there's a difference between saying he was bought for silly reasons and that he's shît. Pretty much everyone who comes to the club comes here for a silly reason, the DOF and current manager included, and a lot of them are great. | | | |
| BFG. on 10:59 - Jan 4 with 1850 views | LunarJetman |
Until the club stops running as if it were a Twitter democracy nothing is going to change. | | | |
| BFG. on 11:01 - Jan 4 with 1834 views | Bakes |
Told he wouldn't start at Brighton and threw a strop, then came into training the next day saying he was injured, coincidently the same time as his family were over from Germany. | |
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| BFG. on 11:02 - Jan 4 with 1825 views | Gloucs_R |
Sadly, not for the first time. | |
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| BFG. on 11:06 - Jan 4 with 1809 views | stevec |
I take your point, 6 in 6 out is not ideal, but think we're overplaying excuse of tactics and not playing in correct positions, some of these players are just not up to this Division.
Don't think I've ever targeted Perch or Fer and certainly not Phillips (till he'd clearly given up on those round him), always been Luongo, Chery (don't think you'd want to be a defender playing behind those two), Washington and Nkgaboto, but admit the forwards are possibly getting a bum deal due to the ineptitude of centre mid.
So what do you do when the centre mid gets swamped week after week? You go out and find one that doesn't. That problem has to be sorted now.
Turning this round, do you honestly think Luongo, Nkgaboto and Chery will ever be the answer to our problems?
The essence of any good side is to look to improve it. You can't stand still hoping so many players are suddenly going to come right, it rarely ever happens.
If you don't mind me going back to yesteryear, I can remember around 1970 watching a set of youth players, the finest this club ever produced, playing some wonderful football in this Division. You sensed the club were onto something but we spent the next couple of seasons looking good without ever troubling the promotion spots. Why? As good as those players were, we had a forward line that wan't quite up to their standard. So the club had a choice. Stand still and hope a great midfield and full backs could carry us forward (clubs were sniffing around them by then) and risk losing them OR invest in forwards who might just compliment the side. We could have got it wrong. We could have bought no one. We bought Bowles, Givens and Thomas.
If that hadn't happened, the whole side would have broken up.
I don't for one minute think we look anything like that now but it's the duty of every supporter to push the club to do better and if that means change, then change. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 11:32 - Jan 4 with 1732 views | terryb |
Like you Clive, I find the continual changing of the squad every transfer windfow maddening & it has been very costly. Financially & playing wise.
However, the club are still in a postion where they need to reduce the outgoings & try to make a profit in the transfer market. Therefore, we need to sell if the offer reaches the clubs valuation. This applies to ALL players that we have under contract & unfortunately has no limitations on numbers.
Although we are near the bottom of The Championship (Division Two), IMO this is the first window for years that we may receive offers that fulfils the criteria.
It would be nice to see the back of some players (in capitals), but I don't want to lose all of Smithies, CAULKER, HENRY, SANDRO, Chery, Washington, Polter etc. Maybe we will receive enquiries for Luongo & Hall as well.
However, could we afford to reject a £6 million + bid for Smithies? An offer of over £4m for Chery? Removing £1.5m form our wages on Sandro? And so on.
Of course, this leaves us with the very difficult job of recruiting enough players of sufficient ability to replace the departed in the squad. To my mind, we have already "signed" three new players in Furlong, Doughty & Manning.
Are these three ready for a hard half season in the lower reaches of our division? I have no idea, but what a time to find out! Personally, I would prefer that we take this chance & stand by them even if it ended in relegation.
I havel no idea as to any replacements for those that depart. I just hope that they are signed at a reasonable valuation & on the basis that we will develop them as players & increase their worth. I certainly wouldn't like us to sign "like for like" type of players, but I would fail to know if we had!
For a change, perhaps Queens Park Rangers can be the club that gains from the silly January tranasfer market! | | | |
| BFG. on 12:06 - Jan 4 with 1620 views | smegma |
Ghizou what???
Give us a G-eeeeeee, Aaaaaaaaaitch....... | | | |
| BFG. on 12:29 - Jan 4 with 1562 views | PinnerPaul |
............but only 6 points from 6th, we're now 13 points from there. | | | |
| BFG. on 13:12 - Jan 4 with 1433 views | WestbourneR |
Can you both please expand? Are you saying Polter has thrown a strop before?? I've never heard that.
I have to say when Seb Polter was on the podcast I thought he had an almost delusional belief in his own quality - 'i'm not saying i'm perfect because you always improve but...' - I mean we're talking about a player who regularly trips over the ball it lets it slip under his foot when controlling a pass.
One of the biggest mis conceptions is that he's big - he isn't very big and he rarely wins the aerial dual with his centre back, he just backs into the CB and loses out. | |
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| BFG. on 13:17 - Jan 4 with 1399 views | Antti_Heinola |
He tweeted his annoyance at being uninvolved before Ramsey was sacked. JFH brought him in from the cold.
He's a decent player and target man - he and Chery had a good partnership back end of last season, that sadly got phased out.
The four players who scored and assisted about 80% of our goals after Christmas last year until the end of the season could all be gone inside 6 months of the season ending!
Worried by all this to be honest. Hope it works out. May well simply be that Ollie is happy to get a decent fee for Chery and to re-invest and thinks he can replace Polter easily enough, but not encouraged by names like Rodallega. Another new direction. | |
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| BFG. on 13:38 - Jan 4 with 1346 views | Silverfoxqpr |
Blimey, tell you what Doughty better be spraying those 50 yard cross field balls straight to feet, tackling like Souness circa 1978 and be locked into perpetual box to box running mode at the same time if and when he makes the starting 11. Not having a pop at you at all lone ranger, just pointing out that I must have read at least two dozen posts on here recently with regards to Doughty and his return and I'm concerned we're all expecting a bit too much. He's done ok as a holding midfielder when I've seen him play but that's about it. Apologies in advance, off topic I know. | | | |
| BFG. on 13:40 - Jan 4 with 1338 views | DannytheR |
Christ. I'm hoping that Rodallega is just a figment of the imagination of the comically unreliable Get West London. On the other hand, with many of the fans having decided we don't want young, up and coming players from League One and abroad after all, it would be ever so QPR to bring in him and Charlie Adam. | | | |
| BFG. on 14:11 - Jan 4 with 1253 views | Antti_Heinola |
Actually, although I'm more the patient type and am certain Cousins will be a very, very good player for us and I think Luongo gets unfair stick, if the money worked I genuinely think Adam would be a decent fit. | |
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| BFG. on 14:29 - Jan 4 with 1216 views | PlanetHonneywood |
If I woke up next to the female equivalent of BFG, I sure as shit would be reviewing my dating policy and would definitely be looking to do my offloading elsewhere! | |
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