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Brexit .... My thoughts... 11:07 - Jun 16 with 153148 viewsJacksDad

The one thing I am certain of re this vote is that no-one knows for sure what the repercussions economically will be if we pull out. If you listen to the experts it will be better if we stay in, however its all unconvincing. My issue is that after 10 years of Austerity, the services in this country have been cut to the bone, that is services that are needed by us all - not just Immigrants/benefit spongers. We are not in a position to afford the enormous gamble if it all goes t1ts up. I am taking my lead from Ray Winston and gambling responsibly and staying in. If we ever get to situation when everything is adequately funded and horrible 0 hours contracts were abolished ... then maybe it might be worth the risk to pull out. But to do it now is a massive gamble which we just cannot afford to lose.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 10:50 - Jun 19 with 2677 viewsDeepcutHoop

No it won't, the very existence of this referendum says that's not the case, and the fact that it will be a close vote, means that even if we stay in, no one thinks we've given the EU a 'ringing endorsement'.

That's ridiculous.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 10:50 - Jun 19 with 2677 viewsSimonJames

I think the visionary that is Mr Mick Jones summed it up best way back in 1981:
"If I go there will be trouble, An' if I stay it will be double"


100% of people who drink water will die.

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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 10:57 - Jun 19 with 2654 viewsQPR_John

The referendum might well be close but the people that matter are not us but the politicians on the remain side who will still be in power. It is they by their comments in this campaign that have given a ringing endorsement of the EU. The least they have shown is that they believe we cannot exist outside. In or out this referendum has changed the landscape for good.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 11:08 - Jun 19 with 2634 viewsW13R

In or out doesn't really matter if this article is correct?

http://uk.businessinsider.com/green-eu-referendum-not-legally-binding-brexit-201
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 11:11 - Jun 19 with 2630 viewsDeepcutHoop

Cameron is still in charge if we were to leave, unless there's a leadership change, where we end up with a leader that's unelected and one that nearly half the country voted against in the referendum.

That's not ideal either surely?

This referendum is poisonous all round, and only exists as a result of Cameron being utterly desperate, and terrified of another coalition in the GE.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 11:58 - Jun 19 with 2592 viewsQPR_John

I miss the point of your first paragraph nowhere did I suggest that Cameron would not be in charge should we leave. As my argument was about if we remained I fail to see why the position if we left is relevant to the point I was making.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 12:18 - Jun 19 with 2578 viewsDannytheR

It cuts both ways, like all of this bollocks. If you're the EU and you've seen yourselves being portrayed (rightly or wrongly) as a corrupt and destructive occupying force now finally overthrown by Boris, Farage and their merry band, why are you going to want to co-operate with Britain about anything in the future?

Bridges have been burned left, right and centre because of the hysterical nature of this whole campaign, which has been misjudged and disastrously handled by all involved.
[Post edited 19 Jun 2016 12:25]
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 12:31 - Jun 19 with 2559 viewsjohncharles

I up arrowed without realising the message but what the fck, music before politics.

Strong and stable my arse.

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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 12:51 - Jun 19 with 2531 viewsQPR_Jim

Genuine question essextaxiboy but how reactive will a government be to the needs and demands in private sector employment? Say we're short on drainage engineers, not many of those employed in the public sector so private companies will be the ones with the demand, if they advertise and get little or no response or no experienced applicants what mechanism will be in place to alert the government to the skills shortage and allow them to amend the immigration criteria to allow for the jobs to be filled? Or will it be down to the private sector to decide and offer the job to a foreign applicant who would then be waved in? The first way sounds like a very costly exercise with many government man hours required and the second option would be handing over the immigration policy to the private sector as soon as we've got control back anyway.

All I seem to hear is "Australian style points based system" with no explanation of how that would be applied to our situations, so I'm a bit confused at how it's going to work.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 15:49 - Jun 19 with 2455 viewscyprusmel

You wouldn't want to be on the same side as Farage and Boris but are happy to back Cameron and Osborne. Farage is the reason we are having this vote anyway.
It seems to me that you are voting for what you think is best for you and not for your country. My son is voting out and so is his Bulgarian wife who has lived in England for the last 15 years.
[Post edited 19 Jun 2016 16:56]
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 16:17 - Jun 19 with 2412 viewsHonkytonks

Vote remain and this country will descend into the abyss!
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 16:41 - Jun 19 with 2387 viewsQPR_John

But again my point is not why would the EU cooperate should we remain they have no need, Cameron and whoever might lead the Labour Party in the future have made it clear that if the EU says jump they will ask how high
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:05 - Jun 19 with 2357 viewscyprusmel

Why are they going to want to co-operate with Britain about anything in the future,
quite simply money.
[Post edited 19 Jun 2016 17:21]
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:10 - Jun 19 with 2347 viewscyprusmel

All other things aside why would you want to tie yourself to an organization that hasn't been able to have it's books audited for 21 years because no one knows where the money goes to.
Try and do this in the U.K. and see what the powers that be do to you after only one year.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:13 - Jun 19 with 2337 viewsjohncharles

BHS anyone ?

Strong and stable my arse.

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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:15 - Jun 19 with 2336 viewscyprusmel

And look what happened there.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:22 - Jun 19 with 2313 viewsdistortR

Farage and johnson v blair, osborne, goldman sachs......


There is no real alternative offered, ever, is there?
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:27 - Jun 19 with 2292 viewsQPR_John

You have George Galloway on the leave side and Jeremy Corbyn on the remain side
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:27 - Jun 19 with 2289 viewsjohncharles

Yeah, bloody EU. stop interfering. Vote Brexit and let Philip Green do as he pleases. A mere £530 million for taking BHS from a failing company to a failed company. And the staff ? Fck 'em.
When Brexit win Boris will make Greeno a lord so he will be able to pass laws to stop these whinging workers rocking the boat.
Farage will be Archbishop of Canterbury.

Strong and stable my arse.

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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:29 - Jun 19 with 2282 viewsdistortR

Thanks mate, i feel much better about things now!
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:29 - Jun 19 with 2280 viewscyprusmel

Do you think Brexit will win John ?
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:30 - Jun 19 with 2279 viewsQPR_John

Correct me if I am wrong but when Phillip Green was doing as he pleased were we not in the EU. They did not do much about it.
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 17:58 - Jun 19 with 2226 viewsjohncharles

No chance, this referendum bollox. All it's done is whip up hatred and cost jo Cox her life.
[Post edited 19 Jun 2016 17:59]

Strong and stable my arse.

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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 18:05 - Jun 19 with 2212 viewsessextaxiboy

I dont understand your point about the very existence of the vote .
Who do you think has called it and why

Ir there is one vote in it the remain campaign will claim the win and so will The EU .
Its sbsolutely not ridiculous as you will find out in the coming months when they ask us to pay more in the budget .
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Brexit .... My thoughts... on 18:06 - Jun 19 with 2211 viewsjohncharles

I've no idea what that means. Is it good or is it bad. Where do we go from here ?
Still, thank you for pointing that out.

Strong and stable my arse.

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