| Venezuela - a reality checks 23:13 - May 21 with 17933 views | jackrabbit |
I don't know if you've been keeping an eye on Venezuela? It is a socialist regime much lauded by Mr Corbyn as an example of what we should aspire to. Well yes, if you fancy hyperinflation, a worthless currency and empty shelves in shops and supermarkets - how do fancy queuing for hours to buy toilet rolls? In short, this socialist paradise is a modern day catastrophe.
Venezuela is yet another example of the folly that is socialism. The thing is, it's nothing new. We were used to hearing these stories in the latter half of last century, when half of Europe was living the 'Socialist Dream' under the Soviet boot heel. The only thing that changes is that yet another starry-eyed generation of young people have to see for themselves and suffer the disillusion that comes from experience. TheVenezuelan experience will never be repeated in Britain because for all its faults the British electorate will never vote into power a pair of Trotskyite zealots like Corbyn and McDonnell. Here's a flavour:
"Many Venezuelans have already left the country, including Francisco Flores.....
The NHS therapist, who now lives in London, says the regime is based on a principle of keeping everyone “equal but poor”.
This way, the state becomes a nanny and everyone loses the power to do anything because they are so dependent on it.
Venezuela is now suffering from the effects of a deep recession and hyperinflation as the government prints money to try to plug a gap between revenues and spending that is on course to hit 25pc of gross domestic product (GDP) next year."
Pure Corbynism. [Post edited 21 May 2016 23:18]
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 01:22 - May 29 with 1597 views | Darran |
I've got a wonderful Jewish friend,you probably saw my tweet to him yesterday,he's not minted.
I still love him though. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 01:27 - May 29 with 1594 views | londonlisa2001 |
Moslem friends, Jewish friends, you're the planet swans Middle East peace envoy  | | | |
| Venezuela - a reality checks on 01:36 - May 29 with 1589 views | Darran |
I might be Lis but I'm not religious and they all know it.
They know where I'm coming from and that's living in the real world. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 10:39 - May 29 with 1526 views | blueytheblue |
Really wish my wife was excellent at making money.
She's not bad with money - not into handbags and shoes so manages money fairly well but a sample size of one is a bit small for a generalisation... | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 10:39 - May 29 with 1524 views | blueytheblue |
Tony Blair with better hair. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 10:52 - May 29 with 1492 views | exiledclaseboy |
She's a disgrace to her cultural stereotype. Oy vey mun. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 11:40 - May 29 with 1464 views | blueytheblue |
I know - and get this, she's got a small nose too. Letting the tribe down... | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 12:02 - May 29 with 1455 views | donkeylabour |
There's about 16m Jews in the 'World' in comparative terms this isn't even a debate.
I'm actually shocked I'm having to defend the bleeding obvious, I say this as someone who has no dog in the fight.
I don't want to get into a semantics debate, to me it's not a debating point it's obvious. The question is does it matter and should we care. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 12:17 - May 29 with 1440 views | Highjack |
So you admit to being anti semantic then? Just as I thought. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 14:29 - May 29 with 1413 views | Highjack |
Has nobody suggested to George osbourne that the best way to improve the nations economy is to force everyone to convert to Judaism. We'd all be billionaires in weeks. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:07 - May 29 with 1391 views | donkeylabour |
If stating a basic truth makes me anti semitic then I guess I am.
Nevermind that I believe in the State of Israel and value the contribution of Jews. I'm anti Semitic for stating a basic fact, quality.
I challenge you to actually prove me wrong. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:10 - May 29 with 1387 views | donkeylabour |
Well yes if we all had a tremendous work ethic, strong culture and taught skills in accountancy from a young age then we probably would be stronger as a Nation.
Am I actually debating this still? Feck me read a bloody book mate, try and understand different faiths, ideologies and cultures.
I have not in anyway criticised jewish people in any of my messages, quite the opposite. I have respect for them, as someone who believes in a market economy. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:11 - May 29 with 1385 views | exiledclaseboy |
Some of my best friends are Jewish. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:11 - May 29 with 1384 views | Highjack |
Calm down I never said you were anti Semitic mun.  | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:13 - May 29 with 1381 views | donkeylabour |
Are they fascinating. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:14 - May 29 with 1380 views | exiledclaseboy |
No one has. Perpetuating a cultural stereotype does not an anti semite make. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:15 - May 29 with 1376 views | Highjack |
Which book should I read to gain your insight? I have read several books including Adrian mole, Lord of the rings and Biggles learns to fly but none of them explain why a Jew is always wealthier than a Muslim by default. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:16 - May 29 with 1376 views | donkeylabour |
"So you admit to being anti semantic then? Just as I thought."
No you didn't 
Nevermind chaps, I'm sorry to suggest otherwise.
Everyone is the same, there's no differences we're all equal absolutely no differences in belief systems, biological differences or culture.
Ignorance is bliss  | |
| My father voted labour and his father voted labour and his father voted labour so I vote labour |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:17 - May 29 with 1374 views | exiledclaseboy |
Strawman alert. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:17 - May 29 with 1374 views | blueytheblue |
Eh it does to a degree. Casual anti-semitism is still anti-semitism...though I'd say people often say things in banter between themselves where both parties know there's malicious intent.
Where the stereotype was created with malicious intent, then it should not be perpetuated. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:19 - May 29 with 1371 views | exiledclaseboy |
That's fair enough actually. I was trying to cut him some slack.
As an aside, Dickens hated Jews and that came through in his writing. I'd keep your lad away from Oliver Twist when he's old enough if I were you. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:21 - May 29 with 1368 views | donkeylabour |
Right this is my last post on the subject.
This is what I said:
'Muslims tend to be poorer than Jews and therefore require attention'
The operative word there is "tend"
I'm not going to say anymore than that it's boring. It's not exactly rocket science to see what I'm getting at Palestinians are the underdog at present and require more attention, the State of Israel is powerful and has the power AIPAC lobby in America.
Now on the last point are you really going to suggest that doesn't exist? Really? | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:24 - May 29 with 1365 views | donkeylabour |
I'm probably what you'd term a Zionist as well, if I'm bordering on anti semitic Lord knows what that makes the likes of Corbyn and his friends. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:26 - May 29 with 1361 views | blueytheblue |
Indeed, it was pretty crass sadly a product of the times.
I found the David Lean / Alec Guiness depiction of Fagin to be pretty vile anti-semitism at it's worst. Oh look, the long crooked nose... all it needed was to throw in the Blood Libel and you'd have had a BNP/NF wet dream.
Ron Moody's depiction I felt worked better - taking a Jew to remove the overt anti-semitism. | |
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| Venezuela - a reality checks on 17:30 - May 29 with 1358 views | exiledclaseboy |
Aye problem is the Guiness portrayal is far closer to the character as written. Moody's character was softened into a kindly old rogue for the purposes of a family musical. | |
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