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What will happen here is? Labour will gradually hemorrhage (year on year!) 'core-support' voters from their ideological/thinking non donkey voting wing of which I and many others once (so loyally) belonged. Disgusted by what they're seeing.
To top that? Dai, Gwyn, Idris, Alwyn etc and many other ex-miners and ex-nationalised industry types and their wives are unable to donkey-vote nowadays because there are no ballot-boxes once past those pearly gates. Year on year their numbers get smaller!
Its a case of Labour voting dying a sustained, slow and gradual death!
1. The ex-heavy industrialised/unionised Labour linked donkey voting trend and family tradition of, is dying out! 2. The Welsh working class 'yoof' are no longer willing, engaged, or politically motivated enough in significant enough numbers to replenish/replace lost votes of tens of thousands of deceased die-hards! Big Brother and X-Factor voting is far more important to them now! 3. Intelligent and savvy working class types see the disgraceful Welsh Labour Party bias and are saying f#ck of goodbye to the party!
Give it another ten years and Welsh Labour is going to be in a right sh#t state!
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 13:52 - Apr 16 with 2042 views
Yeh except Labour membership has doubled in Wales, far higher growth than any of the other parties. So, completely wrong yet again.
p.s. I think if you add a few more exclamation marks to your ramblings I think more people will agree with you!! You know what I mean?! I think so! They'll all listen to you then for f$&! sake!!
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 13:52 - Apr 16 with 2042 views
Corbyn factor. Welsh Labour need to up their game. I don't think it is as terminal as some think but they have to up their game big time and there was no sign of that from Carwyn last night.
You have mission in life to hold out your hand,
To help the other guy out,
Help your fellow man.
Stan Ridgway
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 13:59 - Apr 16 with 2038 views
Interesting points, well made. I didn't see the show last night, but you made a pretty good summary.
Out of interest, if you're a socialist, a Corbynite and would be a card-carrying member of the Labour Party, why wouldn't you just join and do what you can to move the party in Wales closer to what you believe is right for the country?
Just seems odd to me that at a time when the Labour Party is just about as transparent and malleable as its been in decades, and far more open to reform than any of the other major parties, you decide to complain on an anonymous forum with no direct link to policy makers?
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 14:02 - Apr 16 with 2014 views
A good point and something I have thought about. I find it a big hypocritical to be a national member when I am so critical at a local level. Thanks for you comments but I did chuck my opinions in at every opportunity so I can't claim it to be an unbiased report ;-)
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You have mission in life to hold out your hand,
To help the other guy out,
Help your fellow man.
Stan Ridgway
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 16:01 - Apr 16 with 1977 views
Let me be of some assistance to your youthful nativity!
Corbyn Labour = Labour Party! Welsh Labour and WAG = Welsh Red Tories! It's like comparing an 'executive' suede shoe someone has just bought on The King's Road/SW10 to an absolutely (bogging!) dog turd that's stuck underneath it!
Let me recap! Welsh steel industry and affected communities £30million!.......Cardiff Bay Opera House £60million!
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 22:31 - Apr 16 with 1919 views
Is there any proof of this, and proof that Welsh Labour has doubled membership as opposed to the PLP? Because it was well publicised that the PLP doubled across the UK because of the 'Corbyn factor'.
Also, anyone who is remotely interested in politics is able to distinguish between Corbyn's left-wing brand of socialism, and Welsh Labour's 'New Labour' slant where they centralise wealth which is far more akin to the Tory model (again, they've made one city the 7th richest in the UK, the rest have regressed, and they still continue to give money to the affluent city). Again, I know you don't like this argument, but surely giving money/jobs/investment to the rich isn't a true Labour left-wing philosophy? Is that not the same philosophy Labour supporters lambaste the tories for?
Do you realise what PLP means? Because your continued references to it make no sense. PLP membership hasn't gone either up or down since Corbyn was elected and a fair chunk of the PLP would like nothing more than seeing Corbyn disappear.
Am I missing something? I can see only one reference to Cardiff, and that's from the Tory candidate. I tend not listen to him very much though, he's lied about the bus services in Gower for the last few months, and his big plan for education in Wales is for each school to get the resources allocated according only to how many pupils it is. In practice, this completely disregards "need" (schools in the east of the authority have far more issues surrounding truancy, nutrition, free school meals etc etc than in the west). A completely irresponsible policy if I've ever heard one.
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 18:06 - Apr 18 with 1766 views
Labour is IMO historically the greatest political party i.e. creating the NHS etc! But?......Sadly Welsh Labour/Wales Labour it is destroying itself from within because it is infiltrated by career politicians whom are more than happy to partake in a treacherous betrayal of party principles! All that inequality, social injustice and Thatcherite division where richer parts of Wales/Welsh society get the cream and the others? Contempt and repeated two finger salutes!
I bet the Tories cannot believe their luck being gifted a seat like Gower and (in the near future!) other constituencies like Wrexham, Swansea West, Llanell etc! Impostors destroying their thinking ideological 'non-donkey' vote by the tens of thousand! Carry on Welsh Labour mugs, your complacency? "What comes around will go around at the polling booth"!
So I'll repeat Cardiff Bay Opera House £60 million, entire Welsh steel industry, its employees, families and affected communities £30 million!
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 19:36 - Apr 18 with 1735 views
You love to repeat this Welsh Opera House vs steel industry figure.
How much would you have given the steel works? What would it have gone towards and under which Welsh Government powers would you point to in order to justifiably/legally give the money? And which part of the non-ringfenced budget would you take the money from and give to the steel works? How long would you "bail the industry out" for? Which budget would you use to contribute to the £15bn pension pot for current and former steelworkers?
Curious that the steel workers union, Community, seem to completely disagree with you about where the money should come from. Also curious that they explicitly support Labour in Wales.
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 19:43 - Apr 18 with 1733 views
The tories weren't gifted Gower, they practically bought it. They outspent Labour 10-1 on long campaign spend and Byron Davies had been knocking off the seat for basically a decade whilst being the list assembly member. Anyway he's been effective at annoying local residents over the last 9 months by basically voting with the Tory whip every step of the way a la tampon tax and fracking under the AONB.
Swansea West is about to be gerrymandered by the Tories and turned into a seat they've (allegedly) illegally been calling Swansea North for a few years.
The main opposition in Llanelli is Plaid. The Tories finished 4th in the general. Nia Griffith increased her majority although I wouldn't be surprised if they take the Assembly seat because of thirsty Keith Davies' antics.
And again it comes up that anyone voting Labour is a brain dead donkey and everyone else is making an informed choice. Bravo the artist formally known as trampie.
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 20:54 - Apr 18 with 1712 views
The missus rang up to register to vote today (after 4 months of my reminding here after we moved house) only to be told it was too late for the May elections.
That's not right it is? I thought today was the last day?
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 21:08 - Apr 18 with 1706 views
Cheers that's what I thought, the woman in Swansea Council is giving out duff info (probably got a backlog and can't be arsed to do them in time). Can't do it online as the site doesn't recognise the new build address.
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 09:11 - Apr 19 with 1671 views
In fairness, it deserves to be repeated. Would you rather the figure that they spend £20m annually just maintaining Cardiff Bay? Or, the £47m Welsh money that got spent on the Millenium Centre? Can you tell me a single thing they've done in Swansea which remotely matches this expenditure? Given that they sold land in SA1 for £15m and promised to use it to build a marina - and then gave that money to an unspecified project elsewhere. This has been going on incessantly for 20 years, yet for some reason, not in any of your posts, have you had a problem with it.
Regarding the link I posted, yes, it was the prospective Tory AM who found that people are fed up of Cardiff centric policies, but just because it's Tory, it doesn't mean it's not true. There were a lot of news interviews with Gower constituents after the GE and the same thing kept going up, 'Labour has neglected us'. Fingers crossed, we vote these jobsworths out and make them fight for our vote, and give us the investment that a second-city deserves.
Seeing as though you agree with Trampie, can you point to which part of the budget the Welsh Government should draw upon to fund the steel industry, and which powers it has to do so? And when this money is given, how long will it be given for? Who will contribute to the existing £15bn pension pot?
Again, the steel workers union, Community, completely disagree with your assessment. Is there something you know that they don't?
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The 2016 Assembly Elections: Which way will you be voting & why? on 11:53 - Apr 19 with 1633 views
Yes, it does. They could stop using budget to give companies like PWC, Aston Martin and Pinewood Studios to open up there, and spare some budget for the south west of Wales.
Seeing as you've ignored the question, I'll tell you, they've not spent that amount of money on a single project in Swansea. I'm sure you'll think that's fair and that Cardiff deserves all the money because they're the capital, so please forgive us for thinking that spending £80m on two buildings alone, is worth more than putting that type of money into the steel works.
Why aren't we getting £80 to help with our city centre regeneration plans? Or SA1? Again, you probably don't care because your love for Labour has probably led you to think that 'what's good for Cardiff is good for Wales'.
You claim all these problems with budget, but then how come they still have money to keep funding projects in Cardiff? The new BBC HQ and Capital Sq etc? The £20m to just maintain Cardiff Bay they'll somehow find this year (more than they're contributing to our city centre regeneration).
Also, since when would any union back the Tories over Labour? Labour points the finger at Westminster, and it leaves them feeling like little old Wales has been bullied by big bad England. That's how they get away with such incompetence, it's the same strategy the SNP use. Everything that's good about the country, they take credit for. Everything that's bad - Westminster's fault.
I was definitely not going to vote for Labour due to their pro-Cardiff stance but have been in touch with my am up here last night over an urgent matter and he has replied this morning personally, even though he is in Bridgend at the launch of the Labour party election manifesto, so our 4 votes will be going to him, the man, not the party. He just happens to be the Labour contender for my constituency.
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