| Adam Johnson on 09:03 - Feb 16 with 2274 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
Haha I only started it as I was amazed he had admitted to it.
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| Adam Johnson on 09:13 - Feb 16 with 2254 views | ItchySphincter |
Apparently I'm morally repugnant for standing up for the rights of children to be children. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 09:22 - Feb 16 with 2242 views | raynor94 |
I really am gobsmacked by some of the post on this thread, would you be as nonchalant if it was your 15 year old daughter being groomed? | |
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| Adam Johnson on 09:58 - Feb 16 with 2218 views | JackFish |
So at what age does "the part she played in this" not make a difference for you? If she was 14 would it have been a problem? 13? Eight? | | | |
| Adam Johnson on 10:22 - Feb 16 with 2172 views | Highjack |
At which point has the prosecution accepted "that she's been complicit in all of this"? The prosecution would never place any blame on the victim in any case.
You are completely missing the point. She probably did enjoy it all, she probably felt like the luckiest girl alive at the time, but the likelihood is she'll look back in 10/20 years time and be absolutely horrified at what he did to her at that age. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 10:47 - Feb 16 with 2134 views | Jackanapes |
If this girl was 16 no one would care, whilst she may stilll be vulnerable. If a kid is a kid at 15, why do they suddenly become adults at 16? If it was my daughter, and she was 16, why would anything be different? It would still be wrong. He would stillbe morally compromised (IMO) 16 is an arbitrary number. So is 15 or 14 or 12. Age is no indicator of sexual maturity or of intellectual maturity. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 10:57 - Feb 16 with 2119 views | swanny |
Yes, you're right. It's an arbitrary number, but it is there and it is the law. He knew the legal age, he googled it ffs - so the world of pain that is currently in is completely and utterly deserved. He couldn't control himself and that is very worrying. He knew it was wrong but thought that he wouldn't get caught. If that poor girl had deleted her texts like he asked her to, she'd be hung drawn and quartered now. The fact that he himself has admitted his wrong doing and yet there are still some on here claiming that she should accept partial responsibility is absolutely staggering. I don't care what you did when you were 15 or if you think your own children are responsibly mature at that age, I don't agree with you and neither does the law. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 12:47 - Feb 16 with 2056 views | Dewi1jack |
More than likely the same ones who were protesting Chedwyn Evans's right to rape, sorry, have sex with non consenting women. The word rape seems to offend certain people defending non consensual or underage sex.
The legal regs state the girl is under age.
Johnson knew the regs and her age.
Yes, it's an arbitrary figure, like the ages for driving, drinking, going military front line, voting etc are.
But, it's a figure that has been put in place to protect people. So trying to justify the fact that she may have consented has no bearing whatsoever. She is of an age where she cannot legally give consent.
I genuinely can't believe the number who are trying to justify screwing an under age girl. But then I couldn't understand posters defending Evans either.
Or the muppets who reckon we should sign Evans and Johnson.
Johnson has admitted underage sex and grooming. He will be on the sex offenders register for that alone.
He won't be allowed within a certain distance of children. How's he supposed to play in a stadium?
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| Adam Johnson on 13:08 - Feb 16 with 2022 views | ItchySphincter |
Yes it is. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:10 - Feb 16 with 2016 views | Jackanapes |
Yes, so as I originally said its the (arbitrary)illegality that is causing the ire.
People break the law all the time.
Where did I say that all children are responsbily mature at that age? Some might be. Thats why I said age is not really a way to classify people. People may be adult at 14 or children at 17. I have never expressed any support for johnson or indicated in anyway that she invited this. If Im challenging people views on this then I must be supporting him? Another example of the binary thinking of most people on here. I certainly dont care if you agree with me if you are willing to judge me without even reading what I have posted. [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 13:14]
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| Adam Johnson on 13:10 - Feb 16 with 2011 views | Jackanapes |
No it isnt. You spoke of a kids right to be a kid. What about an adults right to be an adult? Who are you to decide who is adult and who is a child? [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 13:12]
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| Adam Johnson on 13:15 - Feb 16 with 1985 views | ItchySphincter |
It might not be a hard and fast rule but it's definitely and indicator.
You mentioned a 12 year old so it's totally fair to say that a 16 year old would be more intellectually and sexually mature and the indication would be age. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:16 - Feb 16 with 1983 views | Jackanapes |
Well I advise you not go to Mexico anytime soon. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:16 - Feb 16 with 1975 views | ItchySphincter |
You edited your post after I responded.
I don't decide the law does. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:18 - Feb 16 with 1968 views | ItchySphincter |
Why's that? I'd have no interest in a twelve year old even if it was legal. Would you? | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:19 - Feb 16 with 1968 views | Jackanapes |
So as I said pages and pages ago, its a point of law. People can be immoral as long as they are doing it within the boundaries of the law. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:21 - Feb 16 with 1955 views | Jackanapes |
Yes that must be it it I must be a paedophile because I dont agree with you. My point is its legal there. You being so concerned about the law and all. If he did this is Mexico he wouldnt be breaking any laws, so hes all good then? [Post edited 16 Feb 2016 13:24]
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| Adam Johnson on 13:38 - Feb 16 with 1912 views | ItchySphincter |
That's twisting it if ever I saw it. I haven't implies you are a paedophile btw so no need to be paranoid.
It's not a case of me being obsessed by the law but I'm happy to observe that 16 is set as a minimum age - it doesn't mean that even then I advocate or endorse grown men rushing out to have sex with 16 year olds. It's there to protect children, there is no need to lower it.
I don't think it would be a okay of if he did it in Mexico because I'm not conditioned that way and comparing developing nations and their laws with first world countries is like comparing apples and oranges. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:41 - Feb 16 with 1905 views | Jackanapes |
....and all have been saying all along is that it doesnt become morally acceptable just because it becomes legally acceptable, yet somehow I'm on his side. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:44 - Feb 16 with 1886 views | Loyal |
Safeguarding children is the countries priority, and anyone advocating lowering the age hasn't got children or IMO questionable in their agenda. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:49 - Feb 16 with 1881 views | ItchySphincter |
I'm not saying that at all.
The only thing I disagreed with regarding what you said was the bit about age being no indicator of maturity. I repeat, it may not be the defining factor but it is an indicator.
I'm sure you are every bit as concerned as I am about providing sufficient protection for our children both through the law and at home and haven't implied otherwise. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:52 - Feb 16 with 1877 views | ItchySphincter |
Didn't mean to down arrow sorry, iPhone. It why my spelling has turned to sh!t as well. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 13:54 - Feb 16 with 1867 views | Loyal |
I do it all the time. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 14:29 - Feb 16 with 1786 views | skippyjack |
All i'm doing is pointing out facts.. yet i'm being vilified for pointing out stuff thousands of PhD graduates have actually studied on. | |
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| Adam Johnson on 14:41 - Feb 16 with 1757 views | ItchySphincter |
Don't be so needy skip. | |
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