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| saints threaten legal action on 09:21 - Jul 6 with 1767 views | patred |
who knows........we only have Spurs word he choose them | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 09:23 - Jul 6 with 1758 views | dirk_doone |
and Toby's. | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 09:30 - Jul 6 with 1738 views | BLEEDRED |
Toby would have been happy to stay at Saints, but then agents hawk their players around to the highest bidder.
I don't think Toby has had much say in the matter he has stated he has no idea when he would be playing. He has said the right things to the press ie. I would be happy to stay at Saints, I would like to play at Spuds, I may be playing at AM next season. Covering all outcomes so he comes out of this looking good whatever happens. | | | |
| saints threaten legal action on 11:57 - Jul 6 with 1618 views | stmichael |
Sounds like we have dithered and tried to get him on the cheap.
The fee and wages are very reasonable.
Athletico wont give a f**k who they get the money from.
We should have closed this out weeks ago.
We seem to be reacting to Spurs bid rather than being proactive before they got too involved.
Not a great summer so far with Liverpool bullying us into accepting a low bid for NC and then losing a chunk of that to Palace.
Morgan will go to UTD and the bad blood between LVG and RK is behind the delay.
LVG knows that the player will eventually sign and the longer it go's on the more replacements we lose to other clubs.
He is f**king us over at the moment and again we are dealing with it badly.
LES seems to be struggling at the moment. | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 12:15 - Jul 6 with 1588 views | SaintNick |
Mike you are heading to bedwetting territory again
On one hand you accuse us of being bullied by Liverpool and then on the other you accuse us of NOT lettingAthletico bully us and that we should have just rolled over and paid their price.
It sounds to me like Saints have been trying to negotiate with Athletico but having no luck. Dont forget up to about 2 weeks ago Spurs were nowhere and Athletico were trying to persuade Chelsea to take him in part exchange for Filipe Luis.
Perhaps the bad blood is behind the delay of morgan to United, but I would still rather have Ronald Koeman than not have him.
Im sure we have enough money to capture the players we want so the morgan delay is neither here nor there, and i trust the club to do the right thing,
Why does les seem to be struggling, we have made a couple of decent signings so far and got good money for a player with only a year left on his deal | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 12:20 - Jul 6 with 1573 views | WinchesterExile |
He's a skate ffs. Ignore him. | | | |
| saints threaten legal action on 13:34 - Jul 6 with 1490 views | Boris_ |
What a numbnut he is.
Les clearly done exactly as he should do. The club were almost certainly aware that July 1st was the deadline on Atletico sending over a cheque for 2m Euro's to release Toby from joining us for £6.8m and allowing them to flog him for a few million more.
I'd suggest the club kept deliberately kept quiet and didn't make any noises about it? Why would they bring to the attention of Atletico that they have a deadline to get out of our contract, which would have prompted them to pay up the £2m Euro's then put Toby up for auction?!
Well done Saints, played a blinder there! | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 13:42 - Jul 6 with 1468 views | SonicBoom |
What were we supposed to do about Clyne? He wanted to go. He has one year left on his contract so is only going to have limited value unless two sides start to compete for him which didn't happen. We just had to try to get the most money from Liverpool , from what was a pretty weak negotiating position.
With Morgan we are better placed as he has two years left so we can hold out for a higher fee. | | | |
| saints threaten legal action on 14:01 - Jul 6 with 1432 views | Buggalugs |
You're something else chap...........what a complete load of negative guff. Why the fvck would we rush to sign a player for £12.5m, when we have an agreement to get him for £6.8m?
Saints seem to have played this perfectly in my opinion and I certainly trust the people running our club to know a bit more about the situation than some bedwetter on a mongboard. | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 15:55 - Jul 6 with 1367 views | stmichael |
Mike you are heading to bedwetting territory again
On one hand you accuse us of being bullied by Liverpool and then on the other you accuse us of NOT lettingAthletico bully us and that we should have just rolled over and paid their price.
WE WERE NEVER GETTING HIM FOR 6.8 MILLION AND YOU KNOW IT.
WHY DIDNT WE AGREE TO PAY THE 10/12 MILLION BEFORE SPURS EVEN GOT INVOLVED?
WE TRIED TO GET HIM ON THE CHEAP. IT HASNT WORKED.
It sounds to me like Saints have been trying to negotiate with Athletico but having no luck. Dont forget up to about 2 weeks ago Spurs were nowhere and Athletico were trying to persuade Chelsea to take him in part exchange for Filipe Luis.
WHY WERE SPURS ABLE TO AGREE A FEE AND WE WERE'NT?
Perhaps the bad blood is behind the delay of morgan to United, but I would still rather have Ronald Koeman than not have him.
OF COURSE SO WOULD I. I THINK THAT LVG IS TRYING TO GET ONE OVER RK LEAVING US IN THE LURCH AT THE LAST MINUTE WITH NO TIME TO SIGN ANYONE AND OUR TARGETS GONE ELSEWHERE. IN FOOTBALLING TERMS IT IS A HUGH PROBLEM FOR US AT THE MOMENT.
Im sure we have enough money to capture the players we want so the morgan delay is neither here nor there, and i trust the club to do the right thing,
Why does les seem to be struggling, we have made a couple of decent signings so far and got good money for a player with only a year left on his deal
HE TOLD US CLYNE WOULD PROBABLY STAY HE DIDNT. HE TOLD US TOBY WOULD PROBABLY STAY - HE LOOKS LIKE HE WONT. THE MORGAN SITUATION IS OUT OF CONTROL. THATS STRUGGLING IN MY EYES. | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 16:05 - Jul 6 with 1344 views | Buggalugs |
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| saints threaten legal action on 16:23 - Jul 6 with 1319 views | Boris_ |
stmichael is a skate c*nt | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 16:39 - Jul 6 with 1298 views | Buggalugs |
I'd be inclined to go for more of a thumb-sucking mummy's boy, who stamps his feet and grizzles when the other children don't listen to him.
That reply to Nick is the epitome of bedwetting........in all it's glory! | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 17:36 - Jul 6 with 1221 views | GasGiant |
If we haven't all learned by now the only thing that counts in football is money. Money always wins. The Premiership is awash with "Illegal" approaches and for all the heat and anger from fans and chairmen the outcome always favours the rich club. The more we rely on the "legal" argument rather than the "money "argument the less likely we are to see Toby Alderweireld in a Saints shirt in August. | | | |
| saints threaten legal action on 17:37 - Jul 6 with 1200 views | ClickInsect |
The Saints have paid a blinder line, is only valid if he turns up for training at Staplewood in the next week.
Otherwise it's a bizarre stretch, for non T.U.I posters, to suggest that Saints purposely held off agreeing a fee in the expectation that the selling club would be too stupid to provide competent administration.
Considering the money at stake, it seems like it's in Athleti's interest to sell the player to Spurs and to then argue & try to settle with us about the difference between the 6.8 million agreed fee and the fee paid by Spurs. Which should result in a couple of million back in our pocket. Hopefully it'll cover the Mayuka fee.
Unfortunately though, no Toby, which was the only thing that mattered. I don't know why we didn't offer the going rate for him in January. Well actually I do know. But let's wait and see how it pans out. | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 17:48 - Jul 6 with 1181 views | 1885_SFC |
The whole' Tobygate' saga looks like it's going to end in tears for Saints I fear.
What a bloody complete balls-up - no matter who's in the right or in the wrong. How on earth did it all come to this?!?! | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 18:35 - Jul 6 with 1113 views | ClickInsect |
For the same reason that Clyne & Cork weren't offered contracts, etc. etc. The club should have offered 10m cash on Jan 1st.
The player will end up going to Spurs for the same reason that Clyne went to Liverpool. Because he'll likely double his money.
It's had to claim that the club isn't involved in sustained propaganda campaigns, when they brief the press for months on end, that they are hoping or want Clyne to sign a new contract. I'd like a hot oil massage from Rita Ora, but while she's being offered better elsewhere she's hardly likely to take it!
Just like last summer, just like with Jack Cork, the club made no genuine attempt to keep Clyne. Because he couldn't, wouldn't & shouldn't sign a contract worth 45k a week. Offering him that deal, a year late, was purely for the sake of deniability.
The club is better run as a business without him, no question. But I'd prefer the toxic arrogance of Nico to the cloying bullshite of the Ralph administration. I don't know a club that works harder on PR than Saints at this point. Both Ralph & Nick have the same issue, because neither play with straight dice, if it ever goes wrong it'll go sour with the fans very quickly. It's a shame, purely from a personality stand-point that Leon Crouch isn't involved anymore. Always came across as an honest bloke & an actual fan. | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 18:52 - Jul 6 with 1082 views | Kennington |
It would've been nice if the club had just bought Toby in the first place rather than a loan; wonder if that was an option? All this loaning is fine for filler like Elia, but Toby was never in danger of being in that bracket.
I posted ages ago that loaning with an option to buy needs a lot of variables to work out, as it's not as simple as trying before you buy. Imagine if Bertrand played the first half of the season like the English Roberto Carlos and kept on banging in 40 yard free kicks every game, no doubt Chelsea would have recalled him and not sold him to us.
Maybe we'll get Toby, but hopefully Les and Ralph will learn from this whole situation. | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 19:35 - Jul 6 with 1021 views | patred |
if you recall the deal was done so late in the window a full transfer would have seen us run out of time.
So we had to go along the season long loan route with "cast iron" commitments for a full transfer as soon as the season was over.
It's Athletico who are trying to move the goalposts | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 21:59 - Jul 6 with 928 views | redblooded |
All this sounds so much like last year! | |
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| saints threaten legal action on 08:28 - Jul 7 with 828 views | RiverSticks |
I've just had a read of AS (madrid sports paper) and it seems their argument is that the contract has expired so they can go ahead and sell him to Spurs. | | | |
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