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Meanwhile in London….
at 13:44 28 Nov 2024

Counterpoint.

I think its the best city in the world.
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Is Europe turning ?
at 17:19 27 Nov 2024

It’s a bit of an odd comparison.

Poland are part of the EU. When they joined in 2004, hundreds of thousands came over, many in the construction trade and we had lots of unhappy British builders who were being undercut.

This couldn’t have happened after Brexit and we can argue the merits of this. We’ve seen the number of EU immigrants fall off a cliff, replaced by those further afield.

Us sharing problems with the Poland could be said demonstrates being in or out of the EU isn’t the primary issue.

As for the march, I’m not really one for protests but could be tempted out for a ‘Keep the UK Secular’ one.
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Re election
at 15:42 26 Nov 2024

...and if we ran the Brexit referendum now, some forecasts show it would be reversed.

We can't run politics like that.
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Re election
at 12:18 26 Nov 2024

Unfortunately we live in a world were you have to, at the very least, bend the truth in order to get elected.

Pretty much every govenment ever has put up taxes in their first term, finding an excuse to do so. If they'd been up front they probably wouldn't have been elected in the first place.

Most probably know this as demonstrated bythe number who voted Labour and reget it (on the other thread) is zero. It was obvious taxes needed to rise.

Some are more extreme than others. That's why I thing Reform as a protest vote againt this kind of thing is nuts. Of all the parties they're the ones offering golden unicorns.

As for the petition, it's pointless really. It's at 2.6 million. Even if it rose to 9 million, after the inevitable bots are taken out you'd still probably end up with the same result, before thinking about the democracy side of it.
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If Ukraine falls
at 13:55 24 Nov 2024

Agreed.

Russia’s GDP spend is going to have significant consequences down the road. It it carries on for another couple of years it will be catastrophic.
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Seventy Five million pounds for the Coronation
at 10:45 23 Nov 2024

Same way that sport, music and art does.

We could compare everything we personally don't like that cost money to the amount of something else it could pay for but for me, that’s a really miserable way to live.
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The I voted labour and want to apologise thread.
at 10:10 23 Nov 2024

Depends.

If money is raised and things get fixed we may look back and say it was worth it. If not you could well be right.

There are a few things they’ve done that I’m not comfortable with but the way it’s being framed is crackers, if unsurprisingly.

Yes, I’m incredibly sorry for pensioners finding things hard but that doesn’t change the fact that as a group, they’re over all one of the better off parts of society. Way better off from children for example where the gap is pretty alarming.

Same sort of argument with farmers.

When money needs to be raised, any tax is going to be unpopular with those being hit. We’ve got a big division in this country in regards to wealth in assets. This is why I’m not surprised that farmers and pensioners are front and centre of the current tensions.
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Seventy Five million pounds for the Coronation
at 09:27 23 Nov 2024

Or….

A very small percentage of farmers are having to make plans to sort out paying (or not) half the amount of IHT of everyone else.

I agree that the likes of James Dyson and Jeremy Clarkson are being caught. Good.
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The I voted labour and want to apologise thread.
at 09:24 23 Nov 2024

Like most new governments, they’re doing the unpopular stuff early on while there’s time.

We’ll see after 2 years whether the direction of travel is the right one.
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Seventy Five million pounds for the Coronation
at 21:25 22 Nov 2024

I’m pretty ambivalent towards the royal family.

I don’t t really care about them but realise that for millions of people, they (and their events) bring some much needed joy.

If we’re waiting for tax just to be spent on exactly the things we see as important, we’re going to be waiting a long time.
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Thomas Cashman .Appeal
at 11:09 21 Nov 2024

Then that's a sentencing issue, nothing to do with the appeal.
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Thomas Cashman .Appeal
at 10:53 21 Nov 2024

I would't suggest that.

I would suggest that the appeal has further tightened the case against this horrible piece of work.

That's a good thing.
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They came for our libraries
at 20:22 19 Nov 2024

Same as the library stories as mentioned in the OP.

Anyone had their lives changed by was was said about libraries?
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The Indy on BlueSky 👍
at 12:09 19 Nov 2024

It may well do but it's pretty good at the moment in a number of ways.

Twitter was horrible in parts before Musk got his hands in it, but I just used it purely for professional reasons and it was great.

Since Musk it's now pretty much unusable.
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Manchester Airport Police attack
at 12:07 19 Nov 2024

Not really as it's not a particularly useful comparison.

What we really could do with knowing (which is all hypothetical, unfortunately) is whether the UK would have been better or worse off if we'd stayed in.

This is what causes arguments because both sides pick figures to suit their positions.
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They came for our libraries
at 20:43 16 Nov 2024

My feeling s on the Tory party completely changed from 2016.

I hope they get back to what they originally stood for.
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They came for our libraries
at 17:59 16 Nov 2024

The OP is about wokeness and I can see what you mean about a perceived waste of money is built in.

I see irony in it that some people who are furious about people not integrating with British culture are also furious when a report is commissioned to try and encourage that not no happen.

Some people are just furious.
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They came for our libraries
at 16:41 16 Nov 2024

I don’t know how much it cost to really judge.

Again, not the OP.
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Wales internationals : Nations League
at 16:19 16 Nov 2024

S4C (and iplayer)
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They came for our libraries
at 16:06 16 Nov 2024

I’d agree that it seems like a waste of money to state the obvious.

That wasn’t the OP though.
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