| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? 14:44 - Nov 19 with 4451 views | WestbourneR |
Does anyone on here thing MH could still get us playing and out of trouble?
I would bet everything have on this earth that we will go down with max 10 points if Hughes stays for the season.
It is clear that he has no chance of reconnecting with these players.
If TF doesn't do the right thing and fire Hughes this week than he is in a dangerous dowward spiral of denial. Whatever the cost he HAS to go.
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 00:59 - Nov 20 with 829 views | Cornish_oooRRRR |
Spot on Neil:
"It may be that they also got away with a lot more, and it was at a time and period where physical athletes could overpower technical teams. That's not the case any more, the aggression in the game is penalised more than ever, so that style is picked up upon more by referees..."
Gary N said and showed as much on SS before the Wham - Stoke game [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 01:47 - Nov 20 with 811 views | INFIRMARY |
Hughes & the Defense Coach |  |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 06:55 - Nov 20 with 785 views | DesertBoot |
No. I've seen little improvement since he walked through our door and really not sure he fully understands the situation we are in.
For such a monumental game to produce such a pathetic team performance means he has to go. |  |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 07:35 - Nov 20 with 768 views | finney |
It is clear to see the players and Hughes have lost each other some of them are it seems only here for a last pay day and that is sad to see.
If they are not playing to get him sacked then feck knows what they are playing at. |  | | |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 07:42 - Nov 20 with 766 views | JonDoeman |
"I actually think he would keep us up, but only just, and probably in similar circumstances to last season. "
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Not a hope in hell Neil. |  |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 07:57 - Nov 20 with 762 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 07:42 - Nov 20 by JonDoeman |
"I actually think he would keep us up, but only just, and probably in similar circumstances to last season. "
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Not a hope in hell Neil. |
Actually, I was stunned by Neil's faith in the Clueless One, too. |  |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 08:01 - Nov 20 with 755 views | Neil_SI |
It's just I don't find it so amazing that he couldn't still somehow keep us up. It's a bit like last season really, it's a lottery and a possibility it could go either way and I only think that if he did, it would be by the skin of his teeth like last season.
It's nothing to do with having faith, that's for sure, I was answering a hypothetical question.
I don't think the fans or the owners would likely accept survival by the skin of our teeth either, what with what has happened to date, hence why I said it was open to debate whether that would be enough to save him. |  | | |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 08:11 - Nov 20 with 741 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 08:01 - Nov 20 by Neil_SI |
It's just I don't find it so amazing that he couldn't still somehow keep us up. It's a bit like last season really, it's a lottery and a possibility it could go either way and I only think that if he did, it would be by the skin of his teeth like last season.
It's nothing to do with having faith, that's for sure, I was answering a hypothetical question.
I don't think the fans or the owners would likely accept survival by the skin of our teeth either, what with what has happened to date, hence why I said it was open to debate whether that would be enough to save him. |
Ok, I shouldn't have used the word 'faith'.
While I cannot rule out the possibility that we will not be relegated under Hughes, I cannot get past his performance so far doesn't give the slightest indication that he is likely to improve. And we are already in a much worse position than last year.
The bloke has to go. | |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 08:18 - Nov 20 with 735 views | Amancalledhorse |
"Does anyone on here thing MH could still get us playing and out of trouble? "
Yes, I do. |  | | |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 08:25 - Nov 20 with 730 views | timcocking |
Not in my lifetime |  | | |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 08:30 - Nov 20 with 726 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 08:18 - Nov 20 by Amancalledhorse |
"Does anyone on here thing MH could still get us playing and out of trouble? "
Yes, I do. |
Seriously, on what do you base that opinion? Where do you see a trend of improvement? Tactics? Team selection? Motivation? | |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 09:52 - Nov 20 with 690 views | Jamie |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 08:01 - Nov 20 by Neil_SI |
It's just I don't find it so amazing that he couldn't still somehow keep us up. It's a bit like last season really, it's a lottery and a possibility it could go either way and I only think that if he did, it would be by the skin of his teeth like last season.
It's nothing to do with having faith, that's for sure, I was answering a hypothetical question.
I don't think the fans or the owners would likely accept survival by the skin of our teeth either, what with what has happened to date, hence why I said it was open to debate whether that would be enough to save him. |
I still maintain that Hughes lucked into the run of form last season. That last 15 minutes against Liverpool injected some spark & belief into the players. The problem I see is that of those playing that day and in the run of wins afterwards, only Taarabt, Diakite & Cisse could lay claim to a starting place now and which of those is truly likely to rouse this current group? |  | | |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 09:56 - Nov 20 with 684 views | Neil_SI |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 09:52 - Nov 20 by Jamie |
I still maintain that Hughes lucked into the run of form last season. That last 15 minutes against Liverpool injected some spark & belief into the players. The problem I see is that of those playing that day and in the run of wins afterwards, only Taarabt, Diakite & Cisse could lay claim to a starting place now and which of those is truly likely to rouse this current group? |
I don't disagree with that, we were very fortunate last season and very lucky.
But it was the club themselves that put our future in jeopardy with the decisions and risks they took. They felt they were justified last season, because we did stay up, but I thought it was an insane thing to do at the time and a massive gamble.
I didn't think Hughes was the right choice for QPR before he arrived and I've not felt he's the right choice during and I won't feel he was the right choice after he leaves, whenever that may be. But, the overriding problem is the culture of the club is the issue and to some degree, he fits the culture of what the owners want to do.
If they don't change their mentality and approach, really, we'll probably just run into similar problems later down the line, with or without Mark Hughes, perhaps with some short term success in the meantime by a new manager, should they decide to replace him. | | | |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:11 - Nov 20 with 669 views | sexton |
Part of our problem is Hughes's rigid adherence to 4-4-2 and sticking square pegs in round holes (eg Granero on the right wing).
At the end of last season, thanks to Cissé's red cards, Hughes was forced to adopt 4-5-1. OK, it didn't work away and it wasn't particularly pretty, but it gave us some solidity.
We are tactically inept and look like a bunch of strangers who haven't been introduced. I can see no prospect of Hughes changing it around. |  | | |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:16 - Nov 20 with 615 views | Charlie1 |
I'd like to have been a fly on the wall at the training ground meeting yesterday. And take in Hughes training today.
It's funny, we bemoan that lot from Battersea and there interferring chairman, but right now, I hope Beard and TF via Skype ( :) !!!) are watching training and listening to player meeting / feedback.
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:17 - Nov 20 with 611 views | highlandbill |
I have not been keen since day one. This was mainly on the basis that he strikes me as a very boring man with little personality or sense of humour. (ie the exact opposite of NW). We dont want a David Brent but some sign of having a more rounded personality would be good,even Arsene smiles now & again!
I feel that some aspects of required management skills are not much different from one industry to another and a crucial factor is the ability to inspire and motivate your staff. I believe that MH is devoid of any ability in this area. On Saturday, if he had any motivational skill it would have been evident immediately the players came onto the pitch after half time. What did we see? More and worse than we saw in the first half. What did he say to them? Did they listen?
Mackie (alone) came out like a lion, he showed the same fire as Taarabt & Nelsen had shown in the first half. I gained the impression that the motivation here was anger, perhaps anger that the club he had tried hard for was now in the shit & he would do all he could to sort matters. Sadly,its rare that one player can make that difference. It needs the whole team to be fired up and that is the Managers job.
I am in despair at the state of my Hoops, never in nearly 50 years of supporting them have I been so down about the club.
I blame Hughes 100%, regardless of what sulking etc goes on in the dressing room. I am 100% certain he cannot change things for the better & I am desperate to see him go. The idea of Rafa is very attractive, a manager who has really achieved something even with the handicap of not speaking the native language too well! My heart would sink if Rednap came in, we have had dodginess in barrowloads and the last thing we need is a spiv.
Having said all of the above a win on Saturday would have me behaving like the bloke in the Fast Show who changes his mind when his mates disagree! |  |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:18 - Nov 20 with 610 views | WestbourneR |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 09:52 - Nov 20 by Jamie |
I still maintain that Hughes lucked into the run of form last season. That last 15 minutes against Liverpool injected some spark & belief into the players. The problem I see is that of those playing that day and in the run of wins afterwards, only Taarabt, Diakite & Cisse could lay claim to a starting place now and which of those is truly likely to rouse this current group? |
Jamies I agree re Liverpool - our 'home fortress' was born out of a Derry header and a Mackie gamble over the top.
We were dead and buried until those two pulled out of the fire.
Hughes had no imput whatsoever. | |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:19 - Nov 20 with 605 views | Jamie |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 09:56 - Nov 20 by Neil_SI |
I don't disagree with that, we were very fortunate last season and very lucky.
But it was the club themselves that put our future in jeopardy with the decisions and risks they took. They felt they were justified last season, because we did stay up, but I thought it was an insane thing to do at the time and a massive gamble.
I didn't think Hughes was the right choice for QPR before he arrived and I've not felt he's the right choice during and I won't feel he was the right choice after he leaves, whenever that may be. But, the overriding problem is the culture of the club is the issue and to some degree, he fits the culture of what the owners want to do.
If they don't change their mentality and approach, really, we'll probably just run into similar problems later down the line, with or without Mark Hughes, perhaps with some short term success in the meantime by a new manager, should they decide to replace him. |
We are in agreement with the flawed model the club is trying to implement. How though do you get across to TF that he is headed down the wrong path. He has no football people within the clubs hierarchy who could be advising him. | | | |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:22 - Nov 20 with 597 views | daveB |
well if the penny dropped this week and Hughes starts dumping the big names and building an actual team then he could turn it around. I doubt he'll get the chance though |  | | |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:24 - Nov 20 with 593 views | TGRRRSSS |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 08:01 - Nov 20 by Neil_SI |
It's just I don't find it so amazing that he couldn't still somehow keep us up. It's a bit like last season really, it's a lottery and a possibility it could go either way and I only think that if he did, it would be by the skin of his teeth like last season.
It's nothing to do with having faith, that's for sure, I was answering a hypothetical question.
I don't think the fans or the owners would likely accept survival by the skin of our teeth either, what with what has happened to date, hence why I said it was open to debate whether that would be enough to save him. |
Neil if we'd won a couple of games then yeah I'd agree he could well keep us up, but the likelihood is as morale gets lower and results get worse and we get more rooted in the position of last then it's less and less likely we're going to get out of it.
Including Chelsea we have 9 games in essence till January window (and players go to Africa Nations for that matter) I generously suggested we could get 8 from that but it was on the optimistic side.
12 games have gone, we've lost 8 and drawn 4. Can you see from my below post any way we'd any more even my generous 8 (which means winning 2 at least)
If we did we'd still only have 12 points by the end of that Chelsea game, surely know side in such a position by Janaury 2nd (IN essence I guess NYD game) any side being in such a bad position and staying up?
I see Gary Neville still believes we can stay up, but take it the United connections means he is backing someone he must know quite well, he wasn't questioned in the way a QPR person might question him either.
I admire the optimism and agree with about 98% of your posts in the last few days but cannot see a way where we will get anywhere near survinving at least under Hughes.
Another management team might do things differently and get people working for each other, as it has been done before. |  | | |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:25 - Nov 20 with 593 views | TW_R |
| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:19 - Nov 20 by Jamie |
We are in agreement with the flawed model the club is trying to implement. How though do you get across to TF that he is headed down the wrong path. He has no football people within the clubs hierarchy who could be advising him. |
Does he really need them though Jamie? He just needs to look at the results to see it's not working.
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:29 - Nov 20 with 581 views | WestbourneR |
Whatever the worries about Redknapp long term (and I share them) I truely believe he could get this group playing and comfortably keep us up.
That is all we need right now. We simply can not afford to go down. | |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:31 - Nov 20 with 576 views | spencer |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:34 - Nov 20 with 566 views | TacticalR |
Oscar Wilde said of George Bernard Shaw "An excellent man: he has no enemies, but none of his friends like him."
It could be said of Leslie Mark Hughes that none of his friends like him, *and* he has many enemies. Perhaps that's why support for him has evaporated so quickly. |  |
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| Is there anyone left who believes Hughes can turn it around? on 10:38 - Nov 20 with 753 views | THEBUSH |
No I don't think he can, he said he's reorganized the club, but for me that was not his job.
Maybe he's concentrated on too many other things and he forgot the principal aim, to have a successful first team.
Like most fans I'm clutching at straws, at the end of the day, we're in the sh*t. |  | | |
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