| To clarify to date 19:30 - Jan 2 with 17395 views | KeithHaynes |
There so much nonsense about we put this on Twitter.
And for everyone you will only remain as conversant as possible by reading everything š Impossible we know.
Plenty of people looking to trip up websites who report from the evidence available. All anonymous and all faceless šš«£
Mind you thanks for the clicks.
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| To clarify to date on 14:46 - Jan 4 with 1943 views | swan_si |
| To clarify to date on 13:18 - Jan 4 by jackrmee |
Tend to agree with you here.
So, do you think it was more of a mis-speak, than that he thought he was getting a new job?
I do. |
me too. |  | | |
| To clarify to date on 14:54 - Jan 4 with 1872 views | KeithHaynes |
| To clarify to date on 14:46 - Jan 4 by swan_si |
me too. |
Any reason why you canāt verbalise your reasoning in a way that isnāt insulting or arrogant so discussions can flow without childish comments ? | |
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| To clarify to date on 15:05 - Jan 4 with 1805 views | swan_si |
| To clarify to date on 14:54 - Jan 4 by KeithHaynes |
Any reason why you canāt verbalise your reasoning in a way that isnāt insulting or arrogant so discussions can flow without childish comments ? |
I stated yesterday that I thought Luke f upped big time with his "contact my agent" statement and that by doing so have dug a big hole that'll be hard to get out of. I also believe he likes to play to the press in his interviews and its something he needs to stop doing. | | | |
| To clarify to date on 15:11 - Jan 4 with 1757 views | KeithHaynes |
| To clarify to date on 15:05 - Jan 4 by swan_si |
I stated yesterday that I thought Luke f upped big time with his "contact my agent" statement and that by doing so have dug a big hole that'll be hard to get out of. I also believe he likes to play to the press in his interviews and its something he needs to stop doing. |
Not how I read it. You were openly challenging the site / Liam expecting us to disclose sources by liking a drunk Vetchonian who canāt control himself when he over indulges. Maybe you were the same ?
Consider yourself in the dunces corner bordering on suspension.
Breach of not being able to verbalise yourself in an adult conversation or explain yourself trying to gang up on people whose league you will never be in. | |
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| To clarify to date on 17:14 - Jan 4 with 1541 views | jack247 |
| To clarify to date on 11:01 - Jan 4 by RichardO |
Are you surprised at about a manager trying to deflect questions while trying to engineer a move away to greener pastures and doing it badly. Whatever he had planned don't think the form in certain games helps him in any way, you have to question is he up to the job if he stays and form take an upturn then it will only help him leave earlier if the chance arrives again.
We have seen ambitious managers move on, some before they have learnt to walk. |
Not at all, thatās exactly what it is.
Letās not try to dress it up as an honest manager trying to be cute with the press or giving naive answers.
He thought he was on his way to West Brom and he was trying to grease the wheels. The insincere back tracking we saw yesterday and in his post match interview today makes no difference. Most of us can see through it and know heāll be desperate to leave the minute a slightly bigger club bats their eyelashes at him. |  | | |
| To clarify to date on 17:16 - Jan 4 with 1533 views | RichardO |
| To clarify to date on 13:18 - Jan 4 by jackrmee |
Tend to agree with you here.
So, do you think it was more of a mis-speak, than that he thought he was getting a new job?
I do. |
My intial thought was a flippant and ill judged comment to the question asked, did he have contact or irons in the fire I have no idea which is why I took a time to comment on the threads as the threads took a turn for the worse given what was being discussed and Williams handling of the situation, once the apologies and were made by William I was interested in the sympathy he expressed to the fans who attended the Portsmouth game and his comments questioning the players that night.
As said earlier I have no idea about whether he had contact with WBA but given football being football it would surprise me if he had. | | | |
| To clarify to date on 17:18 - Jan 4 with 1516 views | union_jack |
| To clarify to date on 17:14 - Jan 4 by jack247 |
Not at all, thatās exactly what it is.
Letās not try to dress it up as an honest manager trying to be cute with the press or giving naive answers.
He thought he was on his way to West Brom and he was trying to grease the wheels. The insincere back tracking we saw yesterday and in his post match interview today makes no difference. Most of us can see through it and know heāll be desperate to leave the minute a slightly bigger club bats their eyelashes at him. |
Poker not his game I think, heās shown his hand through his actions.
Heāll be gone and soon if Coleman wants. Maybe to WBA, who knows? |  |
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| To clarify to date on 17:25 - Jan 4 with 1469 views | jack247 |
| To clarify to date on 17:18 - Jan 4 by union_jack |
Poker not his game I think, heās shown his hand through his actions.
Heāll be gone and soon if Coleman wants. Maybe to WBA, who knows? |
It will work. The only issue heāll have is whether West Brom or anyone else bigger than us will want him. | | | |
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| To clarify to date on 17:30 - Jan 4 with 1438 views | Whiterockin |
| To clarify to date on 17:18 - Jan 4 by union_jack |
Poker not his game I think, heās shown his hand through his actions.
Heāll be gone and soon if Coleman wants. Maybe to WBA, who knows? |
And there lies a problem for me. The window is open and I expect players in and out before our next league game, plus certainly the two weeks after that. Does Coleman bite the bullet now and show he has balls or does he leave it until later in the season and the club treads water. Either way I can't see Williams here next season because the new owners are ambitious and will want to protect their investment. |  | | |
| To clarify to date on 17:39 - Jan 4 with 1394 views | onehunglow |
| To clarify to date on 17:30 - Jan 4 by Whiterockin |
And there lies a problem for me. The window is open and I expect players in and out before our next league game, plus certainly the two weeks after that. Does Coleman bite the bullet now and show he has balls or does he leave it until later in the season and the club treads water. Either way I can't see Williams here next season because the new owners are ambitious and will want to protect their investment. |
Are they ambitious
I mean ,really ambitious
If they are,they will be biding their time
This clown has to go and no spawns draw against WBA ,managekess, isnāt going to change owt
It is the way we play that kills us and sees such commotose home crowds . | |
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| To clarify to date on 17:50 - Jan 4 with 1341 views | Whiterockin |
| To clarify to date on 17:39 - Jan 4 by onehunglow |
Are they ambitious
I mean ,really ambitious
If they are,they will be biding their time
This clown has to go and no spawns draw against WBA ,managekess, isnāt going to change owt
It is the way we play that kills us and sees such commotose home crowds . |
If they are not ambitious why take over the club and pump in another Ā£21M in. | | | |
| To clarify to date on 17:54 - Jan 4 with 1307 views | onehunglow |
| To clarify to date on 17:50 - Jan 4 by Whiterockin |
If they are not ambitious why take over the club and pump in another Ā£21M in. |
Should have said ā trulyā ambitious.
I would have though replacing this coach to be their very first action.
He got out of jail today but is on borrowed time. .
Iām expecting a lot from new ownership.
Iām hoping itās comes to pass .
We need
New coach
Captain
Full backs
Striker
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Deadwood and the sick loaned out
Ideally
We need the crowds back
We need the love | |
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| To clarify to date on 18:03 - Jan 4 with 1261 views | Dr_Winston |
Replacing a manager is expensive and disruptive and not to be done on a whim. I don't doubt that serious conversations are being had between Coleman and the other investors as to whether or not Williams is the right option going forward. Maybe even pre-dating recent shenanigans. Perhaps LW got a whiff of it and that's why he wasn't discouraging interest from elsewhere.
My gut instinct is that they are deeply unconvinced that he is the right person, and had WBA scored the goals they probably deserved to today he might have been out on his arse next week. One thing is for sure, we need more than a Russell Martin tribute act if we're serious about getting out of the division. |  |
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| To clarify to date on 18:04 - Jan 4 with 1255 views | vetchonian |
| To clarify to date on 15:11 - Jan 4 by KeithHaynes |
Not how I read it. You were openly challenging the site / Liam expecting us to disclose sources by liking a drunk Vetchonian who canāt control himself when he over indulges. Maybe you were the same ?
Consider yourself in the dunces corner bordering on suspension.
Breach of not being able to verbalise yourself in an adult conversation or explain yourself trying to gang up on people whose league you will never be in. |
For the record I was stone cold sober unlike some other occasions but fuelled by anger.
Despite the club trying to present a united front and draw a line under this episode an article appeared on here claiming Williams to be a liar.
This mess caused by Williams comments and I don't deny he used the words "they can call my agent...." but I wonder where they came in that interview.....and we're all the comments/answers in the correct sequence.. I have asked if Indy journos were present and could confirm but no response.
The media and by that I include both mainstream and social media have had a field day hanging Williams out to dry
On Thursday there were so many mistruths fying around it was incredible. There were statements of Williams departure ,denials, West Brom accounts claiming deal was done and 1.8M compo agreed.....yet on Friday the manager and chairman Sat together and attempted to put this to bed .
Despite that....this site called Williams out as a liar and said they had proof.
All I asked was to see this.
As a result I've been threatened with expulsion and bullied why ? Because I touched a nerve
Well it seems Williams is a poker player as he seems to be calling someone's bluff
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cj0r6lpll96o
what did the article say now?
Well, start choosing your words better then Luke, because nobody believes in their right mind you didnāt know what your agents were up to. And if this becomes a constant we will prove it.
Looks like he is calling your bluff
I suspect I will be banned after this.
But all I care for is the club | |
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| To clarify to date on 18:38 - Jan 4 with 1135 views | union_jack |
| To clarify to date on 18:04 - Jan 4 by vetchonian |
For the record I was stone cold sober unlike some other occasions but fuelled by anger.
Despite the club trying to present a united front and draw a line under this episode an article appeared on here claiming Williams to be a liar.
This mess caused by Williams comments and I don't deny he used the words "they can call my agent...." but I wonder where they came in that interview.....and we're all the comments/answers in the correct sequence.. I have asked if Indy journos were present and could confirm but no response.
The media and by that I include both mainstream and social media have had a field day hanging Williams out to dry
On Thursday there were so many mistruths fying around it was incredible. There were statements of Williams departure ,denials, West Brom accounts claiming deal was done and 1.8M compo agreed.....yet on Friday the manager and chairman Sat together and attempted to put this to bed .
Despite that....this site called Williams out as a liar and said they had proof.
All I asked was to see this.
As a result I've been threatened with expulsion and bullied why ? Because I touched a nerve
Well it seems Williams is a poker player as he seems to be calling someone's bluff
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cj0r6lpll96o
what did the article say now?
Well, start choosing your words better then Luke, because nobody believes in their right mind you didnāt know what your agents were up to. And if this becomes a constant we will prove it.
Looks like he is calling your bluff
I suspect I will be banned after this.
But all I care for is the club |
The ārumoursā flying around before LW opened his mouth and afterwards were too many for there to be no truth in it. Both Swansea and WBA sources were reporting he was being installed and gave out a compo fee. The bookmakers were offering extremely low odds on his appointment and though I donāt claim to know much about betting I do know enough that people had put amounts of money on him being appointed and would have done so from information from credible sources.
This site has published articles stating things going on behind the scenes and you I believe refuse to believe anything unless sources are betrayed. You need to get real.
If you genuinely believe LW is totally or even partly innocent in this you need to look at it again. Heās lied his way through it and is now trying to back pedal with pathetic statements only the more gullible will believe. He may still go there, I live in hope. | |
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| To clarify to date on 18:46 - Jan 4 with 1076 views | onehunglow |
| To clarify to date on 18:38 - Jan 4 by union_jack |
The ārumoursā flying around before LW opened his mouth and afterwards were too many for there to be no truth in it. Both Swansea and WBA sources were reporting he was being installed and gave out a compo fee. The bookmakers were offering extremely low odds on his appointment and though I donāt claim to know much about betting I do know enough that people had put amounts of money on him being appointed and would have done so from information from credible sources.
This site has published articles stating things going on behind the scenes and you I believe refuse to believe anything unless sources are betrayed. You need to get real.
If you genuinely believe LW is totally or even partly innocent in this you need to look at it again. Heās lied his way through it and is now trying to back pedal with pathetic statements only the more gullible will believe. He may still go there, I live in hope. |
I believe heās touted himself for this job and the Albion have had cold feet
Theyāve pulled the plug
I hope not
We desperately need shot of him,the sooner the better . | |
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| To clarify to date on 18:47 - Jan 4 with 1074 views | vetchonian |
| To clarify to date on 18:38 - Jan 4 by union_jack |
The ārumoursā flying around before LW opened his mouth and afterwards were too many for there to be no truth in it. Both Swansea and WBA sources were reporting he was being installed and gave out a compo fee. The bookmakers were offering extremely low odds on his appointment and though I donāt claim to know much about betting I do know enough that people had put amounts of money on him being appointed and would have done so from information from credible sources.
This site has published articles stating things going on behind the scenes and you I believe refuse to believe anything unless sources are betrayed. You need to get real.
If you genuinely believe LW is totally or even partly innocent in this you need to look at it again. Heās lied his way through it and is now trying to back pedal with pathetic statements only the more gullible will believe. He may still go there, I live in hope. |
no I only wanted the proof that Williams is a liar.
Doesn't necessarily mean sources are revealed......screenshot of an email with names blacked out...
The media is a persuasive tool....
as it stands it's o e persons word against another.
Luke is now being very maive and stupid with this latest announcement or?
This site has provided some good articles such as those on the ownership change. [Post edited 4 Jan 18:48]
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| To clarify to date on 18:48 - Jan 4 with 1063 views | SullutaCreturned |
It doesn't look like he's called anyone''s bluff, not at all. It looks like more of an admission really...
Luke Williams says he has moved on from speculation linking him to West Bromwich Albion, a distraction which the Swansea City head coach admits he "handled poorly".
and when he says...
"It's a situation that I didn't help. I created a lot of the noise without meaning to," said Williams.
Then there's...
Before the West Brom match, Williams had apologised to any fans who may have felt he showed "a lack of commitment" to Swansea by failing to rule out a move to the Baggies.
Failing to rule out a move...what, the move he hadn't heard about?
And finally...
The former Notts County boss says his light-hearted responses to media questions were because there was "absolutely nothing" in the rumours.
Again, those rumours that he claimed he hadn't heard about. Seems he did know about them then so there is definitely a lie being told somewhere, unless he jas just worded things badly AGAIN.
Now where I differ from others is, I don't want him sacked. I want him to learn from this and not repeat mistakes. I had a small knee kerk reaction to him but in the cold light of day, or the darkness of a wet winters eve, who will we get to replace him, how much will it all cost and aren't we better off spending that money on players?
I understand why some would want him gone but lets be fair, loyalty, honesty, we don't see very much of it in football. People expecting Williams to be a paragon of virtue are in the wrong game, those kinds of football people are rocking horse shit! | | | |
| To clarify to date on 18:54 - Jan 4 with 1035 views | vetchonian |
| To clarify to date on 18:48 - Jan 4 by SullutaCreturned |
It doesn't look like he's called anyone''s bluff, not at all. It looks like more of an admission really...
Luke Williams says he has moved on from speculation linking him to West Bromwich Albion, a distraction which the Swansea City head coach admits he "handled poorly".
and when he says...
"It's a situation that I didn't help. I created a lot of the noise without meaning to," said Williams.
Then there's...
Before the West Brom match, Williams had apologised to any fans who may have felt he showed "a lack of commitment" to Swansea by failing to rule out a move to the Baggies.
Failing to rule out a move...what, the move he hadn't heard about?
And finally...
The former Notts County boss says his light-hearted responses to media questions were because there was "absolutely nothing" in the rumours.
Again, those rumours that he claimed he hadn't heard about. Seems he did know about them then so there is definitely a lie being told somewhere, unless he jas just worded things badly AGAIN.
Now where I differ from others is, I don't want him sacked. I want him to learn from this and not repeat mistakes. I had a small knee kerk reaction to him but in the cold light of day, or the darkness of a wet winters eve, who will we get to replace him, how much will it all cost and aren't we better off spending that money on players?
I understand why some would want him gone but lets be fair, loyalty, honesty, we don't see very much of it in football. People expecting Williams to be a paragon of virtue are in the wrong game, those kinds of football people are rocking horse shit! |
I'm with you there.....the only constant is the club
Managers and players drift through......I've seen too many players kissing the badge then at the next window are.off to a bigger pay check.
The point is he is now saying his agent has been incapacitated so how could they have been touting him
Rhe biggest problem. for.me is this all disrupts whatnot happening on the pitch
It was like a library this afternoon I guess as many of the vocal fans are now anti Williams as a result of the media circus......Williams won't have been the first manager or the last to say these things thenissue is nowadays social media etc are all over it.
Do we really want a managerial change when our next match is against those up the road? | |
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| To clarify to date on 18:55 - Jan 4 with 1030 views | union_jack |
| To clarify to date on 18:47 - Jan 4 by vetchonian |
no I only wanted the proof that Williams is a liar.
Doesn't necessarily mean sources are revealed......screenshot of an email with names blacked out...
The media is a persuasive tool....
as it stands it's o e persons word against another.
Luke is now being very maive and stupid with this latest announcement or?
This site has provided some good articles such as those on the ownership change. [Post edited 4 Jan 18:48]
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The proof that he is a liar is all around you. Maybe one of these morsels of proof could be sweeten as circumstantial but thereās a time when the amount of such evidence amounts to overwhelming guilt. Youāre either very naĆÆve or troublemaking. Iāll leave it to you to convince us one way or the other. | |
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| To clarify to date on 19:12 - Jan 4 with 960 views | vetchonian |
| To clarify to date on 18:55 - Jan 4 by union_jack |
The proof that he is a liar is all around you. Maybe one of these morsels of proof could be sweeten as circumstantial but thereās a time when the amount of such evidence amounts to overwhelming guilt. Youāre either very naĆÆve or troublemaking. Iāll leave it to you to convince us one way or the other. |
the circumstantial evidence which came from where?
The media | |
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| To clarify to date on 19:35 - Jan 4 with 886 views | swan_si |
| To clarify to date on 18:04 - Jan 4 by vetchonian |
For the record I was stone cold sober unlike some other occasions but fuelled by anger.
Despite the club trying to present a united front and draw a line under this episode an article appeared on here claiming Williams to be a liar.
This mess caused by Williams comments and I don't deny he used the words "they can call my agent...." but I wonder where they came in that interview.....and we're all the comments/answers in the correct sequence.. I have asked if Indy journos were present and could confirm but no response.
The media and by that I include both mainstream and social media have had a field day hanging Williams out to dry
On Thursday there were so many mistruths fying around it was incredible. There were statements of Williams departure ,denials, West Brom accounts claiming deal was done and 1.8M compo agreed.....yet on Friday the manager and chairman Sat together and attempted to put this to bed .
Despite that....this site called Williams out as a liar and said they had proof.
All I asked was to see this.
As a result I've been threatened with expulsion and bullied why ? Because I touched a nerve
Well it seems Williams is a poker player as he seems to be calling someone's bluff
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cj0r6lpll96o
what did the article say now?
Well, start choosing your words better then Luke, because nobody believes in their right mind you didnāt know what your agents were up to. And if this becomes a constant we will prove it.
Looks like he is calling your bluff
I suspect I will be banned after this.
But all I care for is the club |
Jeez! I wish I could've written that. That's almost identical to my opinion. | | | |
| To clarify to date on 20:42 - Jan 4 with 708 views | SullutaCreturned |
| To clarify to date on 18:54 - Jan 4 by vetchonian |
I'm with you there.....the only constant is the club
Managers and players drift through......I've seen too many players kissing the badge then at the next window are.off to a bigger pay check.
The point is he is now saying his agent has been incapacitated so how could they have been touting him
Rhe biggest problem. for.me is this all disrupts whatnot happening on the pitch
It was like a library this afternoon I guess as many of the vocal fans are now anti Williams as a result of the media circus......Williams won't have been the first manager or the last to say these things thenissue is nowadays social media etc are all over it.
Do we really want a managerial change when our next match is against those up the road? |
Well I was at Portsmouth but my son had a match of his own this morning and we couldn't make both so I let him choose. He chose to play, partly out of anger at the rubbish we witnessed in Pompey I reckon.
Thing is now, shouldn't we let it all drop, for the good of the club? Shouldn't we all get behind the team and let any decision be taken by Coleman? | | | |
| To clarify to date on 20:49 - Jan 4 with 659 views | Whiterockin |
| To clarify to date on 20:42 - Jan 4 by SullutaCreturned |
Well I was at Portsmouth but my son had a match of his own this morning and we couldn't make both so I let him choose. He chose to play, partly out of anger at the rubbish we witnessed in Pompey I reckon.
Thing is now, shouldn't we let it all drop, for the good of the club? Shouldn't we all get behind the team and let any decision be taken by Coleman? |
Do I support Williams no, in my opinion he is a charlatan. Do I support my team yes and will continue to do so. I clapped the players at the end of the game and went down the tunnel before Williams came passed me. It's an uneasy truce for me, but I wish he was gone. | | | |
| To clarify to date on 20:51 - Jan 4 with 643 views | vetchonian |
| To clarify to date on 20:42 - Jan 4 by SullutaCreturned |
Well I was at Portsmouth but my son had a match of his own this morning and we couldn't make both so I let him choose. He chose to play, partly out of anger at the rubbish we witnessed in Pompey I reckon.
Thing is now, shouldn't we let it all drop, for the good of the club? Shouldn't we all get behind the team and let any decision be taken by Coleman? |
I was at Portsmouth too....my first l
league away game for 40 years....wasn't nit miserable
I'm in agreement we should let it drop and let Coleman do what he deems the best.
Unfortunately there is a group who don't agree.... | |
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