| Chair jailed for a year 13:00 - Feb 23 with 70928 views | DevonWhite |
According to The Sun. |  | | |  |
| Chair jailed for a year on 20:06 - Feb 23 with 4538 views | daveB |
| Chair jailed for a year on 17:35 - Feb 23 by kensalriser |
That was my first reaction to the original story. How does a Belgian court claim jurisdiction over an event that no one seems to dispute took place in France? |
Is it due to both being in the EU?
Thats probably added 325 pages to this thread, Sorry Clive |  | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 20:09 - Feb 23 with 4508 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Chair jailed for a year on 20:05 - Feb 23 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I really like the idea of sending Richards in place of Chair. The fcking cnt can sit around all day at someone else's expense, he wouldn't feel any different. |
If Taylor Richards was the QPR player involved and not Chair then you’d get a load more embarrassing posts like this one. |  | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 20:18 - Feb 23 with 4396 views | R_from_afar |
Just another ordinary week for QPR fans:
- Thursday: A crash course in accountancy
- Friday: The dummies guide to the Belgian legal system.
If we're lucky, we might be able to concentrate on football and the - cough - "light relief" of a relegation dogfight before normal service is resumed on Sunday and we're all floundering around trying to grasp the basics of molecular biology or some such  |  |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 20:20 - Feb 23 with 4346 views | Boston |
| Chair jailed for a year on 16:58 - Feb 23 by E17hoop |
8 pages in and I had no idea we had SO many Belgian criminal law specialists here. |
Well, some like to waffle on. | |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 20:34 - Feb 23 with 4173 views | FredManRave |
Apparently he was asked for his take on the current situation earlier on today and Chair reclined to comment... |  |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 20:43 - Feb 23 with 4061 views | colinallcars |
| Chair jailed for a year on 20:18 - Feb 23 by R_from_afar |
Just another ordinary week for QPR fans:
- Thursday: A crash course in accountancy
- Friday: The dummies guide to the Belgian legal system.
If we're lucky, we might be able to concentrate on football and the - cough - "light relief" of a relegation dogfight before normal service is resumed on Sunday and we're all floundering around trying to grasp the basics of molecular biology or some such |
Or perhaps differential calculus.. |  | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 20:57 - Feb 23 with 3917 views | ted_hendrix |
I'd Imagine Chair will be on the bench tomorrow.
If someone else has already done this awful and poorly thought out joke well fck off.
There Is a chaise longue joke somewhere but I can't think of It. |  |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 21:03 - Feb 23 with 3851 views | mart_Goblin |
A penny for Marti’s thoughts tonight . He says all the right things of course but I think privately he’ll be thinking “what the actual fck is going on here?”
Would have been made aware about it when he arrived of course but I seem to think that Chair, his lawyers and maybe the club have not taken this seriously enough.
Relegated or not Marti won’t put up with too much more.
Only my opinion and could be wrong of course. But when the realisation sinks in on not being able to sell our most valuable asset and FFP and points deductions rear their ugly head again this time next year I think Marti might find more attractive work available . |  | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 21:09 - Feb 23 with 3784 views | hamptonhillhoop |
| Chair jailed for a year on 19:58 - Feb 23 by francisbowles |
I don't know Belgian law but it is possible for a British subject to be tried under British Law, in a British court for an offence commited overseas. |
Isn't that only for violent or sexual offences? Not sure. Although, in those circumstances this may have counted. I'd imagine this has something to do with them both being Schengen countries. It's odd though that the French appeared uninterested/unwilling to further a prosecution and the Belgians were |  | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 21:15 - Feb 23 with 3713 views | robith |
Did the rock do so much damage cos he held onto it for so long? |  | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 21:27 - Feb 23 with 3607 views | Spaceman_P |
| Chair jailed for a year on 20:57 - Feb 23 by ted_hendrix |
I'd Imagine Chair will be on the bench tomorrow.
If someone else has already done this awful and poorly thought out joke well fck off.
There Is a chaise longue joke somewhere but I can't think of It. |
don't be such a pouf. |  | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 21:35 - Feb 23 with 3520 views | ShotKneesHoop |
If Ilias objects to the sentence -and it fails, then he could get the Electric Chair.
I'll get my coat, hat stand, grandfather clock, chaise longue, pouf, tall boys, short boys, sofa, so good etc.
I feel sorry for Marti, what has he done to inherit this crock of merde profonde? [Post edited 23 Feb 21:35]
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| Chair jailed for a year on 21:42 - Feb 23 with 3453 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Chair jailed for a year on 21:15 - Feb 23 by robith |
Did the rock do so much damage cos he held onto it for so long? |
Did the lorry driver try to deck Chair? |  |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 21:51 - Feb 23 with 3379 views | colinallcars |
The Belgian police just called me to ask if I could “ go his bail ” so he can play for us tomorrow. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year (n/t) on 21:56 - Feb 23 with 3326 views | lave16 |
| Chair jailed for a year on 21:51 - Feb 23 by colinallcars |
The Belgian police just called me to ask if I could “ go his bail ” so he can play for us tomorrow. |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 21:56 - Feb 23 with 3323 views | LazyFan |
Most rags are saying he's jailed for a year, and then some say he's not. So, I do wonder if they will look stupid tomorrow when they have that headline and he scores. |  |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 22:07 - Feb 23 with 3209 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Chair jailed for a year on 21:56 - Feb 23 by LazyFan |
Most rags are saying he's jailed for a year, and then some say he's not. So, I do wonder if they will look stupid tomorrow when they have that headline and he scores. |
Next question: For QPR or B-Wing? | |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 22:10 - Feb 23 with 3181 views | DannyPaddox |
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| Chair jailed for a year on 22:23 - Feb 23 with 3060 views | SydneyRs |
How come the rock can hit someone with a chair and it's no problem?
One rule for one, one for another. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 22:31 - Feb 23 with 2973 views | GloryHunter |
| Chair jailed for a year on 20:05 - Feb 23 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I really like the idea of sending Richards in place of Chair. The fcking cnt can sit around all day at someone else's expense, he wouldn't feel any different. |
The origin of the term "Whipping Boy". Rich boys actually employed a poor boy to take corporal punishment in their place. Classy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipping_boy |  | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 22:47 - Feb 23 with 2827 views | BerlinR |
Kind of strange subject to be making my first post on but I live in Germany and know a bit about the German legal system and suspect that the Belgian system is more like the German one than the British system.
In Germany, when a trial takes place, the prosecutor submits the prosecution file to the court and the defence lawyer submits a defence file. The judges go through both files and decides what witnesses to call and question to clear up any contradictions/arguments between the two cases.
The defendant does not enter any plea - the system works on the presumption that the defendant is innocent until proven otherwise so the defendant does not have to say they are not guilty. If the defendant admits the offence, this admission is simply treated as evidence of guilt in the trial.
While the prosecutor and defence lawyer can also ask questions of the witnesses (and in serious cases the victim may also be represented by a lawyer who can also ask questions) most of the questioning is done by the judges. Once all the witnesses have been heard, the various lawyers can sum up their arguments and push any legal points they think are relevant. The judges then withdraw to consider both the prosecution and defence cases and reach a verdict.
In cases where the judges find the defendant guilty, the chief judge reads out a statement of what the sentence is and giving reasons for the findings. However, whilst the guilty verdict is recorded immediately, the sentence is then automatically referred to a second court for review and ratification and it is not immediately activated as it would be in a British court.
If the defendant (now convict) lodges an appeal, the appeal and review of sentence are effectively dealt with simultaneously by the same court. If the sentence of the first court is prison and this is ratified by the second court, that is when the sentence becomes active. The convict can be held on remand between the first court imposing the sentence and the second court reviewing it, but often, the first court will release the defendant pending the review/appeal in the second court. It would not surprise me in the least if the situation in Belgium is very similar.
If so, that would mean that Chair has been found guilty and given an initial sentence of 2 years in prison (with the second year suspended) but that he is currently free while the sentence goes through the review process and any appeal he submits is dealt with.
If the situation is the same/similar to that in Germany, the second court could reduce the sentence (if it upholds the guilty verdict) but could also impose a harsher sentence.
Hope this helps. | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 23:01 - Feb 23 with 2726 views | ChrisNW6 |
| Chair jailed for a year on 20:34 - Feb 23 by FredManRave |
Apparently he was asked for his take on the current situation earlier on today and Chair reclined to comment... |
Sofa so good then | | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 23:07 - Feb 23 with 2667 views | Northernr |
| Chair jailed for a year on 22:47 - Feb 23 by BerlinR |
Kind of strange subject to be making my first post on but I live in Germany and know a bit about the German legal system and suspect that the Belgian system is more like the German one than the British system.
In Germany, when a trial takes place, the prosecutor submits the prosecution file to the court and the defence lawyer submits a defence file. The judges go through both files and decides what witnesses to call and question to clear up any contradictions/arguments between the two cases.
The defendant does not enter any plea - the system works on the presumption that the defendant is innocent until proven otherwise so the defendant does not have to say they are not guilty. If the defendant admits the offence, this admission is simply treated as evidence of guilt in the trial.
While the prosecutor and defence lawyer can also ask questions of the witnesses (and in serious cases the victim may also be represented by a lawyer who can also ask questions) most of the questioning is done by the judges. Once all the witnesses have been heard, the various lawyers can sum up their arguments and push any legal points they think are relevant. The judges then withdraw to consider both the prosecution and defence cases and reach a verdict.
In cases where the judges find the defendant guilty, the chief judge reads out a statement of what the sentence is and giving reasons for the findings. However, whilst the guilty verdict is recorded immediately, the sentence is then automatically referred to a second court for review and ratification and it is not immediately activated as it would be in a British court.
If the defendant (now convict) lodges an appeal, the appeal and review of sentence are effectively dealt with simultaneously by the same court. If the sentence of the first court is prison and this is ratified by the second court, that is when the sentence becomes active. The convict can be held on remand between the first court imposing the sentence and the second court reviewing it, but often, the first court will release the defendant pending the review/appeal in the second court. It would not surprise me in the least if the situation in Belgium is very similar.
If so, that would mean that Chair has been found guilty and given an initial sentence of 2 years in prison (with the second year suspended) but that he is currently free while the sentence goes through the review process and any appeal he submits is dealt with.
If the situation is the same/similar to that in Germany, the second court could reduce the sentence (if it upholds the guilty verdict) but could also impose a harsher sentence.
Hope this helps. |
Fck me, a grown up enters the chat. |  | | |
| Chair jailed for a year on 23:08 - Feb 23 with 2662 views | Boston |
| Chair jailed for a year on 20:59 - Feb 23 by MrSheen |
I’m struggling with the fundamentals of bikini-clap. I certainly wouldn’t have expected it at this time of year.
Have we had an explanation of what a professional footballer was doing on a canoeing holiday yet? [Post edited 23 Feb 21:01]
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Lost in translation methinks...canoodling. | |
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