| Norwich City 1 Swansea City 0 : Matchday Thread and reaction 18:36 - Nov 4 with 12844 views | NotLoyal |
Saturday 7th November 2020
Kick Off 3pm
Carrow Road, Norwich
AKA : Electric Avenue
Matchday Referee
DARREN ENGLAND
Assistant Referees
Peter Kirkup Steven Meredith
Fourth Official : Gavin Ward
Here we see some intense almost military style training in the ‘how to hold a flag’ course at the FA. Some of these referees haven’t slept for three days, they’ve been deprived of food and water but still after all that they raise a smile. Thank you for your service. Ant Middleton was unavailable for comment but raised an eyebrow when we questioned such severe training methodology. He would only whisper ‘Don't mess with these guys, they are lethal, you never know when they will strike’
Darren John Herbert England : What do we know ?
Darren has four names, so he can choose which one he wants on any given day. Sometimes he calls himself Herbert and wears a smoking jacket whilst drinking port from a fine crystal glass. On other days he calls himself John. When he’s John he dances round his small bed sit in Cleethorpes to the song ‘ Hello John got a new Motor’ and imagines himself working in Arthur Daley’s car lot. When he is Darren he puts a wig on and talks in a Welsh dialect complaining about the smell in Port Talbot and the cost of oil for squeaky wheels. Mr England is an all round good bloke who has refereed more than 5 matches in his career but far less than a thousand. Some of them in the premier league. His favourite food is Kurdish soup, nobody knows why or even if that’s true. He is never far away from controversy and has regularly been criticised by many managers this season and last. He loves a strange decision. However we have had him under surveillance for the last three days and he has done nothing irregular at all except go shopping with his mum in Waitrose. The thing going in his favour is in all the games (3) he has refereed involving the swans, none have been lost.
What do we know about Norwich ?
I’ve been to Norwich, it was raining, I went a second time and it was still raining, those visits were four years apart but I was confidently told it had not stopped raining at all. The Normans and English fought battles in Norwich. That was pre Middle Ages and for so many people to get together and have a fight who are all called Norman was a feat in itself. Remember this was before social media, all inclusive holidays and McDonald’s. The Normans did really well against the English all of whom were related in some way to the Matchday referee. We love history here at Swansea Independent.
Here is a Norman, this is a flying Norman and most certainly one of the prime reasons the Normans are today revered in small villages south of Norwich.
This is another Norman, he is famous for being stupid, but don’t be fooled, he is believed to have led the charge of the Normans at one of the most famous Norwich battles, ‘The Normans having a charge’ Many Swans fans live or come from Norwich. Norwich Jack is one, Norwich Jack 2 is also rumoured to live there.
Electric Avenue
The owner of Norwich City is Eddy Grant, he once applied for some financial help to buy a guitar hence his surname. Eddie is famous for his home cooking and for standing on the pitch absolutely smashed off his face on red wine shouting ‘Electric Avenue’ dressed as a ridiculously attractive woman, but you would never admit it. Nobody could work out why he did this, the sales of the only song he ever wrote were very good and this type of advertising was frowned upon by many football fans and his mum. Eddy has never commented on why he did it other than to say, I don’t remember doing that. Course not Eddy, it was the four bottles of Malbec you necked before kick off.
The only other fact we can find on Norwich is that their accent is belittled by other areas of the country, we will make no comment on this as it’s a bit like turkeys voting for Christmas.
Swans v Norwich head to head
Fifty six games played to date.
Both sides have won 23 with 10 being drawn.
Before being promoted to the premier league swans fans will recall a disastrous home game in which Norwich won 4-1 back in November 2018. Apart from that records show things are pretty equal but Norwich away is a pretty difficult trip and even now swans fans would accept a draw.
In History
Norwich City 2 Swansea City 3
Saturday 15th November 2008
Swansea recovered from an early Arturo Lupoli goal to stun struggling Norwich.
Mark Fotheringham set Lupoli up for a low 12-yard shot, before sweet build-up from Jordi Gomez and Angel Rangel saw Jason Scotland equalise from close in. Two quick goals after the break sealed Norwich's fate, Darren Pratley firmly heading in Gomez's corner. Gomez assisted again to set Ferrie Bodde up from six yards, before Mark Fotheringham made the consolation, his shot deflecting in off Angel Rangel.
Swansea manager Roberto Martinez
"In football everyone must have a dream and ours is to play in the Premier League. But it could take us five years or even 10 years to achieve. Expectation levels are always very high in south Wales, but at the moment all we are trying to do is to consolidate at this level. Obviously I am very happy with the number of points we have won so far but our aim this season is to stay in this division. There are six or seven players here who have the ability to play in the Premier League, but at the moment we have still got to prove that we can compete week in, week out at this level. It was a big thing for us to come to a place like Norwich and get a result like this. This is the first time we have come to a Premier League environment and been ourselves, played the way we can and picked up the three points we deserved. It's a big step forward for us, a big moment."
Bodde and Scotland celebrate
Norwich: Marshall, Otsemobor, Kennedy, Doherty, Bertrand, Bell, Clingan, Fotheringham (Hoolahan 62), Pattison, Lupoli (Cureton 66), Lita.
Subs Not Used: Nelson, Drury, Omozusi.
Goals: Lupoli 28, Rangel 61 og.
Swansea: Konstantopoulos, Rangel, Williams, Monk, Bessone, Gomez, Britton, Bodde, Pratley, Gower (Pintado 78), Scotland (Brandy 90).
Subs Not Used: Krysiak, Tate, Bauza.
Booked: Bodde.
Goals: Scotland 43, Pratley 47, Bodde 48.
Att: 24,262
Ref: Grant Hegley (Hertfordshire).
What the opposition think ?
Swansea City have enjoyed a great start to the new campaign and look to be one of the early favourites for promotion to the Premier League this season.
Prior to the Swans' Tuesday night game with Brentford, and Norwich’s fixture with Millwall, we spoke to Wales Online football reporter Ian Mitchelmore, who covers Steve Cooper's side, to talk about their chances this season and what he expects when they travel to Carrow Road. canaries.co.uk: Swansea City have enjoyed a very positive start to the season, losing just one of their opening nine games. Is there an expectation that the club can challenge for the top two places this season having finished last campaign in the play-offs?
All in all, it's been a hugely encouraging start, and after reaching the play-offs last time around, the Swans definitely feel they can mount another promotion challenge this season. Players like Matt Grimes, Connor Roberts, Freddie Woodman, Ben Cabango and Marc Guehi have far more Championship experience now and are much better for it. As for a top two spot, that will be incredibly difficult, particularly with the likes of Norwich City, Brentford and Bournemouth in the division. But Swansea’s squad is a balanced one now while Steve Cooper fully understands what it takes to deliver the goods in the second tier after an impressive debut campaign in senior management last time out.
Cooper quotes
“We know it will be a really tough test, they were in the Premier League last season and had a strong Championship campaign the year before,” he said.
“A lot of that structure and the coach are still in place, so a lot of that identity remains and they are a team that commit to that.
“So it will be a tough game, but I think it comes at a good time for us and we are really looking forward to going there and committing to the game.
“We will be ready for it, as these are the games you have got to look forward to.
“We don’t fear anybody. We embrace the challenges in front of us, even at the end of this really busy period.
“We are really looking forward to it. We will be looking to attack it with everything we have got, because that is always our idea.”
TEAM NEWS
Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Kyle Naughton, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi; Connor Roberts, Korey Smith, Jay Fulton, Jake Bidwell; Kasey Palmer; Andre Ayew, Jamal Lowe.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ryan Manning, Matt Grimes, Viktor Gyokeres, Wayne Routledge, Yan Dhanda, Joel Latibeaudiere.
Referee: Darren England
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 06:26 - Nov 5 with 5443 views | Brynmill_Jack |
The ref seems biased already! |  |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 07:56 - Nov 5 with 5424 views | sP7qupUf |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 06:26 - Nov 5 by Brynmill_Jack |
The ref seems biased already! |
I think that he has been ok in the games that we have had him. Not sure mind...with a name like England. |  | | |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 09:22 - Nov 5 with 5390 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 07:56 - Nov 5 by sP7qupUf |
I think that he has been ok in the games that we have had him. Not sure mind...with a name like England. |
He was cente half for Wales when he played for spurs. | |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 09:34 - Nov 5 with 5386 views | Whiterockin |
Going to be a really hard game for us I will be more than happy with a point, anything more and we will be serious promotion contenders. |  | | |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 09:44 - Nov 5 with 5372 views | Fireboy2 |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 09:34 - Nov 5 by Whiterockin |
Going to be a really hard game for us I will be more than happy with a point, anything more and we will be serious promotion contenders. |
Even with a point we are serious candidates, plus it will obviously stop them getting ahead of us.
Draw away games against sides near us and win the games against teams below us, we wont be far off come the end of the season. |  | | |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 12:59 - Nov 5 with 5277 views | swancity |
Plus a little known fact about Norwich City and their recruitment policy:
They’re players always look a bit jaundiced and many think that’s related to their yellow shirts. In fact all of the new players undergo the Colman’s Challenge which is to eat a beef sandwich filled with a jar of English mustard, only if they are hard enough to do that are they able to sign a contract 👠| |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 14:49 - Nov 5 with 5233 views | onehunglow |
It's a nice city,pretty prosperous and have great owners of their club.
Fantastic loyal fan base who come from miles around to watch the team .
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 17:27 - Nov 6 with 4782 views | TenbySwan |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 09:22 - Nov 5 by felixstowe_jack |
He was cente half for Wales when he played for spurs. |
Mr England was captain of Wales when we beat England 4-1 in the 70s . |  | | |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 10:12 - Nov 7 with 4529 views | ABERSWAN |
Norwich were excellent last week against Bristol city. Looked like their relegation hangover was over and more like the team who gained promotion 2 seasons ago. Buendia is a special player, did well to keep him there, and pukki is back among the goals, and should have had more than his two goals. But, the mad championship in midweek, had them at home to Millwall, and it ended 0-0. | | | |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 10:57 - Nov 7 with 4494 views | KeithHaynes |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 17:27 - Nov 6 by TenbySwan |
Mr England was captain of Wales when we beat England 4-1 in the 70s . |
I recall the game at Wrexham when he was manager, and Leighton scoring at Wembley. However, the passage of time 
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 11:14 - Nov 7 with 4482 views | KeithHaynes |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 11:45 - Nov 7 with 4460 views | Catullus |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 09:22 - Nov 5 by felixstowe_jack |
He was cente half for Wales when he played for spurs. |
Mike England that was, Darren was born in 1985. | |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 11:49 - Nov 7 with 4458 views | AndyCole |
Another huge test for Coops and our dynamic squad. Norwich are playing more like the Norwich that got promoted, so a decent barometer to gauge our remarkable progress.
We have a solid spine and with a fired up Ayew wreaking havoc up top we have every chance. Hoping Palmer gets the nod over Dhanda who's done well fair play (and another who's blossomed under Cooper this term).
Nobody likes Thomas Frank, but his comments about our front line were spot on and significant recognition of our clever tactics (front 3, driving dynamic midfielders) - food for thought for some of our fans who are crying out for us to spend big on a "striker".
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 11:58 - Nov 7 with 4450 views | Nortbankboy |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 11:49 - Nov 7 by AndyCole |
Another huge test for Coops and our dynamic squad. Norwich are playing more like the Norwich that got promoted, so a decent barometer to gauge our remarkable progress.
We have a solid spine and with a fired up Ayew wreaking havoc up top we have every chance. Hoping Palmer gets the nod over Dhanda who's done well fair play (and another who's blossomed under Cooper this term).
Nobody likes Thomas Frank, but his comments about our front line were spot on and significant recognition of our clever tactics (front 3, driving dynamic midfielders) - food for thought for some of our fans who are crying out for us to spend big on a "striker".
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We are doing well at the moment with everyone behind
The manager and the club.
A much nicer atmosphere around the club.
Long may it continue | | | |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 13:06 - Nov 7 with 4424 views | NotLoyal |
Norwich City in a bit of a spot
Norwich manager Manager quote
injuries!
Cantwell, Placheta, Rupp, Gibson, Sorensen and Stiepermann, all have issues and haven’t trained. DF says that Sorensen and Gibson haven’t played much and now their bodies are struggling due to too many games……..I am glad we have these types of players, whose bodies get worse the more they play instead of getting fitter!
Xavi Quintilla’s injury issue continues and he will not play against Swansea, Sorensen is also looking like he might be out. | |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 13:13 - Nov 7 with 4415 views | Badlands |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 11:58 - Nov 7 by Nortbankboy |
We are doing well at the moment with everyone behind
The manager and the club.
A much nicer atmosphere around the club.
Long may it continue |
How can you possibly know there's a nicer atmosphere around he club?
Not very one us bashing Cooper. |  |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 13:47 - Nov 7 with 4381 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 13:13 - Nov 7 by Badlands |
How can you possibly know there's a nicer atmosphere around he club?
Not very one us bashing Cooper. |
Reading are 2 down. Swansea will go top with a win. |  |
| Wise sage since Toshack era |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 13:49 - Nov 7 with 4376 views | NotLoyal |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 13:47 - Nov 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Reading are 2 down. Swansea will go top with a win. |
I was just going to ask that, incentive to do so is big going in to an international break. We actually have the best goal difference in the league now too. [Post edited 7 Nov 2020 13:53]
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 13:56 - Nov 7 with 4358 views | swancity |
Good luck to our lads today
No pressure, win lose or draw we’ve done very well to be in contention at this very early stage.
Playing certain teams away with no fans there, Norwich being one of them is a big help | |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 14:00 - Nov 7 with 4344 views | NotLoyal |
Swansea City: Freddie Woodman; Kyle Naughton, Ryan Bennett, Marc Guehi; Connor Roberts, Korey Smith, Jay Fulton, Jake Bidwell; Kasey Palmer; Andre Ayew, Jamal Lowe.
Substitutes: Steven Benda, Ryan Manning, Matt Grimes, Viktor Gyokeres, Wayne Routledge, Yan Dhanda, Joel Latibeaudiere.
Referee: Darren England | |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread on 14:01 - Nov 7 with 4339 views | TenbySwan |
Watching Stoke winning at Reading and wonder how far Joe Allen is from a comeback? | | | |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS on 14:09 - Nov 7 with 4299 views | KeithHaynes |
Decent side out today, if Palmer continues his midfield aggressive role this could work well.
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS Cabango out on 15:00 - Nov 7 with 4116 views | NotLoyal |
Lovely tribute pre match. | |
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| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS Cabango out on 15:06 - Nov 7 with 4092 views | sP7qupUf |
Lucky not to be one down there. very good block by Roberts. | | | |
| Norwich City v Swansea City : Matchday Thread TEAM NEWS Cabango out on 15:08 - Nov 7 with 4076 views | Badlands |
tbf they are looking a class above anyone we've played so far. | |
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