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An Australian professor of Data Analytics from Griffith University who predicted Trump’s first win, the Australian Federal Election(when all the polls said the opposite) and Brexit has called it - Trump will be re-elected for another 4 years. You heard it here first.
I’ll have to read it again but my interpretation is the faithless electors angle is the main route left for Trump and it’s been debunked elsewhere. I thought the article was interesting in parts but long on rhetoric and short on facts to justify its premise.
Honestly don’t think it’s a serious concern, particularly given the margin of Biden’s victory across a number of states.
I'm not sure that the margin of victory matters, if you can get people to believe 1 dead person voted, it won't be hard to get them to believe that 50k dead people voted. Where's the cut-off for what's plausible in something that's entirely made up and without evidence?
I'm not sure that the margin of victory matters, if you can get people to believe 1 dead person voted, it won't be hard to get them to believe that 50k dead people voted. Where's the cut-off for what's plausible in something that's entirely made up and without evidence?
Not doubting that his supporters will believe the claims. But I can’t see the courts ruling in his favour without real evidence of voter fraud on a scale big enough to overturn the election results in at least a few states. This seems unlikely as courts require concrete evidence as opposed to the hearsay and misinformation Trump’s spreading online.
I still think this is more about Trump’s ego and disputing the result will allow him to walk away without conceding with his reputation intact amongst his supporters for another run in 2024 and / or some kind of Trump tv channel or show.
The internet / social media is too advanced for large sections of society. It’s too easy to manipulate people with misinformation and it’s going to result in major conflicts.
Currently stripping out the top level of execs from defence
"There's no non-disturbing explanation for removing the entire Pentagon civilian leadership and replacing them with a bunch of Trump acolytes during a lame duck presidency."
To answer a previous question, I think continuing with court cases that are bound to fail are a smoke screen to his base to say "look! Loads of court cases! no smoke without fire!" and the fake social media push loads of info about fraudulent voting to back it up.
So was this Russia's plan all along? To turn the USA into a dictatorship? China, Russia and USA are the three most powerful countries in the world and if Trump isn't stopped, they will be run by dictators....and we were worried about Covid!
What's also worrying is that if it wasn't for Covid, Trump would have won easily. There is something rotten at the core of the USA and if his plans fail now, he'll be back in 2024 to right the wrongs of the "Biden crime family" and no legal means will be able to stop him.
I think I had about 24 hours of thinking "Thank fck for that!" when Biden was called but heaven knows I'm miserable now...where's my daffodil.
Trump has a mountain of debt. Will he be able to afford to run again in 2024 as I'm sure the debtors will be after him once he's out of office. Even if one of his offspring runs, it'll be obvious they'll just be puppets with him pulling the strings.
"Overheard someone saying they messed up with the dates of the ballot".
Sounds like a deliberate act of vote tampering to me, all the best conspiracies are discussed in open with people around to overhear and run to the media.
Let's hope the only reason the GOP are behind Trump is their need to win the runoffs in Georgia but as they aren't until Jan' 5th, a lot can happen between now and then.
"There's no non-disturbing explanation for removing the entire Pentagon civilian leadership and replacing them with a bunch of Trump acolytes during a lame duck presidency."
To answer a previous question, I think continuing with court cases that are bound to fail are a smoke screen to his base to say "look! Loads of court cases! no smoke without fire!" and the fake social media push loads of info about fraudulent voting to back it up.
So was this Russia's plan all along? To turn the USA into a dictatorship? China, Russia and USA are the three most powerful countries in the world and if Trump isn't stopped, they will be run by dictators....and we were worried about Covid!
What's also worrying is that if it wasn't for Covid, Trump would have won easily. There is something rotten at the core of the USA and if his plans fail now, he'll be back in 2024 to right the wrongs of the "Biden crime family" and no legal means will be able to stop him.
I think I had about 24 hours of thinking "Thank fck for that!" when Biden was called but heaven knows I'm miserable now...where's my daffodil.
Lol I’ll have what you’re having. Seems like a whole lot of doom and gloom for nothing. Trump will be exiting stage left soon enough. He’s just being a baby rattling some sabers. Yawn. I get a real sense of fatigue occurring over here amongst his “loyal” supporters. I know many who voted for him, including myself would much rather him just leave with class and dignity, but that was never going to happen regardless.
I believe your already starting to see his inner circle starting to crumble. Not comparing the two guys at all, but I just can’t quit imagining trump all burrowed into the situation room like in those hitler reacts videos that were all the rage 5-10 years ago on YouTube.
Happy Veterans Day to all who have served in the past and currently serve. I am very thankful for the blanket of freedom in which they provide.
Let's hope the only reason the GOP are behind Trump is their need to win the runoffs in Georgia but as they aren't until Jan' 5th, a lot can happen between now and then.
Not exactly a foolproof strategy given the GOP did better than expected in the senate/house which suggests that many republicans voted Biden/independent/anti Trump and GOP down ballot.
It’s a delicate balance for the GOP as they don’t want to lose Trump supporters so have to be seen to let him exhaust legal challenges. Once that’s done and dusted let’s see if their stance changes.
Interesting to see CincyHoop’s post which I suspect reflects the mood of most Republicans voters (aside from the hardcore Trump fanatics). Does the average republican really have the appetite for a Trump dictatorship and potential conflict/civil war over a dubiously contested election result?
No offence CincyHoop but your opening words were "I'm not qualified or educated, (enough) or passionate enough about this stuff to really give my opinion. but now you are giving it the big Yawn and Lol's.
I'm an outside observer so I haven't been influenced by the sort of things that influence you, such as family, locals and whatever media you are comfortable with. To those outside of the US bubble, what has been happening for the last 4 years has been nothing short of astonishing but it's probably harder to see when it's closer to home. There are many video running down Trump's 100 worst moments/scandals but you will not have seen them because it's all fake news and that's how he keeps his base blind to what he's been doing.
I hope you are right and that his support will dwindle away until he's the only one left banging the Fraud drum but his actions of the last couple of days suggest he's doubling down and pushing ahead to steal the election. Trump said himself in 2016 that he would accept the result of the election...if he won so how anyone is surprised he hasn't accepted it is really the shocker here.
Coffee, white with half a spoon of sugar. Not sure it's helping though.
Not exactly a foolproof strategy given the GOP did better than expected in the senate/house which suggests that many republicans voted Biden/independent/anti Trump and GOP down ballot.
It’s a delicate balance for the GOP as they don’t want to lose Trump supporters so have to be seen to let him exhaust legal challenges. Once that’s done and dusted let’s see if their stance changes.
Interesting to see CincyHoop’s post which I suspect reflects the mood of most Republicans voters (aside from the hardcore Trump fanatics). Does the average republican really have the appetite for a Trump dictatorship and potential conflict/civil war over a dubiously contested election result?
Someone mentioned earlier that 70% of Republican voters think there's something dodgy with the vote. With that kind of backing Trump is empowered to push on but the odd thing is, some of the rally going Trump supporters were screaming at the camera for everyone to vote Trump to save democracy because Biden wanted to turn the country into Socialist republic...oh the irony.
No offence CincyHoop but your opening words were "I'm not qualified or educated, (enough) or passionate enough about this stuff to really give my opinion. but now you are giving it the big Yawn and Lol's.
I'm an outside observer so I haven't been influenced by the sort of things that influence you, such as family, locals and whatever media you are comfortable with. To those outside of the US bubble, what has been happening for the last 4 years has been nothing short of astonishing but it's probably harder to see when it's closer to home. There are many video running down Trump's 100 worst moments/scandals but you will not have seen them because it's all fake news and that's how he keeps his base blind to what he's been doing.
I hope you are right and that his support will dwindle away until he's the only one left banging the Fraud drum but his actions of the last couple of days suggest he's doubling down and pushing ahead to steal the election. Trump said himself in 2016 that he would accept the result of the election...if he won so how anyone is surprised he hasn't accepted it is really the shocker here.
Coffee, white with half a spoon of sugar. Not sure it's helping though.
Fair play! I can’t argue with anything you said and I still stand behind those claims of not being educated enough. I wasn’t taking a swipe at you at all, just seemed a bit Draconian from my viewpoint. There are some of my friends who were still banging the trump drum last week. Im not sure what happened, but they were singing a different tune on Monday. Still a few holdouts, but the tide is changing, thankfully.
But all is fair, and I appreciate your response!
I’m about to head off to grab a coffee myself, large black, no sugar or cream.
Someone mentioned earlier that 70% of Republican voters think there's something dodgy with the vote. With that kind of backing Trump is empowered to push on but the odd thing is, some of the rally going Trump supporters were screaming at the camera for everyone to vote Trump to save democracy because Biden wanted to turn the country into Socialist republic...oh the irony.
Big difference between thinking the election was dodgy (immediately after the event when your preferred candidate has lost and emotions are running high) and backing an attempted coup by Trump.
I’m sure Trump will push on as every dime he collects towards his ‘legal challenges’ can also be used to cover the cost of his election campaign according to the small print. Win-win for Donald!
I don’t buy the idea that the GOP will burn everything down and support him when push comes to shove and he’s lost his legal challenges. They’ve already got their tax cuts and 3 Supreme Court court nominees. Their focus will be maintaining control of the senate (trying to push through a coup at the same time is unlikely to be a good look!).
I might be wrong but I think it’ll be a very different picture in a few weeks time once the legal challenges have been settled.
Think it’s partly the beginning of their 2024 campaign. Keep up this “we woz robbed” narrative and the gun-toting inbreds will turn out in even greater numbers next time if that’s possible.
Freedom of speech is very big here. At some point though people are going to realize that while you have always been free to say what you want, to who you want, that needs to change in the age of the internet.
Historically there were consequences. For example you were indeed free to go up to the biggest most prideful bloke you could find, call him a cnt and say that you were tell everyone he knows that he's secretly a cross dresser and were going to burn his house down. You wouldn't actually do that though because of the consequences, namely your short hospital visit. But now, there's no consequences.
Point being, the internet would be a better place if it was properly censored. But nobody is qualified to decide how to do that and no two people would agree on what the cut off would be
Could this character's retraction have anything to do with the 25000 to 1000000 dollars offered by a Frump supporter from Texas' search for proof of wrongdoing? just wondering!
Freedom of speech is very big here. At some point though people are going to realize that while you have always been free to say what you want, to who you want, that needs to change in the age of the internet.
Historically there were consequences. For example you were indeed free to go up to the biggest most prideful bloke you could find, call him a cnt and say that you were tell everyone he knows that he's secretly a cross dresser and were going to burn his house down. You wouldn't actually do that though because of the consequences, namely your short hospital visit. But now, there's no consequences.
Point being, the internet would be a better place if it was properly censored. But nobody is qualified to decide how to do that and no two people would agree on what the cut off would be
My wife likes to say "Freedom of speech gives you the ability to say what you want, but it does not protect you from the consequences of what you say"
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