| Times Rumor 16:50 - Feb 23 with 39286 views | itsbiga |
Mate of mine is a sports correspondent at The Times. Strong rumor going round there today that Harry is toast in the morning.
He said "Should be in tomorrow's paper I think"
Sure its total rumor but thought I'd share it for some drama. [Post edited 23 Feb 2014 16:56]
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| Times Rumor on 11:46 - Feb 24 with 2321 views | daveB |
| Times Rumor on 11:25 - Feb 24 by 08olesen |
I dont see whats wrong with him. He fits exactly what we are after doesnt he.
Young
Promotes Youth
Plays nice football
Good young Signings - Bony, Pozzuelo, Chico, Shelvy |
Swansea players almost went on strike last year over problems in training, he's a very hands off coach and I think the one thing we need is a manager who wants to get his hands dirty and build a football club. He's fine if all we want is a big name coach who has a decent short term impact. The stories coming out of Swansea recently don't paint him in a good light |  | | |
| Times Rumor on 11:54 - Feb 24 with 2269 views | 08olesen |
| Times Rumor on 11:26 - Feb 24 by simmo |
I wouldn't want Laudrup. Track record of great initial impact followed by very poor second season. I would want someone that looks at all elements of the club from the foundations up. Mackay would be perfect IMO, Cardiff should never have let him go. |
What has malky done, he got a team up with a wealth of resources. What evidence do you have that he restructured the club, its all media talk because he was sacked by old Vinnie Tan and people feel sorry for him. Did he actually do a great job, or did he just achieve what they should have achieved with any manager.
Laudrup may well not be the answer (although i think he is), but its not Malky because he has had lots of money and did average. Personally i think we should go aborad and look at Tuchel or another young manager who can bring in young tallent from abroad while we get our training ground sorted. |  |
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| Times Rumor on 11:56 - Feb 24 with 2255 views | 08olesen |
Sky says Laudrup 'rumored' to be at HQ. | |
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| Times Rumor on 11:57 - Feb 24 with 2250 views | adhoc_qpr |
Actually thinking about it in the short term - would any of these managers (Clarke, Laudrup, Mackay, Di Matteo) do a worse job than Redknapp and his cronies?
I doubt it!
New manager bounce (which we never seem to get) and the players having to pull their fingers out would probably be enough to secure a playoff berth.
If we lose to Leeds i think that might be incentive enough for TF to pull the trigger. | | | |
| Times Rumor on 11:59 - Feb 24 with 2235 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Times Rumor on 11:56 - Feb 24 by 08olesen |
Sky says Laudrup 'rumored' to be at HQ. |
Can't see them bringing him through the Odemwingie door while Redknap is still in-situ.
I'm doubting Sky and the rumourmongers, 08olesen, not you obviously. |  |
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| Times Rumor on 12:00 - Feb 24 with 2224 views | kropotkin41 |
| Times Rumor on 11:57 - Feb 24 by adhoc_qpr |
Actually thinking about it in the short term - would any of these managers (Clarke, Laudrup, Mackay, Di Matteo) do a worse job than Redknapp and his cronies?
I doubt it!
New manager bounce (which we never seem to get) and the players having to pull their fingers out would probably be enough to secure a playoff berth.
If we lose to Leeds i think that might be incentive enough for TF to pull the trigger. |
Anyone coming in who's prepared to look at our last three seasons and the state of the squad and who, on top of that is prepared to say to TF that we need to think about the team in the same way we appear to be thinking about the stadium, that is to say for the long term, would be better than HR. |  |
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| Times Rumor on 12:03 - Feb 24 with 2202 views | Gloucs_R |
| Times Rumor on 11:56 - Feb 24 by 08olesen |
Sky says Laudrup 'rumored' to be at HQ. |
Laudrup has been at LR, I have this confirmed
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| Times Rumor on 12:10 - Feb 24 with 2149 views | simmo |
| Times Rumor on 11:54 - Feb 24 by 08olesen |
What has malky done, he got a team up with a wealth of resources. What evidence do you have that he restructured the club, its all media talk because he was sacked by old Vinnie Tan and people feel sorry for him. Did he actually do a great job, or did he just achieve what they should have achieved with any manager.
Laudrup may well not be the answer (although i think he is), but its not Malky because he has had lots of money and did average. Personally i think we should go aborad and look at Tuchel or another young manager who can bring in young tallent from abroad while we get our training ground sorted. |
I like his style. It is nothing to do with how he was sacked, I wanted him while he was still there. That Cardiff team had a good mix and nearly all of his signings were made through scouting. He also won that league with them during the backdrop of crazy management, kit changes and protests about the clubs identity. They have spent money here and there but generally only on younger players with sell on value (Medel, Caulker, etc). It also shows what a decent job he was doing as they have collapsed entirely since he went.
I don't actually think there are many stand out options available to us but somebody like Mackay did a good job at a struggling Watford before taking on a Cardiff club that changed its owners, the colour of their kit and a move to a new stadium all within a few years and brought them up as champions. That is a lot of factors to deal with all at once.
I also wanted Poyet but then there was the nasty exit from Brighton so you never know really and it's all hypothetical anyway, Redknapp is our manager atm and I thought he was the right appointment at the time. |  |
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| Times Rumor on 12:12 - Feb 24 with 2140 views | thame_hoops |
| Times Rumor on 11:56 - Feb 24 by 08olesen |
Sky says Laudrup 'rumored' to be at HQ. |
really? cant see anything on their web page? |  | | |
| Times Rumor on 12:13 - Feb 24 with 2123 views | daveB |
| Times Rumor on 11:57 - Feb 24 by adhoc_qpr |
Actually thinking about it in the short term - would any of these managers (Clarke, Laudrup, Mackay, Di Matteo) do a worse job than Redknapp and his cronies?
I doubt it!
New manager bounce (which we never seem to get) and the players having to pull their fingers out would probably be enough to secure a playoff berth.
If we lose to Leeds i think that might be incentive enough for TF to pull the trigger. |
If we lose to Leeds he's a goner but i wouldn't put any money on those other managers changing things dramatically. | | | |
| Times Rumor on 12:18 - Feb 24 with 2082 views | paulparker |
im not in the Laudrup in camp, but would it be the end of the world if he did come ?
after all in his first season he won a trophy, qualified for europe, and for me played better football than Brendan Rodgers
also he has an eye for a young player abroad and gets them for peanuts
that was always what we was good at getting young talent in and selling them off
HR cannot stay and shouldnt i was one of those last year saying arry should have time and had many a debate with 1882 over it , i admit i was wrong
all you have to do is look across london and the job pullis has done at Palace to see that HR could and should have done a lot better last season as well,
The bloke is an East End Crook and the sooner he Farks off the better |  |
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| Times Rumor on 12:19 - Feb 24 with 2078 views | 08olesen |
| Times Rumor on 12:12 - Feb 24 by thame_hoops |
really? cant see anything on their web page? |
It was on the Sky Sports Channel | |
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| Times Rumor on 12:30 - Feb 24 with 2023 views | Gloucs_R |
| Times Rumor on 12:18 - Feb 24 by paulparker |
im not in the Laudrup in camp, but would it be the end of the world if he did come ?
after all in his first season he won a trophy, qualified for europe, and for me played better football than Brendan Rodgers
also he has an eye for a young player abroad and gets them for peanuts
that was always what we was good at getting young talent in and selling them off
HR cannot stay and shouldnt i was one of those last year saying arry should have time and had many a debate with 1882 over it , i admit i was wrong
all you have to do is look across london and the job pullis has done at Palace to see that HR could and should have done a lot better last season as well,
The bloke is an East End Crook and the sooner he Farks off the better |
Who would you want and why? | |
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| Times Rumor on 12:42 - Feb 24 with 1934 views | TheBlob |
| Times Rumor on 11:31 - Feb 24 by WatfordR |
In response to:
"You have hated Redknapp from day one."
But, as we have already established, its fine to defend Redknapp all you like, just dont come on here and criticise him.
There's a bit of growing up required all round. |
(note to self....what have we learned about arguing with the anally retentive/self righteous?Just agree with them it'll be a lot quicker,and don't react to the inevitable lame reply.)
Yes dear,whatever you say.
Have you had you fruit and fibre today?
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| Times Rumor on 12:49 - Feb 24 with 1876 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Times Rumor on 12:00 - Feb 24 by kropotkin41 |
Anyone coming in who's prepared to look at our last three seasons and the state of the squad and who, on top of that is prepared to say to TF that we need to think about the team in the same way we appear to be thinking about the stadium, that is to say for the long term, would be better than HR. |
That's what we need, a long term thinker who will examine past mistakes.
But i was just saying in the short term, any change will likely be an improvement because we have become stale and turgid under Redknapp and he doesn't have either the tactical skills or the energy for the final push. | | | |
| Times Rumor on 12:50 - Feb 24 with 1865 views | Antti_Heinola |
| Times Rumor on 12:30 - Feb 24 by Gloucs_R |
Who would you want and why? |
I'd bring back Warnock for the rest of the season, before a move 'upstairs'. Then over the next three/four months have a proper think, in consultation with Warnock, about the next appointment. If Laudrup is in by tomorrow, I think it'll be a big mistake. I still think it's very unlikely, though. |  |
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| Times Rumor on 12:54 - Feb 24 with 1846 views | adhoc_qpr |
| Times Rumor on 12:50 - Feb 24 by Antti_Heinola |
I'd bring back Warnock for the rest of the season, before a move 'upstairs'. Then over the next three/four months have a proper think, in consultation with Warnock, about the next appointment. If Laudrup is in by tomorrow, I think it'll be a big mistake. I still think it's very unlikely, though. |
At least Laudrup would look at signing a different profile of player and take advantage of his knowledge of the European leagues.
Don't think he's the right man, but at least it would be different mistakes he'd make! | | | |
| Times Rumor on 12:54 - Feb 24 with 1841 views | TheBlob |
| Times Rumor on 12:50 - Feb 24 by Antti_Heinola |
I'd bring back Warnock for the rest of the season, before a move 'upstairs'. Then over the next three/four months have a proper think, in consultation with Warnock, about the next appointment. If Laudrup is in by tomorrow, I think it'll be a big mistake. I still think it's very unlikely, though. |
Bang on. | |
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| Times Rumor on 12:57 - Feb 24 with 1809 views | Doughnut |
| Times Rumor on 12:50 - Feb 24 by Antti_Heinola |
I'd bring back Warnock for the rest of the season, before a move 'upstairs'. Then over the next three/four months have a proper think, in consultation with Warnock, about the next appointment. If Laudrup is in by tomorrow, I think it'll be a big mistake. I still think it's very unlikely, though. |
Yes, I'd second Blob's Bang on. Sounds like the first good idea I've heard. |  | | |
| Times Rumor on 13:00 - Feb 24 with 1781 views | daveB |
| Times Rumor on 12:54 - Feb 24 by adhoc_qpr |
At least Laudrup would look at signing a different profile of player and take advantage of his knowledge of the European leagues.
Don't think he's the right man, but at least it would be different mistakes he'd make! |
same mistakes again imo, no homework done on him just go for him as he's free, big name and done well elsewhere. He might do ok he might not but the core problems at the club are going to remain | | | |
| Times Rumor on 13:02 - Feb 24 with 1768 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Times Rumor on 11:56 - Feb 24 by 08olesen |
Sky says Laudrup 'rumored' to be at HQ. |
Prehistoric monster rumoured to be in Loch Ness.
I reckon it could do a job for us. | | | |
| Times Rumor on 13:03 - Feb 24 with 1762 views | 08olesen |
Another concern i have is that we go on about restructuring and learning from mistakes, but lets be honest we have no idea which managers will do that and which wont.
Its not a small job, and most managers would let the CEO deal with the youth academy and stadium. So why are we talking about someone coming in to do that.
And before anyone says it, Beard has done well on the plans for warren farm and the stadium. The only thing we have a go at 'upstairs' is the fact that they have released a lot of money to managers for shit players. But as i will say again, its not their responsibility to sort that out , its the manager. | |
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| Times Rumor on 13:11 - Feb 24 with 2023 views | DANRANGER |
No point changing manager now. We're still 4th and I do recall West Ham having a pretty shocking run and still going up through the play-offs and the rest is history as they say. Harry is making a lot of mistakes, hasn't a clue what his best team/formation is but we may as well support him until the end of the season and if he doesn't make top 6 then he'll be off anyway. Whatever happens we will have to re-build again what with 8 loanees and players out of contract so TF must be planning for this.
Shouldn't have lost against Charlton although very poor but a win against Leeds and we're back on track. 2nd place still up for grabs. |  | | |
| Times Rumor on 13:16 - Feb 24 with 1983 views | WatfordR |
| Times Rumor on 12:50 - Feb 24 by Antti_Heinola |
I'd bring back Warnock for the rest of the season, before a move 'upstairs'. Then over the next three/four months have a proper think, in consultation with Warnock, about the next appointment. If Laudrup is in by tomorrow, I think it'll be a big mistake. I still think it's very unlikely, though. |
Seem to remember Warnock banging on about wanting to bring in Mackay after he retired?
Fine to have a football man "upstairs", but Warnock wouldn't be my idea of the right one. If we go the way of having a hands off manager, leaving first team coaching to his staff, then we need someone who is prepared to oversee all aspects of short, medium and long term development of the football side of the club from youth development upwards. Someone who is able to keep up with the sharp end of changes in training methods and technology.
That is actually a pretty large remit, and to my mind is a job for someone younger than Warnock. |  | | |
| Times Rumor on 13:18 - Feb 24 with 1971 views | daveB |
Cardiff and Hull went into freefall at the end of the season last year and still went up, still plenty of games left to turn this around.
I don't think anyone knows our best team or formation so not surprised Redknapp is struggling with that, the injuries caused a panic and has left us in a bit of a mess. Burnley managed to replace Austin I still don't understand why we couldn't have managed it.
Of all the negatives at the moment I thought Morrison was quite promising on Saturday and will improve us. | | | |
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