| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 15:05 - Mar 18 with 1206 views | wombat |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 14:56 - Mar 18 by essextaxiboy |
You should be a speech writer for a politician .
You have actually said the square root of f*ck all there |
we defo need to bring somebody to work alongside phil beard who has a understanding of how football works and yep gerry the mullett would be the perfect choice for me |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 15:13 - Mar 18 with 1194 views | BasingstokeR |
"I think we've actually been very lucky overall rather than unlucky."
Can you quantify this just a little bit?
Are you referring to the Bolton result on the last day of the season maybe?
Apart from Rob Green getting away with handling outside the box at Norwich this year - I really can't remember much luck going our way really. Lots of things I think are unlucky I can name (although that might be part of the nature of being a football fan) |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 15:17 - Mar 18 with 1183 views | Hunterhoop |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 14:42 - Mar 18 by essextaxiboy |
The fact that he is is in Malaysia isnt a problem . He is the chairman of Air Asia after all.
He has employed Phillip Beard to look after the club day to day , a bloke who has escaped criticism so far. This the guy who was "interviewed" by Hughes the destroyer and has overseen the job done on us by Hughes agent .
He was like a rabbit in the headlights at the fans forum . |
Completely agree.
TF hired someone to run the club on a full time permanent basis. He has other commitments (Air Asia, Caterham, etc) that meant he couldn't run the club.
As with most business's, the Chairman doesn't "run" the company - the MD or CEO does.
Well that is what Phil Beard is.
Yet, I don't see one shred of evidence to suggest he is any good at this. The major strategic decisions around the playing side have been flawed, the ticket pricing strategy has been flawed, the communication strategy (as in having a 2-way interaction with fans and fans groups) has been flawed, simple day-to-day merchandise and catering strategy has been flawed (how can you run out on matchday?? Honestly, it's unacceptable from a business perspective. Small wastage levels are good - they show you must be maximising sales).
Frankly almost all areas of the club which can be directly or indirectly accredited to Beard as falling within his area of accountability are flawed.
TF, on the other hand, provides the financial backing. He continues to do this and syas he will going forward into next season. Yes, he's responsible for hiring Beard, but it's Beard who's not doing his job. |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 15:19 - Mar 18 with 1184 views | MedwayR |
In my opinion they've identified that the club need an overhaul of it's infrastructure (training ground, new stadium, scouting etc) which is a positive.
The problem is that they employed Hughes (& Rigg) to do the football side of that and they simply shouldn't have been in a position with that much power, most of our problems stem from that one mistake, therefore we need a director of football or similar to work alongside Beard who has the interests of the club at heart & not someone just looking out for their mates. |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 15:28 - Mar 18 with 1165 views | daveB |
thats the problem with a dof, if you get the right man who wants to work for the club in the background it works well. If you get someone who wants a big say in everything, wants his own players signed and his mate in as manager then you have the kid of problems you saw in the 4 year plan film |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 17:14 - Mar 18 with 1093 views | kropotkin41 |
To be fair I think TF has reaffirmed his commitment to QPR time and again. Still, I think that every restatement is welcome.
I think in the grand scheme of things we weren't ready to get promoted when we did - and the mess that has followed has largely been down to that. If relegation gives us the chance to clear up the mess - that is to say, the squad - and put in place the things that TF talks about which have been missing, then I don't think it'll be a bad thing.
Some Reading fan assured me the other night that the final figure for Samba was some extraordinary sum, and we've had all sorts of doom-mongers claiming that we'll fold, but I suspect we'll "slim down" the playing staff with some ease next season, and hopefully come up smelling of roses - with a team that will compete in the Championship very nicely thank you.
I'm with Tony, looking forward to a brighter future after these two seasons from Hell! |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 17:17 - Mar 18 with 1088 views | Northernr |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 17:14 - Mar 18 by kropotkin41 |
To be fair I think TF has reaffirmed his commitment to QPR time and again. Still, I think that every restatement is welcome.
I think in the grand scheme of things we weren't ready to get promoted when we did - and the mess that has followed has largely been down to that. If relegation gives us the chance to clear up the mess - that is to say, the squad - and put in place the things that TF talks about which have been missing, then I don't think it'll be a bad thing.
Some Reading fan assured me the other night that the final figure for Samba was some extraordinary sum, and we've had all sorts of doom-mongers claiming that we'll fold, but I suspect we'll "slim down" the playing staff with some ease next season, and hopefully come up smelling of roses - with a team that will compete in the Championship very nicely thank you.
I'm with Tony, looking forward to a brighter future after these two seasons from Hell! |
I suspect the plan/hope is to do what Newcastle did. Take that financial hit and hope it's just for one season.
Of course Newcastle's initial plan was to offload everybody only to find that nobody wanted to pay Alan Smith, Joey Barton etc what they were paying them. Be interesting to see if the same thing happens to us. |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 17:25 - Mar 18 with 1080 views | daveB |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 17:17 - Mar 18 by Northernr |
I suspect the plan/hope is to do what Newcastle did. Take that financial hit and hope it's just for one season.
Of course Newcastle's initial plan was to offload everybody only to find that nobody wanted to pay Alan Smith, Joey Barton etc what they were paying them. Be interesting to see if the same thing happens to us. |
Newcastle went up almost by accident. My in law is a geordie and spent that whole summer moaning they couldn't get rid of the over paid dross like collocini, Barton, Butt, Smith etc and those players ended up getting them up. They also got very lucky with injuries that season.
What will be key is having a good balance between a good attitude and ability. All very well sticking with the Derrys and co but you need some ability on top of that.
Players like Cisse, Hoilett and Taarabt should rip that league apart but will they want to stay and will they fancy the non stop games and the more physical nature. | | | |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 18:02 - Mar 18 with 1035 views | THEBUSH |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 17:25 - Mar 18 by daveB |
Newcastle went up almost by accident. My in law is a geordie and spent that whole summer moaning they couldn't get rid of the over paid dross like collocini, Barton, Butt, Smith etc and those players ended up getting them up. They also got very lucky with injuries that season.
What will be key is having a good balance between a good attitude and ability. All very well sticking with the Derrys and co but you need some ability on top of that.
Players like Cisse, Hoilett and Taarabt should rip that league apart but will they want to stay and will they fancy the non stop games and the more physical nature. |
A lot of what you say, depends on the manager we have for next season ?
Going to be an interesting summer, as to who stays and goes, which also I suppose, depends on what league we are in ? |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 18:40 - Mar 18 with 1012 views | Westy75 |
Top man. We're bloody lucky to have him. |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 19:10 - Mar 18 with 989 views | ShackletonR |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 17:17 - Mar 18 by Northernr |
I suspect the plan/hope is to do what Newcastle did. Take that financial hit and hope it's just for one season.
Of course Newcastle's initial plan was to offload everybody only to find that nobody wanted to pay Alan Smith, Joey Barton etc what they were paying them. Be interesting to see if the same thing happens to us. |
I think its there only option as there are not many relagation clauses in Hughes mad hatter signings. |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 19:47 - Mar 18 with 957 views | nadera78 |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 14:42 - Mar 18 by essextaxiboy |
The fact that he is is in Malaysia isnt a problem . He is the chairman of Air Asia after all.
He has employed Phillip Beard to look after the club day to day , a bloke who has escaped criticism so far. This the guy who was "interviewed" by Hughes the destroyer and has overseen the job done on us by Hughes agent .
He was like a rabbit in the headlights at the fans forum . |
Hang on a second, Hughes was the only man QPR were interested in. We chased him and chased him and threw the kitchen sink in his direction. You can't blame his appointment on Beard, it was clearly the only option TF was interested in. The last time we actually interviewed for the position was Jim Magilton, and before that.....
When Redknapp leaves in the summer we have to get the next appointment right, and that means opening it up for the world to apply instead of picking a name we recognise and chasing him down like a pack of dogs and then offering him a fortune and millions to spend. If we get it wrong then we'll waste the season, and the money, and put the club in jeopardy. |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 20:31 - Mar 18 with 913 views | Lblock |
Once our fate is confirmed I'd appreciate a "hands up, we made some proper muck ups and we'll learn from them" statement.
There's never any guarantees in this game but hopefully TF and the Malay gang will take away:-
A CEO is needed with proven FOOTBALL grounding
Never ever ever ever EVER be interviewed by a future employee!!
Don't give one clique so much power
You are culpable for ALL levels of this club
If any future appointment looks to go a bit bandy then not panicking is admirable but blind and prolonged faith will bite you on the R's
Get off Twitter!!!
Please decide on a sensible transfer policy - don't recruit reputations, adopt the Fergie approach and sign players only after assessing them inside out (their charecter, their attitude, injury history, their associates etc)
Soundbites are fine but action speaks a thousand words.... That golden shovel going in the ground at Warren Farm as suggested
Immediate priority is deciding who is our Manager for the next two seasons and their plan to get us back up or stable
Please don't leave it till July and don't leave it to Phil Beard |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 23:11 - Mar 18 with 839 views | BAWHoops |
With regards to next season...
We will try and do what Newcastle and West Ham did and spend to come back up.
If we were sensible we would model ourselves on WBA and do it that way... we wont though |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 00:10 - Mar 19 with 821 views | Neil_SI |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 14:56 - Mar 18 by essextaxiboy |
You should be a speech writer for a politician .
You have actually said the square root of f*ck all there |
Hah, not too bad for someone who never finished school eh? 
I couldn't reply in detail as I was actually on my way out to meet with Philip Beard to discuss all of this kind of stuff in person. I'm not sure Beard has escaped the criticism so far myself, but yes, he and the board need to be held accountable and take more responsibility. |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 00:26 - Mar 19 with 799 views | Neil_SI |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 15:13 - Mar 18 by BasingstokeR |
"I think we've actually been very lucky overall rather than unlucky."
Can you quantify this just a little bit?
Are you referring to the Bolton result on the last day of the season maybe?
Apart from Rob Green getting away with handling outside the box at Norwich this year - I really can't remember much luck going our way really. Lots of things I think are unlucky I can name (although that might be part of the nature of being a football fan) |
Yeah I think we were lucky to survive relegation last season and somewhat lucky that we're still, even now, still in with a shout of saving ourselves this season, however unlikely that seems to be.
It's always a risk to change the manager during the course of a season, and we've done it twice in two seasons and already onto our third manager under Tony Fernandes' reign. If you want stability and talk about that, then this surely isn't the right way to go about it, and it's not a lot different to the previous owners approach to hiring and firing in the end.
We were lucky that Harry Redknapp was available at the time we made the change this season too, and lucky that his personal circumstances meant he ended up here rather than somewhere else. Is he the right long term choice for QPR? Probably not. Is he the best short term choice for QPR? Most definitely — at least for what the board want.
But it's also a risk to rebuild the entire squad like we did in the summer under Mark Hughes, which is always a huge risk that can go horribly wrong and that has been the case for us unfortunately.
All of these things together are difficult to get right, which is entirely normal given what's happened and we've left ourselves with lots of opportunity to make excuses.
As for the rest of it, I think there's been some pretty sensible and reasonable responses across this thread that also point to many things that we perhaps haven't done as well, or thought about in enough detail, as we could have done. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 02:33 - Mar 19 with 775 views | rsonist |
I wouldn't be certain of Redknapp jumping ship on relegation just yet. Look at the rest of the sides in the league plus those in contention for promotion and I can't particularly see anyone else that's likely to take him anytime soon - if he leaves it would be effectively retiring to sit on the MOTD sofa. Which he may well prefer to a gruelling Championship campaign at his age.
However if he does still have the management bug then he'll be in a fairly decent position overall. Having not committed to us before, he can look like a big hero for deciding to help out as it were. He can also probably extract further assurances from TF that we'll "have a real good go" at bouncing back up, ie by spending money (or allowing ourselves to keep haemorrhaging it).
Certainly it would be good for us because he's by far the best manager we'd have available in the situation we'd be in. Adkins was my only other thought but reports are that he's accepted the Reading job. |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 04:08 - Mar 19 with 769 views | merovingian |
Here's the problem with administration, everyone is looking too far ahead without sense of urgency. Afraid of losing key players on the next bid, pampered instead of their potential being squeezed supposedly to. Only a handful are true rangers IMHO. |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 08:17 - Mar 19 with 745 views | YorkRanger |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 02:33 - Mar 19 by rsonist |
I wouldn't be certain of Redknapp jumping ship on relegation just yet. Look at the rest of the sides in the league plus those in contention for promotion and I can't particularly see anyone else that's likely to take him anytime soon - if he leaves it would be effectively retiring to sit on the MOTD sofa. Which he may well prefer to a gruelling Championship campaign at his age.
However if he does still have the management bug then he'll be in a fairly decent position overall. Having not committed to us before, he can look like a big hero for deciding to help out as it were. He can also probably extract further assurances from TF that we'll "have a real good go" at bouncing back up, ie by spending money (or allowing ourselves to keep haemorrhaging it).
Certainly it would be good for us because he's by far the best manager we'd have available in the situation we'd be in. Adkins was my only other thought but reports are that he's accepted the Reading job. |
I have been thinking about this too. My view had been that Redknapp would be straight off in the summer but there are no obvious Premiership opportunities for him and I wonder if he sees the chance for one season in the Championship, promotion in a blaze of glory and then back in the Premiership for his swansong.
On the other hand that could be b*llocks and he is off once the curtain is drawn on this season.. |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 09:24 - Mar 19 with 723 views | baz_qpr |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 19:47 - Mar 18 by nadera78 |
Hang on a second, Hughes was the only man QPR were interested in. We chased him and chased him and threw the kitchen sink in his direction. You can't blame his appointment on Beard, it was clearly the only option TF was interested in. The last time we actually interviewed for the position was Jim Magilton, and before that.....
When Redknapp leaves in the summer we have to get the next appointment right, and that means opening it up for the world to apply instead of picking a name we recognise and chasing him down like a pack of dogs and then offering him a fortune and millions to spend. If we get it wrong then we'll waste the season, and the money, and put the club in jeopardy. |
Agree, and on paper Hughes was the best manager available at the time. As was Harry, so if Harry walks (and I suspect he wont if he is reassured re keeping players and transfer market) then you would like to think that the policy of pursuing the best available will continue |  | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 10:25 - Mar 19 with 693 views | isawqpratwcity |
Didn't see SKH's contribution on this thread, Didn't you attribute 60% of our situation to TF? |  |
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 11:04 - Mar 19 with 671 views | nadera78 |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 09:24 - Mar 19 by baz_qpr |
Agree, and on paper Hughes was the best manager available at the time. As was Harry, so if Harry walks (and I suspect he wont if he is reassured re keeping players and transfer market) then you would like to think that the policy of pursuing the best available will continue |
No, I'd like to think that we'd open the job up for applications to see who fancies it. It's a nonsense to simply pick one name that you like and then go all out for him. Shake a few trees, see what falls out. We might get someone we'd never thought off stick his hand up and make a good case for himself.
Or we could just do what we always do. Because that's worked so well for us up to now. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 11:38 - Mar 19 with 644 views | daveB |
last time we did a proper interview process we ended up with Steve Bruce, Coppell, Holloway, PauL Jewell and Steve Perryman falling over themselves for the job and Ollie got it. | | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 12:37 - Mar 19 with 624 views | nadera78 |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 11:38 - Mar 19 by daveB |
last time we did a proper interview process we ended up with Steve Bruce, Coppell, Holloway, PauL Jewell and Steve Perryman falling over themselves for the job and Ollie got it. |
Fine, so you reject out of hand the ones you're not interested in, but you simply don't know who might put their hand up if you never ask. If it fails to produce a name you like then by all means go out and hunt someone down, but you have to at least try. | | | |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 12:49 - Mar 19 with 617 views | essextaxiboy |
| TF restates his commitment to the Long Term on 19:47 - Mar 18 by nadera78 |
Hang on a second, Hughes was the only man QPR were interested in. We chased him and chased him and threw the kitchen sink in his direction. You can't blame his appointment on Beard, it was clearly the only option TF was interested in. The last time we actually interviewed for the position was Jim Magilton, and before that.....
When Redknapp leaves in the summer we have to get the next appointment right, and that means opening it up for the world to apply instead of picking a name we recognise and chasing him down like a pack of dogs and then offering him a fortune and millions to spend. If we get it wrong then we'll waste the season, and the money, and put the club in jeopardy. |
My point is not about who was appointed(there wasnt too many dissenters although he had been out for a while ) but how it was handled, transmitted to the fans and the degree of unquestioned control that Hughes and his flunkeys were given .
The way Barton was allowed to undermine Warnock without being brought into line , the insensitive way the Family Enclosure was handled without consultation .
Stuff that a CEO with football nous should be getting right. |  | | |
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