| Sack McNulty 19:41 - Feb 22 with 4323 views | Clivert |
The football is shit.
We won't make the playoffs, next Saturday makes or breaks our season.
Will McNulty take the game to Altrincham??
He won't.
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| Sack McNulty on 20:35 - Feb 22 with 3575 views | nordenblue |
Alty could really turn us over too if we're not careful, they are very dangerous.... the clock could well be ticking |  | | |
| Sack McNulty on 21:40 - Feb 22 with 3351 views | Sandyman |
If we look at the last three home performances, anyone can turn us over at Spotland / COA - top of table, bottom of table or in a "derby". It is that easy. |  | | |
| Sack McNulty on 21:59 - Feb 22 with 3273 views | dingdangblue |
I had my doubts about McNulty very early in his tenure. Yes he took over in a bad position but there were games in that relegation season where we managed to have zero or 1 attempt on target. In 90 minutes of football that is really shocking. Yes we turn on the odd good performance but these games with hardly any attempts on target are so frequent. Just look at Barnet today, long balls, long throws, chasing down lost causes or putting defenders under pressure. Threats from corners and freekicks. We do none of that and the slow passing football is awful to watch even when we get it right. Sack him now whilst we still have a chance of play offs and a Wembley final before its too late. |  |
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| Sack McNulty on 22:19 - Feb 22 with 3180 views | Clivert |
Considering the level that we are playing at now he must be the worst manager that we have ever had?
The whole matchday experience is appalling at Spotland right now but the buck stops with the shit that is being served up on the pitch.
Fook off Gauge!
Fook off McNulty! | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 22:37 - Feb 22 with 3067 views | James1980 |
Taking into consideration we've won 13 and lost 10 games how much of this is confirmation bias from those that were dubious in the first place? How many who genuinely backed JM with no reservations are calling for him to receive his P45 [Post edited 22 Feb 22:38]
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| Sack McNulty on 23:32 - Feb 22 with 2888 views | Sandyman |
| Sack McNulty on 22:37 - Feb 22 by James1980 |
Taking into consideration we've won 13 and lost 10 games how much of this is confirmation bias from those that were dubious in the first place? How many who genuinely backed JM with no reservations are calling for him to receive his P45 [Post edited 22 Feb 22:38]
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Pleasant sounding statistics do not mask over how bad this team is to watch at football, and its recent results. | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 23:57 - Feb 22 with 2803 views | turnthescrew |
| Sack McNulty on 22:19 - Feb 22 by Clivert |
Considering the level that we are playing at now he must be the worst manager that we have ever had?
The whole matchday experience is appalling at Spotland right now but the buck stops with the shit that is being served up on the pitch.
Fook off Gauge!
Fook off McNulty! |
Worst manager? Have you been on the post-match sauce? How about Stockdale, Eyre and Barrow for 3 outstanding candidates?
So McNulty may have lost his way a bit, but that doesn't mean there's anything terminal about the situation.
There's still an awful lot to play for and anyone bleating like lambs about sacking managers, because of a drop in form needs to give their heads a wobble. Get behind the bloody team.
Remember, this is a 3-year plan, not a quick fix. How long have Barnet been in the National League? Halifax? York? Southend?
From where we have been as a club, this last 18 months, it is inevitable that there will be hiccups along the way.
Turning on the team is the last thing we should be doing. | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 23:57 - Feb 22 with 2803 views | pioneer |
Giving him a three year contract must go down as one of the worst decisions this club has ever made.
I hope there are clauses in it giving the board total options...otherwise it will cost to get rid of him.
Another lesson learned by the Ogdens. | | | |
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| Sack McNulty on 00:18 - Feb 23 with 2729 views | nordenblue |
| Sack McNulty on 23:57 - Feb 22 by turnthescrew |
Worst manager? Have you been on the post-match sauce? How about Stockdale, Eyre and Barrow for 3 outstanding candidates?
So McNulty may have lost his way a bit, but that doesn't mean there's anything terminal about the situation.
There's still an awful lot to play for and anyone bleating like lambs about sacking managers, because of a drop in form needs to give their heads a wobble. Get behind the bloody team.
Remember, this is a 3-year plan, not a quick fix. How long have Barnet been in the National League? Halifax? York? Southend?
From where we have been as a club, this last 18 months, it is inevitable that there will be hiccups along the way.
Turning on the team is the last thing we should be doing. |
Tbh they all managed in the football league with us, we're now at a lesser point in the pyramid. Not too sure it's just a "drop in form" that's the major worry, for me it's his consistency to play a certain way that's blatantly not working with the personel hes recruited to do that job, not to mention his in game management, that would take some real explaining.
We need to remember it's supposed to be entertaining first and foremost, the football for the majority and even before this season would be a superb cure for insomnia, im not sure it helps Jim's cause any the absolute shite we got served up weekly by BBM, sadly its very similar | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 00:19 - Feb 23 with 2720 views | SuddenLad |
| Sack McNulty on 23:57 - Feb 22 by pioneer |
Giving him a three year contract must go down as one of the worst decisions this club has ever made.
I hope there are clauses in it giving the board total options...otherwise it will cost to get rid of him.
Another lesson learned by the Ogdens. |
Is it worse than the 5-year contract awarded to Keith Hill, or the ridiculous underhand contract that was secretly awarded to BBM who relegated us?
That team should never, ever have been relegated. That's where the rot started and we should never forget the damage that it inflicted on the club.
Roger the Bodger and Greengrass were largely responsible for that. I'll never forgive them. Ever. |  |
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| Sack McNulty on 00:46 - Feb 23 with 2650 views | dingdangblue |
| Sack McNulty on 00:19 - Feb 23 by SuddenLad |
Is it worse than the 5-year contract awarded to Keith Hill, or the ridiculous underhand contract that was secretly awarded to BBM who relegated us?
That team should never, ever have been relegated. That's where the rot started and we should never forget the damage that it inflicted on the club.
Roger the Bodger and Greengrass were largely responsible for that. I'll never forgive them. Ever. |
I mean 5 years for Hill was probably his downfall but at the end of the day he is our best ever manager. It was a reward for everything he'd achieved - which was astounding given our crowds and resourses in League 1. To be mixing it with the likes of Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United, Barnsley, Bolton, Charlton and beating them. They were incredible days and seem a long long way away watching todays performance. | |
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| Sack McNulty on 08:39 - Feb 23 with 2280 views | Clivert |
| Sack McNulty on 23:57 - Feb 22 by turnthescrew |
Worst manager? Have you been on the post-match sauce? How about Stockdale, Eyre and Barrow for 3 outstanding candidates?
So McNulty may have lost his way a bit, but that doesn't mean there's anything terminal about the situation.
There's still an awful lot to play for and anyone bleating like lambs about sacking managers, because of a drop in form needs to give their heads a wobble. Get behind the bloody team.
Remember, this is a 3-year plan, not a quick fix. How long have Barnet been in the National League? Halifax? York? Southend?
From where we have been as a club, this last 18 months, it is inevitable that there will be hiccups along the way.
Turning on the team is the last thing we should be doing. |
Considering the level we are now playing at and the 'caliber' of the teams that we are failing to beat then yes he is worse than all of those that you have named, and boy does that take some doing! | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 08:41 - Feb 23 with 2271 views | frenzied |
Cant see us sacking Jim..would nt want it anyway.
We are well off and have been all season from a likely promotion
Bigger clubs than us spent years in the wilderness County Wrexham etc.
Only a relegation from this league or poss of that may cause change at manager level.
A cup run may calm the waters on the terraces | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 08:53 - Feb 23 with 2216 views | TalkingSutty |
| Sack McNulty on 08:41 - Feb 23 by frenzied |
Cant see us sacking Jim..would nt want it anyway.
We are well off and have been all season from a likely promotion
Bigger clubs than us spent years in the wilderness County Wrexham etc.
Only a relegation from this league or poss of that may cause change at manager level.
A cup run may calm the waters on the terraces |
No chance of kick starting Project 5000 then. Hes been given a play off budget, that was stated earlier in the season. We are now losing matchday support rather than building on it. Nobody wants to watch this diet of boring, backward sterile football. You're making excuses for us to fail. The squad of players should have easily made the play offs. He's making excuses for the Tamworth game already, a part time club that is languishing in the bottom half of the league. If you are a player listening to your manager speaking like that you'd be drained of confidence before you even got onto the pitch. He's trying to pull the wool over the owners and the fans eyes, excuse after excuse and most fans can now see through it. Gibbons and himself looked like two little boys lost yesterday on the touchline, the players looked thoroughly cheesed off. They all downed tools and threw the towel in after an hour, tapped out. [Post edited 23 Feb 8:54]
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| Sack McNulty on 09:19 - Feb 23 with 2095 views | SuddenLad |
| Sack McNulty on 08:39 - Feb 23 by Clivert |
Considering the level we are now playing at and the 'caliber' of the teams that we are failing to beat then yes he is worse than all of those that you have named, and boy does that take some doing! |
We are in this League BECAUSE of managers like Stockdale, BBM, not despite of them. It isn't McNulty's fault we are here.
He has a decent squad of players - not the best - and like all teams at times, form has deserted them at the moment. A few additions and tweaks and we can get where we need to be.
Sacking anyone must always be a last resort. I'm not sure we've got to that point yet, but as ever, it's a results based business and the owners will decide when and whether to pull the trigger.
There was a bit of disharmony in the air yesterday amongst the players, as if some ill-feeling had crept in from somewhere. I hope it doesn't fester and whoever feels their feathers have been ruffled can put it aside and get on with the job in hand.
On to Tuesday. We are still in with a shout of something meaningful, so it's see how we go about it. | |
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| Sack McNulty on 10:07 - Feb 23 with 1900 views | Duckegg |
JM is still a rookey manager in my eyes and stil learning...
Biggest downside JM is his pig headed ignorance to continue with his one way system of playing but he knows that if the players pick up the pace from ko and put the oppostion on the backfoot which we have seen a few times..
Also his team formations are wrong and it is there for all to see, many supporters have said' if we can see it then why can't he'...
I'm not saying that he can go but he needs to stop his Pep style of football and get a some players in on loan who can mix it up.... |  | | |
| Sack McNulty on 10:15 - Feb 23 with 1853 views | Dalenet |
| Sack McNulty on 10:07 - Feb 23 by Duckegg |
JM is still a rookey manager in my eyes and stil learning...
Biggest downside JM is his pig headed ignorance to continue with his one way system of playing but he knows that if the players pick up the pace from ko and put the oppostion on the backfoot which we have seen a few times..
Also his team formations are wrong and it is there for all to see, many supporters have said' if we can see it then why can't he'...
I'm not saying that he can go but he needs to stop his Pep style of football and get a some players in on loan who can mix it up.... |
Sadly I can't see the Ogdens taking risks here. They gave him a top 6 budget, they then topped that budget up when we had injury problems in autumn. They have had cashflow challenges over winter given the postponements and now need to find a kings ransom for the summer pitch rebuild. They had a 3 plan for promotion - I doubt they will add yet more risk if they get a new appointment wrong. Changing managers costs at least half a million in compensation and new back room staff. So I think we are trapped and just have to hope that we can turn this around. Do I have any confidence in Jim, no. I hate watching our current brand of football. But I don't believe he is going anywhere until at least summer. If the Ogdens brought in a short term sporting director it might help - somebody to support Jim and pointing out the options for him. He wouldn't like it, but he is killing the club right now and the football has to change | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 10:44 - Feb 23 with 1709 views | Hopwoodblue |
| Sack McNulty on 10:15 - Feb 23 by Dalenet |
Sadly I can't see the Ogdens taking risks here. They gave him a top 6 budget, they then topped that budget up when we had injury problems in autumn. They have had cashflow challenges over winter given the postponements and now need to find a kings ransom for the summer pitch rebuild. They had a 3 plan for promotion - I doubt they will add yet more risk if they get a new appointment wrong. Changing managers costs at least half a million in compensation and new back room staff. So I think we are trapped and just have to hope that we can turn this around. Do I have any confidence in Jim, no. I hate watching our current brand of football. But I don't believe he is going anywhere until at least summer. If the Ogdens brought in a short term sporting director it might help - somebody to support Jim and pointing out the options for him. He wouldn't like it, but he is killing the club right now and the football has to change |
If we lose the next two games I think it will become very difficult to find a reason not to sack him.
As people have eluded to it’s not just the results it’s the entertainment on offer.
If they are trying to move the club forward and build the support I can’t see any option other than a change.
If they pamper to Jim’s style of football much longer I can’t see us selling many more than a thousand season tickets next year but I suppose and long as SG is enjoying it that’s all that matters. |  |
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| Sack McNulty on 11:30 - Feb 23 with 1582 views | D_Alien |
| Sack McNulty on 10:15 - Feb 23 by Dalenet |
Sadly I can't see the Ogdens taking risks here. They gave him a top 6 budget, they then topped that budget up when we had injury problems in autumn. They have had cashflow challenges over winter given the postponements and now need to find a kings ransom for the summer pitch rebuild. They had a 3 plan for promotion - I doubt they will add yet more risk if they get a new appointment wrong. Changing managers costs at least half a million in compensation and new back room staff. So I think we are trapped and just have to hope that we can turn this around. Do I have any confidence in Jim, no. I hate watching our current brand of football. But I don't believe he is going anywhere until at least summer. If the Ogdens brought in a short term sporting director it might help - somebody to support Jim and pointing out the options for him. He wouldn't like it, but he is killing the club right now and the football has to change |
And sadly, i think you're right
Apart from anything else - and as i alluded to yesterday - it's not just about sacking the manager, it's having the experience, contacts and understanding of what's required at our level to make an informed choice about a replacement
With Gauge still seemingly involved, he got his fingers burnt twice with managerial choices before plumping for the "in-house" option, and that's where we find ourselves
The Ogdens have no experience in the game, although i dare say they can see as clearly as anyone when something isn't working
In terms of how things are evolving, and which may explain McNulty's current dog's breakfast of tactical incompetence, this is informative:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c20l7lw3ypzo
He's just following trends, but with players who aren't up to it. Clarity of thought on the pitch has gone right out of the window, and my god, does it show! |  |
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| Sack McNulty on 11:54 - Feb 23 with 1459 views | EllDale |
I’m beginning to wonder if any research and homework had been done before playing recruitment on how successful teams win promotion from the NL? And I don’t mean throw money at it like Wrexham.
Gateshead seem to be the model; did BJ decide that his style of football would trump everything else and proceed accordingly without being practical about it?
We’re nearly at the situation where all three games in hand will have to be won to get back into those playoff places.
If nothing else, being in the top seven at the end of the season could bring a welcome financial bonus from a shared gate at somewhere like York, Oldham or Halifax for example. | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 13:16 - Feb 23 with 1177 views | seasidedale |
| Sack McNulty on 23:57 - Feb 22 by pioneer |
Giving him a three year contract must go down as one of the worst decisions this club has ever made.
I hope there are clauses in it giving the board total options...otherwise it will cost to get rid of him.
Another lesson learned by the Ogdens. |
People worry to much about lengths of contracts, Dunphy said when he was chairman (and after) that there are clauses with settlement figures and we only paid about 6 months settlement when hill and beech were sacked, sure there is something in Jim’s contract like that | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 15:50 - Feb 23 with 827 views | Clivert |
| Sack McNulty on 09:19 - Feb 23 by SuddenLad |
We are in this League BECAUSE of managers like Stockdale, BBM, not despite of them. It isn't McNulty's fault we are here.
He has a decent squad of players - not the best - and like all teams at times, form has deserted them at the moment. A few additions and tweaks and we can get where we need to be.
Sacking anyone must always be a last resort. I'm not sure we've got to that point yet, but as ever, it's a results based business and the owners will decide when and whether to pull the trigger.
There was a bit of disharmony in the air yesterday amongst the players, as if some ill-feeling had crept in from somewhere. I hope it doesn't fester and whoever feels their feathers have been ruffled can put it aside and get on with the job in hand.
On to Tuesday. We are still in with a shout of something meaningful, so it's see how we go about it. |
McNulty is BBM mk2 though only two divisions down from where we were under BBM.
Now I'm not defending BBM here at all but at least we had some memorable afternoons and evenings under him, what would you say is the most memorable thing from McNulty's reign?? A run to the last 8 of The FA Trophy??
Stockdale, Bentley and McNulty have all been disastrous appointments and that is all on Gauge, the sooner Gauge and McNulty leave the club the sooner we can look to a brighter future under the Ogden's | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 16:27 - Feb 23 with 657 views | James1980 |
For me the biggest mistake Gauge and the board made was not telling stakeholders the parlous state of the clubs finances. We were told that we would breakeven and that their was money available for Stockdale to build a competitive squad. We didn't know that board members would have to bolster the coffers with their own money (as an aside how did Gauge obtain enough money to be in the position to put money into the club, because his business acumen has been called into question). | |
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| Sack McNulty on 17:33 - Feb 23 with 437 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Sack McNulty on 13:16 - Feb 23 by seasidedale |
People worry to much about lengths of contracts, Dunphy said when he was chairman (and after) that there are clauses with settlement figures and we only paid about 6 months settlement when hill and beech were sacked, sure there is something in Jim’s contract like that |
I hope that is true re compensation.....but you never know what went on at the Club in those dark days and who might have drawn up any contact......were settlement clauses included? Even so, how much money has the Club leeched out in compo to this trail of loosers who have so called managed us further and further down the pyramid......and worse still on it goes with McNulty the new candidate for a pay off! Crazy stuff! .......and like Starmer's flights of fantacies, it's you and I that pay for all these cock-ups.
I'm sure the guys in charge now,will gen themselves up on making sure this does not happen again....I hope so. | | | |
| Sack McNulty on 17:37 - Feb 23 with 418 views | SuddenLad |
| Sack McNulty on 16:27 - Feb 23 by James1980 |
For me the biggest mistake Gauge and the board made was not telling stakeholders the parlous state of the clubs finances. We were told that we would breakeven and that their was money available for Stockdale to build a competitive squad. We didn't know that board members would have to bolster the coffers with their own money (as an aside how did Gauge obtain enough money to be in the position to put money into the club, because his business acumen has been called into question). |
Gauge called upon the wealth and generosity of his in-laws to fund the crisis. That's why we still have a club to support. However, the loans were converted to shares when the Ogdens were installed.
With the recent re-organisation of major boardroom positions, I'm not sure what role Gauge has any more. He is nominally Co-Chairman, but it seems that all the major responsibilities lay elsewhere.
Maybe he is looking for a quieter life. | |
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