| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here 13:35 - Dec 22 with 3387 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
These guys will have to sign a new deal this week or the club will have take a take action and decisive action.
I am of the opinion that having non committed players in the dressing room talking about money they can get elsewhere is bad for team morale and undermines the manager.
Watson and co have not worked properly and given Williams options at center back.
If I was in charge both players either sign by the end of this run of games or will be playing they last games from Swansea. The club will have to get 2-3 quality loans in or at least one permanent sharpish for January games.
Could Fulton serves as CB? Williams does not seem to have made any provisions for the duo running down their deals. What has he been doing?. "Hoping for the best" ?.
Both player cannot be allowed to play games with the club.
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 13:58 - Dec 22 with 1661 views | KeithHaynes |
Thing is we could easily give them a new contract at any point up until June.
Not good, but they could. |  |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:00 - Dec 22 with 1654 views | onehunglow |
Fair comment
What’s to be done ,Ideally
Rip up the contracts of the Dutch bloke and Pedesersen. Neither have or ever will feature
Same really with Joe Allen and Naughton,both 10 yrs past their best .
As for Fisher,our worst ever buy ,we seem stuck and need to loan him out . Surely a League 2 could do with him. Maybe not .
We could then move on.
Ideally ,but it won’t happen |  |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:10 - Dec 22 with 1630 views | KeithHaynes |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:00 - Dec 22 by onehunglow |
Fair comment
What’s to be done ,Ideally
Rip up the contracts of the Dutch bloke and Pedesersen. Neither have or ever will feature
Same really with Joe Allen and Naughton,both 10 yrs past their best .
As for Fisher,our worst ever buy ,we seem stuck and need to loan him out . Surely a League 2 could do with him. Maybe not .
We could then move on.
Ideally ,but it won’t happen |
Fisher is earmarked for a loan. | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:10 - Dec 22 with 1623 views | onehunglow |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:10 - Dec 22 by KeithHaynes |
Fisher is earmarked for a loan. |
Good.
To whom Keith ? | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:10 - Dec 22 with 1628 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 13:58 - Dec 22 by KeithHaynes |
Thing is we could easily give them a new contract at any point up until June.
Not good, but they could. |
This is the " hoping for the best" option and undermines the manager and compromises long term planning. Bring in Josh Low and Natt Phillips on loans and tell them both their Swansea days are over. Pick up £2-3m.
Stop fiddling about. Managers must manage not pray. | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:11 - Dec 22 with 1624 views | Whiterockin |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 13:58 - Dec 22 by KeithHaynes |
Thing is we could easily give them a new contract at any point up until June.
Not good, but they could. |
As is their perogative. They won't accept a move in January why should they, it's a Manning and Latibeaudiere situation a decent contract or it gets run down. To suggest dropping them would just be plain stupid. This situation has been brought on by the previous owners and is hard now to rectify. |  | | |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:36 - Dec 22 with 1546 views | Treforys_Jack |
Leeds and Bristol City sniffing around apparently |  | | |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:43 - Dec 22 with 1545 views | Whiterockin |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:36 - Dec 22 by Treforys_Jack |
Leeds and Bristol City sniffing around apparently |
If I was a betting man I would say Darling would be at Birmingham next season. Very ambitious owners, new stadium on the way, money is no object and logistically it would suit him better with his midlands based business interests. | | | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:50 - Dec 22 with 1530 views | nantywatcher |
Is there anyone at all here that believe either player would want to play under LW. Really? | | | |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:52 - Dec 22 with 1514 views | onehunglow |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:50 - Dec 22 by nantywatcher |
Is there anyone at all here that believe either player would want to play under LW. Really? |
Good point that | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:54 - Dec 22 with 1509 views | Whiterockin |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:50 - Dec 22 by nantywatcher |
Is there anyone at all here that believe either player would want to play under LW. Really? |
It's the contract offer more than any manager. When was the last time a player here signed a contract and only played for the manager employed when they signed. | | | |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:57 - Dec 22 with 1489 views | KeithHaynes |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:10 - Dec 22 by onehunglow |
Good.
To whom Keith ? |
Haven’t asked, but once / if the current 2nd keeper McGloughlin, scuse the spelling signs a contract that will be on offered to him next week it will happen. Margetson loves our second choice. | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:10 - Dec 22 with 1453 views | onehunglow |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:57 - Dec 22 by KeithHaynes |
Haven’t asked, but once / if the current 2nd keeper McGloughlin, scuse the spelling signs a contract that will be on offered to him next week it will happen. Margetson loves our second choice. |
That’s a relief then.
We need Fish off the books permanent .
Maybe he could go to Barnet ,o fess and they offer money to buy him | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:10 - Dec 22 with 1455 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 14:11 - Dec 22 by Whiterockin |
As is their perogative. They won't accept a move in January why should they, it's a Manning and Latibeaudiere situation a decent contract or it gets run down. To suggest dropping them would just be plain stupid. This situation has been brought on by the previous owners and is hard now to rectify. |
Cooper did it with Asoro. " I have told Joel he will not feature under me". he was gone shortly after,
Swansea have just put in one of the poorest performances for some time and the club has hit a tipping point. The manager has hinted at mentality issues. I believe Cabango and Darling are part of the problem as they are ticking over until they can earn "proper money". The whole team were "ticking over" on Saturday.
Cabango and Darling while doing OK are not irreplaceable and their replacement should have already been in the squad.
In my opinion if Darling and Cabango are told they have played their last game they will get their agent to bring forward their plans 6 month with a fee to be paid. Naughton can finish his career at Swansea as centre back.
If you have a problem you fix it. They should have gone in the Summer.
I do not buy this continual "its the previous owners fault" line. Who's fault it is, is irrelevant.
Coleman is and was calling the shots. [Post edited 22 Dec 15:14]
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:22 - Dec 22 with 1410 views | Whiterockin |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:10 - Dec 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Cooper did it with Asoro. " I have told Joel he will not feature under me". he was gone shortly after,
Swansea have just put in one of the poorest performances for some time and the club has hit a tipping point. The manager has hinted at mentality issues. I believe Cabango and Darling are part of the problem as they are ticking over until they can earn "proper money". The whole team were "ticking over" on Saturday.
Cabango and Darling while doing OK are not irreplaceable and their replacement should have already been in the squad.
In my opinion if Darling and Cabango are told they have played their last game they will get their agent to bring forward their plans 6 month with a fee to be paid. Naughton can finish his career at Swansea as centre back.
If you have a problem you fix it. They should have gone in the Summer.
I do not buy this continual "its the previous owners fault" line. Who's fault it is, is irrelevant.
Coleman is and was calling the shots. [Post edited 22 Dec 15:14]
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Coleman was only doing what he was allowed to do, hence the freedom reference within the club. I think Keith might confirm that the players were very upset regarding the contract discussions and the lack of commitment and progress by the club. Something along the lines of whether bridges could be re built. The recent Cabango "discussion" was embarrassing. | | | |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:33 - Dec 22 with 1376 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:22 - Dec 22 by Whiterockin |
Coleman was only doing what he was allowed to do, hence the freedom reference within the club. I think Keith might confirm that the players were very upset regarding the contract discussions and the lack of commitment and progress by the club. Something along the lines of whether bridges could be re built. The recent Cabango "discussion" was embarrassing. |
I am not interested if the players were upset or not. Cullen was not upset and signed a sustainable deal.
If they do not plan on being here next season they must be moved on.
I am suggesting Williams a cannot motivate players who are more concerned with Leeds utd or Birmingham getting promoted than Swansea getting into the top 6.
They are both decent men. Neither will want to be sitting out the next seven months and both will want to leave on good terms. Saturday established the team with Cabango and Darling ticking over is not fit for purpose if the purpose is top 6.
Time to blow up the bridge. [Post edited 22 Dec 15:34]
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:37 - Dec 22 with 1353 views | Whiterockin |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:33 - Dec 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I am not interested if the players were upset or not. Cullen was not upset and signed a sustainable deal.
If they do not plan on being here next season they must be moved on.
I am suggesting Williams a cannot motivate players who are more concerned with Leeds utd or Birmingham getting promoted than Swansea getting into the top 6.
They are both decent men. Neither will want to be sitting out the next seven months and both will want to leave on good terms. Saturday established the team with Cabango and Darling ticking over is not fit for purpose if the purpose is top 6.
Time to blow up the bridge. [Post edited 22 Dec 15:34]
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Cullen signed the contract he asked for. A couple of months ago you slated him every week and wanted him gone, you really are clueless and a very poor judge.
The club have until June to make an offer as Keith said, that can't be done if they are not here. [Post edited 22 Dec 15:38]
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:37 - Dec 22 with 1348 views | onehunglow |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:33 - Dec 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
I am not interested if the players were upset or not. Cullen was not upset and signed a sustainable deal.
If they do not plan on being here next season they must be moved on.
I am suggesting Williams a cannot motivate players who are more concerned with Leeds utd or Birmingham getting promoted than Swansea getting into the top 6.
They are both decent men. Neither will want to be sitting out the next seven months and both will want to leave on good terms. Saturday established the team with Cabango and Darling ticking over is not fit for purpose if the purpose is top 6.
Time to blow up the bridge. [Post edited 22 Dec 15:34]
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I genuinely think you are making fair points and some posters need to understand that yiu can be as right as them.
Williams will not last this season
I believe his time with us is ebbing away fast
If he goes,we will improve virtually overnight as a new coach will surely stop our suicidal play . | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:47 - Dec 22 with 1303 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:37 - Dec 22 by Whiterockin |
Cullen signed the contract he asked for. A couple of months ago you slated him every week and wanted him gone, you really are clueless and a very poor judge.
The club have until June to make an offer as Keith said, that can't be done if they are not here. [Post edited 22 Dec 15:38]
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It is my belief that the team's motivation problem is related to these two players "ticking over".
I am pleased Cullen is playing well. it has been a long time come at 25. He was a very promising 18 year old. He missed another headed chance on Saturday as he has not worked on his art and it shows.
About being clueless it was you was it not? who professed both could sign pre contract with other English or Scottish league teams in January. Judgement. | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:52 - Dec 22 with 1279 views | KeithHaynes |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:47 - Dec 22 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is my belief that the team's motivation problem is related to these two players "ticking over".
I am pleased Cullen is playing well. it has been a long time come at 25. He was a very promising 18 year old. He missed another headed chance on Saturday as he has not worked on his art and it shows.
About being clueless it was you was it not? who professed both could sign pre contract with other English or Scottish league teams in January. Judgement. |
They can sign unofficially, if they haven’t already.
Leeds are now confirmed as in for Darling as far as this website is concerned. | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:52 - Dec 22 with 1276 views | onehunglow |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:37 - Dec 22 by Whiterockin |
Cullen signed the contract he asked for. A couple of months ago you slated him every week and wanted him gone, you really are clueless and a very poor judge.
The club have until June to make an offer as Keith said, that can't be done if they are not here. [Post edited 22 Dec 15:38]
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Cullen has been mediocre for ages and many wanted him gone .
He’s improved but is very limited
He does have some pride in his job that many of his team mates lack. | |
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 16:03 - Dec 22 with 1241 views | nantywatcher |
"Ticking over?" Did you see Darlings goal and celebraton yesterday. Ticking over - you are out of your depth. | | | |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 16:11 - Dec 22 with 1213 views | Fireboy2 |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 16:03 - Dec 22 by nantywatcher |
"Ticking over?" Did you see Darlings goal and celebraton yesterday. Ticking over - you are out of your depth. |
Wow, a positive post about a player 😁👍 |  | | |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 16:13 - Dec 22 with 1202 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 16:03 - Dec 22 by nantywatcher |
"Ticking over?" Did you see Darlings goal and celebraton yesterday. Ticking over - you are out of your depth. |
Cabango was standing off for both goals. All players are happy at scoring. I am talking about he team mental dynamic. They "felt disrespected apparently" and no doubt voiced their disgust in the changing room. Williams is at a loss as to why he cannot motivate the team.
Why could Williams not motivate this team? Most of the senior professionals will be gone next season. Cabango, Darling, Allen, Pederson, Naughton, Fisher. [Post edited 22 Dec 16:16]
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| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 16:17 - Dec 22 with 1188 views | pete |
| Cabango and Darling crunch time is here on 15:52 - Dec 22 by KeithHaynes |
They can sign unofficially, if they haven’t already.
Leeds are now confirmed as in for Darling as far as this website is concerned. |
see Ben Davies not involved with spurs again today , just saying | | | |
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