| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 07:29 - Sep 20 with 1543 views | Boundy |
The only suprise is ,how did it take so long to become officially known. |  |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 22:45 - Sep 20 with 1454 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Fulham Ladies have confirmed that as early as 2001 steps were taken to ensure Al Fayed was not left alone with women. This smells like Saville. |  |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 22:54 - Sep 20 with 1452 views | Luther27 |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 07:29 - Sep 20 by Boundy |
The only suprise is ,how did it take so long to become officially known. |
Why didn’t anyone come forward when he was alive? The British establishment hated this guy with a vengeance and would have itched to get him to court.
Wasn’t Starmer head of CPS at the time? | |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 00:25 - Sep 21 with 1391 views | majorraglan |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 22:54 - Sep 20 by Luther27 |
Why didn’t anyone come forward when he was alive? The British establishment hated this guy with a vengeance and would have itched to get him to court.
Wasn’t Starmer head of CPS at the time? |
Starmer was the DPP, but it appears he wasn’t involved in the decision making. According to the Telegraph the case was handled by Rene Barclay, the CPS’s then director of complex casework, whose role included handling cases deemed “high profile”. The Met investigated the allegation and a file was passed to the CPS who determined that no further action should be taken.”
It appears that part of the reasoning behind the decision to NFA the case was because the alleged victim had got the day of the week wrong in her description of when the assault happened.
The prosecution rate for sexual offences is usually very low as offences invariable take place when there are just 2 people present - the victim and the offender and unless there’s really strong supporting evidence cases are usually discontinued because in many cases it’s 1 word against the other and proving beyond reasonable doubt very difficult or nigh on impossible.
In terms of extremes, on the one hand we have offenders like Saville and now Al Fayed and on the other we have Leon Britain, Ted Heath and others who were innocent but subject of a malicious and fabricated allegations. In between those extreme examples are hundreds of thousands of genuine victims who will struggle to or never get justice.
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 09:51 - Sep 21 with 1242 views | controversial_jack |
As head of the organisation he wouldn't be aware of every case. There are 3000 lawyers working for the organisation split over several locations. There wasn't sufficient evidence at the time, so i understand, the same with Saville too. | | | |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 10:09 - Sep 21 with 1226 views | Luther27 |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 00:25 - Sep 21 by majorraglan |
Starmer was the DPP, but it appears he wasn’t involved in the decision making. According to the Telegraph the case was handled by Rene Barclay, the CPS’s then director of complex casework, whose role included handling cases deemed “high profile”. The Met investigated the allegation and a file was passed to the CPS who determined that no further action should be taken.”
It appears that part of the reasoning behind the decision to NFA the case was because the alleged victim had got the day of the week wrong in her description of when the assault happened.
The prosecution rate for sexual offences is usually very low as offences invariable take place when there are just 2 people present - the victim and the offender and unless there’s really strong supporting evidence cases are usually discontinued because in many cases it’s 1 word against the other and proving beyond reasonable doubt very difficult or nigh on impossible.
In terms of extremes, on the one hand we have offenders like Saville and now Al Fayed and on the other we have Leon Britain, Ted Heath and others who were innocent but subject of a malicious and fabricated allegations. In between those extreme examples are hundreds of thousands of genuine victims who will struggle to or never get justice.
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Very informative thanks. Yet every day more people come forward pointing a finger of guilt at him the latest being Fulham women’s football club. What a cesspit of a country we live in where the wealthy and powerful treat people in this way. | |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 10:27 - Sep 21 with 1211 views | onehunglow |
As the head of a major organisation comes the salary ,the power and the responsibility .
The really good ones do know .
They ensure they do.
Buck stops | |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 11:01 - Sep 21 with 1208 views | builthjack |
So mote it be. |  |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 11:04 - Sep 21 with 1205 views | controversial_jack |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 10:27 - Sep 21 by onehunglow |
As the head of a major organisation comes the salary ,the power and the responsibility .
The really good ones do know .
They ensure they do.
Buck stops |
Would the chief constable of the met know that you arrested a drug dealer 2 weeks ago? | | | |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 11:58 - Sep 21 with 1086 views | majorraglan |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 10:09 - Sep 21 by Luther27 |
Very informative thanks. Yet every day more people come forward pointing a finger of guilt at him the latest being Fulham women’s football club. What a cesspit of a country we live in where the wealthy and powerful treat people in this way. |
Guy was clearly a wrong un, it’s a pity these issues weren’t highlighted when he was alive, if there were lots of people coming forward back then maybe we’d have seen him end up in the dock.
Al Fayed, Saville, Prince Andrew are 3 people I can think of off the top of my head who’ve been accused of skullduggery and on top of that we’ve had Rolf Harris, Huw Edwards, Weinstein and Trumpster all convicted of skullduggery in one Court or another. | | | |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 17:37 - Sep 21 with 1022 views | Gwyn737 |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 10:09 - Sep 21 by Luther27 |
Very informative thanks. Yet every day more people come forward pointing a finger of guilt at him the latest being Fulham women’s football club. What a cesspit of a country we live in where the wealthy and powerful treat people in this way. |
I read today that in 2001, there were 500 people in jail for serious sexual offences. That number has now tripled.
I don’t know if that means things are getting more common or more people are getting caught 🤷🏻 | | | |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 17:53 - Sep 21 with 997 views | Flashberryjack |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 17:37 - Sep 21 by Gwyn737 |
I read today that in 2001, there were 500 people in jail for serious sexual offences. That number has now tripled.
I don’t know if that means things are getting more common or more people are getting caught 🤷🏻 |
I'd say it's a bit of both, plus we are importing more people that aren't used to seeing women uncovered. |  |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 17:59 - Sep 21 with 992 views | Gwyn737 |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 17:53 - Sep 21 by Flashberryjack |
I'd say it's a bit of both, plus we are importing more people that aren't used to seeing women uncovered. |
That is a specific part of the problem for sure but doesn’t explain the massive increase.
I wonder if it’s linked to ‘me too’, including historical charges. | | | |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 18:10 - Sep 21 with 978 views | onehunglow |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 17:53 - Sep 21 by Flashberryjack |
I'd say it's a bit of both, plus we are importing more people that aren't used to seeing women uncovered. |
This is why Muslim ladies cover up their flesh ,so as not to stimulate their men .
Think on that
Basically,men can’t be trusted | |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 01:10 - Sep 22 with 888 views | KeithHaynes |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 17:37 - Sep 21 by Gwyn737 |
I read today that in 2001, there were 500 people in jail for serious sexual offences. That number has now tripled.
I don’t know if that means things are getting more common or more people are getting caught 🤷🏻 |
Makes you wonder who catches them. |  |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 01:38 - Sep 22 with 883 views | Robbie |
Prince Andrew seems to be still living a life of luxury at the tax payers money as usual .
The Firm will stop for nothing to keep him in the clear , never a bad word for him .
Never done any background reading on Al Fayed , again years later he is a baddie again .
Politicians claiming freebies , Starmer your accused and have now backed off hence .
Who for goodness sake can you trust these days , | | | |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 10:10 - Sep 22 with 790 views | onehunglow |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 01:38 - Sep 22 by Robbie |
Prince Andrew seems to be still living a life of luxury at the tax payers money as usual .
The Firm will stop for nothing to keep him in the clear , never a bad word for him .
Never done any background reading on Al Fayed , again years later he is a baddie again .
Politicians claiming freebies , Starmer your accused and have now backed off hence .
Who for goodness sake can you trust these days , |
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Imagine a man of 64 yrs of age living by virtue of an allowance from his brother l
He can’t work
He has no work skills
He has no life skills
He is dead from the neck up
He is totally removed from everyday life
He cannot look after himself
He can’t run his life on his own
He is as pitiful a creature as is possible to imagine
Entitled but not privileged. Indulging a cretin of that level is not doing him any favours and the late queen and her fornicating husband mixed him a real bottle | |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 10:23 - Sep 22 with 789 views | controversial_jack |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 17:37 - Sep 21 by Gwyn737 |
I read today that in 2001, there were 500 people in jail for serious sexual offences. That number has now tripled.
I don’t know if that means things are getting more common or more people are getting caught 🤷🏻 |
Stating the obvious, more are getting convicted. Have prosecutions rates increased? | | | |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 23:54 - Sep 22 with 682 views | STID2017 |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 17:37 - Sep 21 by Gwyn737 |
I read today that in 2001, there were 500 people in jail for serious sexual offences. That number has now tripled.
I don’t know if that means things are getting more common or more people are getting caught 🤷🏻 |
I think it is down to social media and so many people leaving trails which the authorities use to prosecute them.
For example in Huw Edward's case? |  |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 10:04 - Sep 23 with 596 views | theloneranger |
150 women have come forward since the BBC documentary - and counting. |  |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 10:45 - Sep 23 with 563 views | 1983 |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 22:54 - Sep 20 by Luther27 |
Why didn’t anyone come forward when he was alive? The British establishment hated this guy with a vengeance and would have itched to get him to court.
Wasn’t Starmer head of CPS at the time? |
Exactly this the same with Saville it's seems everyone knew he was at it but they will say fcuk all to just to keep their jobs. I remember Janice Long digging out Saville and saying his thing with her was he would always come up behind her when she was live on air and grab her t2ts asked if she ever told anyone she said no....keep your gob shut and the money keeps coming init [Post edited 23 Sep 10:47]
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 12:53 - Sep 23 with 476 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 10:45 - Sep 23 by 1983 |
Exactly this the same with Saville it's seems everyone knew he was at it but they will say fcuk all to just to keep their jobs. I remember Janice Long digging out Saville and saying his thing with her was he would always come up behind her when she was live on air and grab her t2ts asked if she ever told anyone she said no....keep your gob shut and the money keeps coming init [Post edited 23 Sep 10:47]
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I imagine a lot of the rich and powerful of this world would have regularly have stayed in Al Fayeds hotels. They would have taken their mistresses there, got up to all sorts of dodgy shit there. Fayed would have had dirt on everybody. This is probably what made him untouchable. |  |
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| What a surprise. Fayed was what we thought all along... on 13:06 - Sep 26 with 212 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
So over 200 allegations of assault, but nobody knew! [Post edited 26 Sep 13:35]
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