| Starmer! Wow! on 09:27 - Oct 3 with 236 views | AnotherJohn |
| Starmer! Wow! on 08:58 - Oct 3 by majorraglan |
I disagree with your view about gifts to an individual being different to a donation to a party, the guy that donated £15m to the Conservatives has public contracts, is that linked ? Robert Jenrick was housing minister when he illegally intervened in a planning issue for a Conservative donor who happened to donate £12k around the same time, so there may be links and this is an area that needs tightening up. We’ve also seen numerous comments about the donations made by unions to the Labour Party.
Times radio will push very hard on this because it’s a right leaning media outlet. |
Disagreement is, of course, allowed and even welcomed in a discussion forum. However, the distinction between gifts and donations is there in guidance, and it is pretty obvious that gifts often translate into a personal benefit in a way that donations to central party funds do not. This is reflected in the regulatory arrangements. The rules concerning donations also warrant scrutiny, but advantage there works in a less direct way as far as individual politicians are concerned.
I stand by my point that references to past donations to the Tory Party won't do much to stifle the present press frenzy about freebies, which is hotting up with the story about Lord Alli helping out a Labour peer involved in an expenses scandal with a loan to pay the money back. Take a look at the news outlets today right across the spectrum from the Indy to GB News. Incidentally, if you listen regularly to Times Radio, you will find it is at the socially-liberal end of the spectrum, and was quite positive towards Labour before the recent governmental mis-steps. [Post edited 3 Oct 9:39]
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| Starmer! Wow! on 10:10 - Oct 3 with 192 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Starmer! Wow! on 09:27 - Oct 3 by AnotherJohn |
Disagreement is, of course, allowed and even welcomed in a discussion forum. However, the distinction between gifts and donations is there in guidance, and it is pretty obvious that gifts often translate into a personal benefit in a way that donations to central party funds do not. This is reflected in the regulatory arrangements. The rules concerning donations also warrant scrutiny, but advantage there works in a less direct way as far as individual politicians are concerned.
I stand by my point that references to past donations to the Tory Party won't do much to stifle the present press frenzy about freebies, which is hotting up with the story about Lord Alli helping out a Labour peer involved in an expenses scandal with a loan to pay the money back. Take a look at the news outlets today right across the spectrum from the Indy to GB News. Incidentally, if you listen regularly to Times Radio, you will find it is at the socially-liberal end of the spectrum, and was quite positive towards Labour before the recent governmental mis-steps. [Post edited 3 Oct 9:39]
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The current focus on this story is partly be cause Starmer made a big fuss about Tory donations and spent time on stunts like going into a wallpaper shop when Johnson was redecorating number 10.
Starmer in a way has created the focus on this story. |  |
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| Starmer! Wow! on 10:13 - Oct 3 with 190 views | Whiterockin |
| Starmer! Wow! on 08:14 - Oct 3 by AnotherJohn |
I am not an expert on this, but it seems a complicated area. On the one hand, there is the Senedd’s Register of Members’ Interests relating to gifts and donations, on which apparently Gething did not declare the £200K donation. On the other hand, there are the Electoral Commission rules on donations. It seems that it was from the Electoral Commission that details of the size of the Gething donation became public. So as far as I can see, this is a donation rather than a gift but a donation to an MS rather than to central party funds. Some have argued that the rules in this area of donations to individual MSs need clarification.
https://nation.cymru/news/petition-launched-to-tighten-up-donation-rules-for-sen
Perhaps others know more than I do about this. [Post edited 3 Oct 8:16]
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Part of my confusion regarding money/gift/donation given to an individual is regarding, if this money was to fund his leadership campaign and there was money left over where does it go. How much money is needed to fund a leadership campaign in a two horse race in the Senedd. |  | | |
| Starmer! Wow! on 12:34 - Oct 3 with 118 views | onehunglow |
| Starmer! Wow! on 17:37 - Sep 19 by SullutaCreturned |
I did read it thoroughly and this bit stood out,
The PM defended his right to continue to take football freebies earlier this week, saying: ‘If I don’t accept a gift of hospitality, I can’t go to a game.
‘Never going to an Arsenal game again because I can’t accept hospitality is pushing it a bit far.’
Now on the assumption that is 100% accurate then I have to say, what kind of a screaming idiot is he?
Clearly the kind who loves to call the tories corrupt and hypocrites, people whose judgement is flawed and shouldn't be in power when he clearly doesn't recognise those traits/flaws in himself. |
He wants to see a game of football.
Why should he want to see it free | |
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