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This will be the first election that I have no idea who to vote for, will never vote Tory again after the lies during covid where my dad lost his life, don’t trust starmer, would never vote for a bunch of racists like reform , anyone give me a clue?
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favourite cheese mature Cheddar. FFS there is no such thing as the EPL
General Election Thread on 10:01 - Jul 31 by Discodroids
fair enough, i now understand where you are coming from. That carcinogenic powder siezed my soul for 17 years. I still attend 7/8 NA meetings weekly.
In any case, l witnessed last nights events in southend first hand when i met 'er indoors at the staion for a pint on the front... and it was wild. Bad news allround.
It’s grim.
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General Election Thread on 10:08 - Jul 31 with 2155 views
General Election Thread on 08:41 - Jul 31 by Discodroids
Neolitihic savagery in southend last night . Machette fights and general debased amok all over southend. It was like watching two tribes go at it from 'one million years BC,' only without Raquel welch in her saber tooth tiger bikini.
We get gangs from east london coming down once /twice a year , for a day out by the sea side . I think it's the 2024 east end version of a 1970's cockneys beano day out to the sea side without the watney party seven, just swords.
Its mods and Rockers with no Ace Face in his carnabetian raincoat, just former child soldiers of the demoractic republic of congo and fledgling hellbanianz in Joey Essex Lonsdale twin set leisure wear and Snake Plisskin dagger holsters.
Progressive.
[Post edited 31 Jul 8:46]
If you're carrying a machete like they were, automatic ten-year sentence, no excuses. Of course that won't happen and Labour will probably pay them compensation instead of giving them a prison sentence (as the prisons are full).
I get all the socioeconomic stuff, deprivation, etc. about the criminal justice system but until we stop normalising the extraordinary, things are just going to get worse. Meanwhile Khan is more bothered about the Premier League going to the US rather than the scourge of knife crime.
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General Election Thread on 10:31 - Jul 31 with 2070 views
General Election Thread on 10:30 - Jul 31 by Wegerles_Stairs
If you're carrying a machete like they were, automatic ten-year sentence, no excuses. Of course that won't happen and Labour will probably pay them compensation instead of giving them a prison sentence (as the prisons are full).
I get all the socioeconomic stuff, deprivation, etc. about the criminal justice system but until we stop normalising the extraordinary, things are just going to get worse. Meanwhile Khan is more bothered about the Premier League going to the US rather than the scourge of knife crime.
The government need to be bold and ban illegal gatherings of more than 50 people for the next 100 days. That fecking cocaine mob last night, as well as the mob in Leeds last week, are going to lynch someone - and that will be an innocent individual or a Policeman. Bring the military Police in to undertake some civic duties and get huge numbers of Police on the streets and give them the powers to sort these c**nts out. You want to have a sword fight in Southend then be prepared to get sorted. You want to riot in violation of a banning order, then be prepared to get your head cracked open.
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General Election Thread on 11:00 - Jul 31 with 1947 views
I’ve lost count of the times you’ve made this absurd claim. I will admit to being flattered you believe I have the power to bend Norvern’ to my will but I can assure you that is not the case. I’m not proud of it but I’m sure I’ve been as much of a pain in the arse over the years as anyone here. However I’m happy to put my hands up and apologise when I’ve gone too far. On this occasion I think Sheffield crossed the line and went to a dark place. You don’t, that’s fine but there’s no need for your clutching of pearls and making sht up. Sheffield is more than capable of holding his own, he gives as good as he gets. I may disagree with his views , and yes occasionally tease him for the bonkers Qanon stuff but at least he isn’t constantly playing the victim and does actually contribute on LFW to more than just the political threads. Anyway, apologies to anyone who feels i p1ssed on their chips, I’ll duck out of this thread and leave you to it.
Oh but also a shout out to Disco, still loving’ your work brother. Keep doing what you do, making us smile and keeping me honest . I was hoping for at least a Fatima Whitbread, Sherbet Dabs or Black Market reference in your reply but lefty beggars can’t be choosers. Hopefully next time. Peace.
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General Election Thread on 11:03 - Jul 31 with 1940 views
I'm fed up wirh "certain people" using human tragedy to fuel their pet political ideologies. Three kids have died,can't you give it a rest for a spell until the full picture is known?
General Election Thread on 11:03 - Jul 31 by Sonofpugwash
I'm fed up wirh "certain people" using human tragedy to fuel their pet political ideologies. Three kids have died,can't you give it a rest for a spell until the full picture is known?
Couldn't agree more. It would be nice if people resisted the urge to speculate/stir up trouble before we have any idea of people's motives.
General Election Thread on 11:00 - Jul 31 by Ranger_Things
I’ve lost count of the times you’ve made this absurd claim. I will admit to being flattered you believe I have the power to bend Norvern’ to my will but I can assure you that is not the case. I’m not proud of it but I’m sure I’ve been as much of a pain in the arse over the years as anyone here. However I’m happy to put my hands up and apologise when I’ve gone too far. On this occasion I think Sheffield crossed the line and went to a dark place. You don’t, that’s fine but there’s no need for your clutching of pearls and making sht up. Sheffield is more than capable of holding his own, he gives as good as he gets. I may disagree with his views , and yes occasionally tease him for the bonkers Qanon stuff but at least he isn’t constantly playing the victim and does actually contribute on LFW to more than just the political threads. Anyway, apologies to anyone who feels i p1ssed on their chips, I’ll duck out of this thread and leave you to it.
Oh but also a shout out to Disco, still loving’ your work brother. Keep doing what you do, making us smile and keeping me honest . I was hoping for at least a Fatima Whitbread, Sherbet Dabs or Black Market reference in your reply but lefty beggars can’t be choosers. Hopefully next time. Peace.
[Post edited 31 Jul 11:07]
Fu ck me tha last paragraph wasn't too bad!.
l have to take my hat off to you there RT. I actually felt a mild dopamine rush . Most unexpected. By the end of the thread we'll all be dancing spiral tribe style to 'moments in love' by art of noise.
Clive has become our Mahrishi yogi and brought together us all as one with his binding words of love.
In the spirit of your last para, and if it pleases the court i apologize for the 'broken heart' jibe.
Peace be upon you also brother
[Post edited 31 Jul 11:20]
".... You are the... Duke of New York... You're A-Number One!".
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General Election Thread on 11:14 - Jul 31 with 1891 views
General Election Thread on 10:30 - Jul 31 by Wegerles_Stairs
If you're carrying a machete like they were, automatic ten-year sentence, no excuses. Of course that won't happen and Labour will probably pay them compensation instead of giving them a prison sentence (as the prisons are full).
I get all the socioeconomic stuff, deprivation, etc. about the criminal justice system but until we stop normalising the extraordinary, things are just going to get worse. Meanwhile Khan is more bothered about the Premier League going to the US rather than the scourge of knife crime.
It was very scary for Jo my wife on the train, she was shaking when i met her at the station. They were running up and down the Carriage making pig like grunts and farmyard animal noises at passangers and gobbing skunk laden spiitle at commuters. Clockwork orange shit.
The poor old cow was in a mess , Man alive i was crippled with anger.
We gave the seafront a miss.
[Post edited 31 Jul 11:34]
".... You are the... Duke of New York... You're A-Number One!".
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General Election Thread on 12:53 - Jul 31 with 1711 views
General Election Thread on 11:10 - Jul 31 by Discodroids
Fu ck me tha last paragraph wasn't too bad!.
l have to take my hat off to you there RT. I actually felt a mild dopamine rush . Most unexpected. By the end of the thread we'll all be dancing spiral tribe style to 'moments in love' by art of noise.
Clive has become our Mahrishi yogi and brought together us all as one with his binding words of love.
In the spirit of your last para, and if it pleases the court i apologize for the 'broken heart' jibe.
Peace be upon you also brother
[Post edited 31 Jul 11:20]
Spiral Tribe! That takes me back to fields in Hampshire. Also Mark and Alex’s squat in Hampstead. Proper dog on a string raves and very different vibe to other raves like Sunrise, Biology etc. You ‘re from that manor so presumably know Swallow and the ICF /Centre Force crew. Quite surreal hanging out with people you previously spent Saturday afternoons taking lumps out of. Or more accurately in our case being chased down the road by. They were a proper laugh though. Also remember them in Knockers!
It really was a different age. Good times though.
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General Election Thread on 13:02 - Jul 31 with 1693 views
General Election Thread on 12:53 - Jul 31 by Ranger_Things
Spiral Tribe! That takes me back to fields in Hampshire. Also Mark and Alex’s squat in Hampstead. Proper dog on a string raves and very different vibe to other raves like Sunrise, Biology etc. You ‘re from that manor so presumably know Swallow and the ICF /Centre Force crew. Quite surreal hanging out with people you previously spent Saturday afternoons taking lumps out of. Or more accurately in our case being chased down the road by. They were a proper laugh though. Also remember them in Knockers!
It really was a different age. Good times though.
Jesus christ dont say we have yet more in common.... we'll be having a pint at the Queen adelaide next !.
I knew Nick power and Andy Rose from Centerforce.. I loved spiral tribe, reclaim the streets, return to the source and escape from samsara too . Whirl y gig was a great night.
Because i was born in Upton park with a west ham family and all my friends were west ham i had to mix in those circles from the early 80's when i was a young teen.. although never in the epicenter of it all. i'm a lover not a fighter!
'Knockers'... oh my good gawd...
[Post edited 31 Jul 13:03]
".... You are the... Duke of New York... You're A-Number One!".
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General Election Thread on 14:04 - Jul 31 with 1541 views
General Election Thread on 13:02 - Jul 31 by Discodroids
Jesus christ dont say we have yet more in common.... we'll be having a pint at the Queen adelaide next !.
I knew Nick power and Andy Rose from Centerforce.. I loved spiral tribe, reclaim the streets, return to the source and escape from samsara too . Whirl y gig was a great night.
Because i was born in Upton park with a west ham family and all my friends were west ham i had to mix in those circles from the early 80's when i was a young teen.. although never in the epicenter of it all. i'm a lover not a fighter!
'Knockers'... oh my good gawd...
[Post edited 31 Jul 13:03]
No those boys took it all very seriously.
Fckin’ hell it’s all coming flooding back. I don’t know if it’s just rose tinted specs but I doubt young un’s these days have as much fun as we did. Rage, Confusion, Shoom, Gas. It’s definitely a small world, I guarantee we share friends in common. I know some folks on here think I’m being disingenuous when I talk about “fellow fans” but when someone has a pop I can’t help myself. As sensei Clive says “we are all QPR fans” but it’s more than just a shared experience on Saturday afternoons. I’ve worked with LoftForWorders, went to school, played football, raved and been to wakes and weddings with them. One was a neighbour and another used to service my car. Hopefully not sounding too Finney but it’s a small club and we really are a QPR family. There may be a fair argument for me being the problem child though..
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General Election Thread on 16:58 - Jul 31 with 1281 views
General Election Thread on 15:22 - Jul 31 by Ranger_Things
No those boys took it all very seriously.
Fckin’ hell it’s all coming flooding back. I don’t know if it’s just rose tinted specs but I doubt young un’s these days have as much fun as we did. Rage, Confusion, Shoom, Gas. It’s definitely a small world, I guarantee we share friends in common. I know some folks on here think I’m being disingenuous when I talk about “fellow fans” but when someone has a pop I can’t help myself. As sensei Clive says “we are all QPR fans” but it’s more than just a shared experience on Saturday afternoons. I’ve worked with LoftForWorders, went to school, played football, raved and been to wakes and weddings with them. One was a neighbour and another used to service my car. Hopefully not sounding too Finney but it’s a small club and we really are a QPR family. There may be a fair argument for me being the problem child though..
fair enough me old mucker.. all good points. I'm a cynical old bastard.
Anyway, i'm off to bloody southend again in a minute to sit in a N.A meeting at a scouts hut with a semi circle of other cynical bastards of all ages, genders and races for a bit inspiration/misery/regret/positivity/negativity/love /hate/hope and all points inbetween upon the great wheel spokes of life .
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".... You are the... Duke of New York... You're A-Number One!".
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General Election Thread on 18:09 - Jul 31 with 1174 views
General Election Thread on 05:45 - Jul 31 by Discodroids
Discorrhoids !! Briliant!! you just don't find comdeic writing like this anymore..
You worked really ard on that insult mate... you cultivated that one like a Bonsai master tending lovingly to his botanical tree garden over the course of many decades. Truely you are a 5th dan high sensei of insults. ippon!
We all write in a manner befitting our own personality Danny manner fanner, and fack me if i know what i'm on about half the time but i can never understand a word you say unless your calling other posters 'Fuc ktards' at 2am or posting memes of nigel fargage crawling from the wreckage of a plane.
All your posts sound like your talking to yourself in a rampton secure unit of rubber and foam... trying out your latest meme to an audience of two balloons with faces drawn on, which you'd nicked out of a secure unit therapeutic art class, and hid up youir arsehole before your bedtime ovaltine and benzodiazepines.
Either that or some furry freak brother stoned out of his skate smoking banana skins on his bean bag listening to Van der graff Generator while knocking one out to a robert crumb drawing of a fat puerto rican woman in denim hot pants .
General Election Thread on 05:45 - Jul 31 by Discodroids
Discorrhoids !! Briliant!! you just don't find comdeic writing like this anymore..
You worked really ard on that insult mate... you cultivated that one like a Bonsai master tending lovingly to his botanical tree garden over the course of many decades. Truely you are a 5th dan high sensei of insults. ippon!
We all write in a manner befitting our own personality Danny manner fanner, and fack me if i know what i'm on about half the time but i can never understand a word you say unless your calling other posters 'Fuc ktards' at 2am or posting memes of nigel fargage crawling from the wreckage of a plane.
All your posts sound like your talking to yourself in a rampton secure unit of rubber and foam... trying out your latest meme to an audience of two balloons with faces drawn on, which you'd nicked out of a secure unit therapeutic art class, and hid up youir arsehole before your bedtime ovaltine and benzodiazepines.
Either that or some furry freak brother stoned out of his skate smoking banana skins on his bean bag listening to Van der graff Generator while knocking one out to a robert crumb drawing of a fat puerto rican woman in denim hot pants .
keep on memeing, man.
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Oh come on … definitely the former rather than the latter. Haha very good Disco, a (slight) return to form on your part.
Serio tho sorry to hear your missus was witness to that nonsense in Southend yesterday. Not nice at all. Hope the bastard incident didn’t affect her too much and you both enjoy the rest of the summer.
Love and peace DP.
Nurse! NUURRSSE!!!
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General Election Thread on 18:31 - Jul 31 with 1098 views
General Election Thread on 22:30 - Jul 30 by SheffieldHoop
Even I concede this situation is untenable. Labour just pissed an election with fewer votes than Corbyn, who got smashed. Make it make sense.
When looking at Corbyn's policies alone without them being attached to Labour, every poll said the majority of people at the time preferred them to the Tory policies.
Also, the lame press view that people hate Corbyn really was biased reporting as well. As recent results show that Starmer was less popular than Corbyn at the GE time. So, that makes no difference to elections anyway even if you think its true.
So, how come Corbyn lost as it's clear more people voted for Boris and the Tories? Why? What's the reason? It's something we don't talk about much now.
Brexit.
While Corbyn also supported Brexit, more people felt that Boris would do a better job of it than Corbyn. This is a fair enough view at the time, as we can all see how if so many people really wanted a Farage Brexit (which many did), they would for sure go with Boris over Corbyn. And that's what happened at the time.
Now, years later, when it's no longer a big issue and also when we see what Boris really did, we can say that if it was to be re-run with that knowledge, Corbyn would have won. But at the time, no Labour leader, no matter who they were, would have won the election as it was a Brexit Election. And the result shows that.
The real reason Labour won this time and won big was due to the Tories being found out as being total liars, even to their base that their base then split and Reform took many votes off them. That is the Tories who turned up to vote; as we can see, the vote was down in regards to population size. Hence, this is why you see Starmer has fewer votes but has way more seats. The Tory vote did not turn up and when it did, it was split between Reform. Rather than Starmer winning it, in essence, the hard-right shafted itself. They won't make that mistake again.
What it also means is that those right-wing Blairites in Labour who are crowing they won with centrist policies now need to deliver and deliver big. This is because plenty of those seats will swing hard back to the Tories once the Reform mess is sorted out. These Blairites won't deliver big as they are just the usual idiots who talk about how they have to be in the centre to win, and then when they do, nothing really changes as centrist policies are so middle of road they change nothing. They will get found out as they have already with winter allowance and actually decreasing the number of houses being built in London. It's really austerity, and we know that defo never delivers growth.
Already, the Junior Doctors union, despite winning a 20% pay rise (which capitalist press pundits said they would never get), now have said they may come back in a year after the honeymoon period and strike again. Streeting is gonna feel massive pain as he will be forced to take Reeves on or the Unions. He will take on the Unions as he's such a Blairite sellout and then we are off as the left takes lots of bitter chunks out of the right of the party. Streeting will see his rep totally blown apart, its gonna be funny watching that slimy git get his.
Then with some by-elections you will see in those Tory won seats flip back hard and the left of Labour will claim ... "we told you so, best you learn or all you other ex-Blue seat MP's will flip back too".
Then we shall see Blairites in those seats start the real trouble for Starmer and Co as they fear for their seats. The Labour left does not have to worry about most of their seats as being left-wing; the electorate knows what they are getting. This is proven as we can see from how Corbyn still won his seat despite it being a new boundary drawn against him.
The Blairites made such a lame excuse when he won, they said its because voters still though he was Labour. Like who? Who does not know the Blairites kicked Corbyn out of the party? They made such a big deal about it to everyone, so everyone knows. No, more likely it was some people who voted Labour as they always do and did not care who the candidate was. The complete opposite of what the Blairites claimed.
This is important to note, as it's not about Corbyn or who what, it's about a pattern emerging of their excuses. This time on this issue, as you will see on many future ones, are laughable and lame and weak in their response. There will be more of this, it will be Bealeske in it's lameness. Forgot Corbyn look at this pattern as it comes back again and again.
Remember TFS (Two-Faced Starmer).
zzzzzzzzzz
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General Election Thread on 19:18 - Jul 31 with 3140 views
General Election Thread on 18:51 - Jul 31 by LazyFan
When looking at Corbyn's policies alone without them being attached to Labour, every poll said the majority of people at the time preferred them to the Tory policies.
Also, the lame press view that people hate Corbyn really was biased reporting as well. As recent results show that Starmer was less popular than Corbyn at the GE time. So, that makes no difference to elections anyway even if you think its true.
So, how come Corbyn lost as it's clear more people voted for Boris and the Tories? Why? What's the reason? It's something we don't talk about much now.
Brexit.
While Corbyn also supported Brexit, more people felt that Boris would do a better job of it than Corbyn. This is a fair enough view at the time, as we can all see how if so many people really wanted a Farage Brexit (which many did), they would for sure go with Boris over Corbyn. And that's what happened at the time.
Now, years later, when it's no longer a big issue and also when we see what Boris really did, we can say that if it was to be re-run with that knowledge, Corbyn would have won. But at the time, no Labour leader, no matter who they were, would have won the election as it was a Brexit Election. And the result shows that.
The real reason Labour won this time and won big was due to the Tories being found out as being total liars, even to their base that their base then split and Reform took many votes off them. That is the Tories who turned up to vote; as we can see, the vote was down in regards to population size. Hence, this is why you see Starmer has fewer votes but has way more seats. The Tory vote did not turn up and when it did, it was split between Reform. Rather than Starmer winning it, in essence, the hard-right shafted itself. They won't make that mistake again.
What it also means is that those right-wing Blairites in Labour who are crowing they won with centrist policies now need to deliver and deliver big. This is because plenty of those seats will swing hard back to the Tories once the Reform mess is sorted out. These Blairites won't deliver big as they are just the usual idiots who talk about how they have to be in the centre to win, and then when they do, nothing really changes as centrist policies are so middle of road they change nothing. They will get found out as they have already with winter allowance and actually decreasing the number of houses being built in London. It's really austerity, and we know that defo never delivers growth.
Already, the Junior Doctors union, despite winning a 20% pay rise (which capitalist press pundits said they would never get), now have said they may come back in a year after the honeymoon period and strike again. Streeting is gonna feel massive pain as he will be forced to take Reeves on or the Unions. He will take on the Unions as he's such a Blairite sellout and then we are off as the left takes lots of bitter chunks out of the right of the party. Streeting will see his rep totally blown apart, its gonna be funny watching that slimy git get his.
Then with some by-elections you will see in those Tory won seats flip back hard and the left of Labour will claim ... "we told you so, best you learn or all you other ex-Blue seat MP's will flip back too".
Then we shall see Blairites in those seats start the real trouble for Starmer and Co as they fear for their seats. The Labour left does not have to worry about most of their seats as being left-wing; the electorate knows what they are getting. This is proven as we can see from how Corbyn still won his seat despite it being a new boundary drawn against him.
The Blairites made such a lame excuse when he won, they said its because voters still though he was Labour. Like who? Who does not know the Blairites kicked Corbyn out of the party? They made such a big deal about it to everyone, so everyone knows. No, more likely it was some people who voted Labour as they always do and did not care who the candidate was. The complete opposite of what the Blairites claimed.
This is important to note, as it's not about Corbyn or who what, it's about a pattern emerging of their excuses. This time on this issue, as you will see on many future ones, are laughable and lame and weak in their response. There will be more of this, it will be Bealeske in it's lameness. Forgot Corbyn look at this pattern as it comes back again and again.
Remember TFS (Two-Faced Starmer).
Good post. I think it's Starmer's centrist cheerleaders in the media who are going to struggle with what to say with no Tory bogeyman to attack. Stopping winter payments to pensioners? That's on you, however much you blame the previous government for supposedly creating a black hole. Though obviously Corbyn will probably be to blame for most of it anyway because he had a thought in 2017.
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General Election Thread on 19:44 - Jul 31 with 3055 views
Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.
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General Election Thread on 23:39 - Jul 31 with 2789 views
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