| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 09:12 - Jul 18 with 3413 views | Badlands |
Mike Marsh is even more anonymous at the moment, it’s all a bit of a mess.
Eh!
Why say something if there's nothing to say? Thankfully its been a few years since the rumour mill was started up and fed from within the club. |  |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 09:18 - Jul 18 with 3395 views | Thornburyswan |
Looks like Lee Carsley is getting the England U21 job, so that’s another option closed off. |  | | |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 09:23 - Jul 18 with 3386 views | magicdaps10 |
Although being a white man!?! What does that actually mean? |  |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 09:25 - Jul 18 with 3374 views | magicdaps10 |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 09:23 - Jul 18 by magicdaps10 |
Although being a white man!?! What does that actually mean? |
Play on a song I know but surely a edit is needed there chaps. | |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 09:43 - Jul 18 with 3321 views | KeithHaynes |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 09:12 - Jul 18 by Badlands |
Mike Marsh is even more anonymous at the moment, it’s all a bit of a mess.
Eh!
Why say something if there's nothing to say? Thankfully its been a few years since the rumour mill was started up and fed from within the club. |
Let’s see where everyone is in a weeks time. |  |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 10:00 - Jul 18 with 3264 views | magicdaps10 |
That would have been a better clash song to go with especially in today's modern world🤔😠| |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 10:15 - Jul 18 with 3231 views | NotLoyal |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 09:12 - Jul 18 by Badlands |
Mike Marsh is even more anonymous at the moment, it’s all a bit of a mess.
Eh!
Why say something if there's nothing to say? Thankfully its been a few years since the rumour mill was started up and fed from within the club. |
Pick out something positive and comment for once 🙄 |  |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 10:27 - Jul 18 with 3193 views | onehunglow |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 10:15 - Jul 18 by NotLoyal |
Pick out something positive and comment for once 🙄 |
Allow me.
That us a really good read and it shows we really do not know much at all/Football i a gossip shop as are most sports.
I do not recall a manager less "loved" than Steveo for many years though.
Maybe it's simply his face.
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 12:15 - Jul 18 with 3009 views | Badlands |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 10:15 - Jul 18 by NotLoyal |
Pick out something positive and comment for once 🙄 |
How was that negative?
The current bunch have kept things close until there is something to announce.
Not the case in the past.
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My comments on the US consortium, Cabango, Routledge, Fulton, Ayew, Guehi (of late), NUghton, Bennett are almost always complementary. [Post edited 18 Jul 2021 12:17]
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 12:20 - Jul 18 with 2993 views | Johnw102 |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 10:27 - Jul 18 by onehunglow |
Allow me.
That us a really good read and it shows we really do not know much at all/Football i a gossip shop as are most sports.
I do not recall a manager less "loved" than Steveo for many years though.
Maybe it's simply his face.
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Less loved managers. Bungling Bob Bradleyand Monk towards the end for starters. |  |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 13:08 - Jul 18 with 2894 views | onehunglow |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 12:20 - Jul 18 by Johnw102 |
Less loved managers. Bungling Bob Bradleyand Monk towards the end for starters. |
I dunno.Bob had chutpah and a certain hapless auro but he wasnt dislikeable unlike Cooper.
Monk had some success on the field of play -at least for a while and maybe ousting Laudrup wasnt seen as disastrous as some make out as he had clearly lost interest.
No,Steveo for me. In the corner of the classroom | |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 13:11 - Jul 18 with 2897 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 10:27 - Jul 18 by onehunglow |
Allow me.
That us a really good read and it shows we really do not know much at all/Football i a gossip shop as are most sports.
I do not recall a manager less "loved" than Steveo for many years though.
Maybe it's simply his face.
No offence |
Oh come on Bob B has to take that spoon surely. | | | |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 13:34 - Jul 18 with 2853 views | jack247 |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 13:08 - Jul 18 by onehunglow |
I dunno.Bob had chutpah and a certain hapless auro but he wasnt dislikeable unlike Cooper.
Monk had some success on the field of play -at least for a while and maybe ousting Laudrup wasnt seen as disastrous as some make out as he had clearly lost interest.
No,Steveo for me. In the corner of the classroom |
In terms of personality, yes.
That’s pretty much irrelevant to me to be honest. Results and style of play are important, whether a manager is good fun or not isn’t.
Bradley was a charicature. Exactly what you’d expect an old school American PE teacher or army sergeant to be like.
He had absolutely no right to be near a premier league team after a 30 year career of mediocrity though. He was embarrassingly out of his depth.
Cooper has achieved relative success. He’s reached the playoffs twice. The then two were sacked before they could relegate us.
I don’t dispute his football is drab and he comes across as a hard man to like, mainly when we play badly, lose and he just blames everyone else. | | | |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 14:36 - Jul 18 with 2753 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Whatever the merits of Cooper are he has found the key to longevity. He is going into his 3 rd season. This is some sort of record if he sticks it out.
I named him a "goldilocks" manager too good to sack and not good enough to be poached.
Copper himself will be bruised by accusations of 'turgid football' and over defensive approach. If indeed he as interviewed at big clubs this my have been given to him as a reason why he is not worth increasing his salary 10x. He may accept this or not.
I am not a coach so am not sure how easily he can change an ingrained methodology. Both Southgate and Steve Bruce have rectified similar perceptions by parachuting in Graham Jones well known as a pass and move coach. Cooper could fast track chance by doing the same and bringing in a 'Jenkinista' appointment like Routledge or Rangel or give Tate more influence.
The ideal is the continuation of stingy defending incorporating more pace and passing possession football thatv can be sustained for 90 minutes. Both Wales under page and England under Southgate could not control possession. Wales lost control after 15 minutes v Denmark and England after 60 minutes v Italy. |  |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 14:53 - Jul 18 with 2724 views | jack247 |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 14:36 - Jul 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Whatever the merits of Cooper are he has found the key to longevity. He is going into his 3 rd season. This is some sort of record if he sticks it out.
I named him a "goldilocks" manager too good to sack and not good enough to be poached.
Copper himself will be bruised by accusations of 'turgid football' and over defensive approach. If indeed he as interviewed at big clubs this my have been given to him as a reason why he is not worth increasing his salary 10x. He may accept this or not.
I am not a coach so am not sure how easily he can change an ingrained methodology. Both Southgate and Steve Bruce have rectified similar perceptions by parachuting in Graham Jones well known as a pass and move coach. Cooper could fast track chance by doing the same and bringing in a 'Jenkinista' appointment like Routledge or Rangel or give Tate more influence.
The ideal is the continuation of stingy defending incorporating more pace and passing possession football thatv can be sustained for 90 minutes. Both Wales under page and England under Southgate could not control possession. Wales lost control after 15 minutes v Denmark and England after 60 minutes v Italy. |
I wish people would drop this idea that Rangel and Routledge are mega coaches because they played during our Swanselona era | | | |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 15:42 - Jul 18 with 2653 views | Thornburyswan |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 13:34 - Jul 18 by jack247 |
In terms of personality, yes.
That’s pretty much irrelevant to me to be honest. Results and style of play are important, whether a manager is good fun or not isn’t.
Bradley was a charicature. Exactly what you’d expect an old school American PE teacher or army sergeant to be like.
He had absolutely no right to be near a premier league team after a 30 year career of mediocrity though. He was embarrassingly out of his depth.
Cooper has achieved relative success. He’s reached the playoffs twice. The then two were sacked before they could relegate us.
I don’t dispute his football is drab and he comes across as a hard man to like, mainly when we play badly, lose and he just blames everyone else. |
To be somewhat fair to him whilst it’s difficult as a fan to warm to him the players appear to appreciate him, both existing & new ones. | | | |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 16:02 - Jul 18 with 2603 views | Brynmill_Jack |
If he could make us play like Spain just did in the Euros I’d take Taki Micallef as manager |  |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 16:30 - Jul 18 with 2572 views | jack247 |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 15:42 - Jul 18 by Thornburyswan |
To be somewhat fair to him whilst it’s difficult as a fan to warm to him the players appear to appreciate him, both existing & new ones. |
Definitely. And that’s far more important | | | |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 18:15 - Jul 18 with 2453 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 14:53 - Jul 18 by jack247 |
I wish people would drop this idea that Rangel and Routledge are mega coaches because they played during our Swanselona era |
Why is that?.
I work on the basis that if you are a bright person with good values there was a lot to be learned from the Swansea evolution that reached it peak under Laudrup at the Mestalla or Wembley. Routledge and Rangel are both bright people and good communicators who love he club.
Cooper would be wise in my opinion to incorporate this knowledge to improve his own performance. Just as Southgate and Bruce have done with Graham Jones.
Cooper said this about Routledge.
(( Cooper says Routledge has been a major influence on Swansea's successes in 2020-21 despite featuring in only 12 league games.
"He contributes in the togetherness of the group, being a role model, he's still one of the best trainers," he added.
"He's a great bridge between myself and the dressing room. He sees it from both sides because of his age and his experience.
"He's got a massive heart, he wants to give back and he's doing that while still being able to contribute on the pitch. I think the football club has been very lucky to have had him." ))
As testimonials go you do not get much better than that. | |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 18:27 - Jul 18 with 2423 views | KeithHaynes |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 16:02 - Jul 18 by Brynmill_Jack |
If he could make us play like Spain just did in the Euros I’d take Taki Micallef as manager |
😂😂😂😂👠| |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 18:42 - Jul 18 with 2409 views | KeithHaynes |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 12:15 - Jul 18 by Badlands |
How was that negative?
The current bunch have kept things close until there is something to announce.
Not the case in the past.
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My comments on the US consortium, Cabango, Routledge, Fulton, Ayew, Guehi (of late), NUghton, Bennett are almost always complementary. [Post edited 18 Jul 2021 12:17]
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You crack on mate, no problem. | |
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| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 18:49 - Jul 18 with 2398 views | jack247 |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 18:15 - Jul 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Why is that?.
I work on the basis that if you are a bright person with good values there was a lot to be learned from the Swansea evolution that reached it peak under Laudrup at the Mestalla or Wembley. Routledge and Rangel are both bright people and good communicators who love he club.
Cooper would be wise in my opinion to incorporate this knowledge to improve his own performance. Just as Southgate and Bruce have done with Graham Jones.
Cooper said this about Routledge.
(( Cooper says Routledge has been a major influence on Swansea's successes in 2020-21 despite featuring in only 12 league games.
"He contributes in the togetherness of the group, being a role model, he's still one of the best trainers," he added.
"He's a great bridge between myself and the dressing room. He sees it from both sides because of his age and his experience.
"He's got a massive heart, he wants to give back and he's doing that while still being able to contribute on the pitch. I think the football club has been very lucky to have had him." ))
As testimonials go you do not get much better than that. |
Because you have no idea if they would make good coaches or not. | | | |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 18:52 - Jul 18 with 2396 views | jack247 |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 18:15 - Jul 18 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Why is that?.
I work on the basis that if you are a bright person with good values there was a lot to be learned from the Swansea evolution that reached it peak under Laudrup at the Mestalla or Wembley. Routledge and Rangel are both bright people and good communicators who love he club.
Cooper would be wise in my opinion to incorporate this knowledge to improve his own performance. Just as Southgate and Bruce have done with Graham Jones.
Cooper said this about Routledge.
(( Cooper says Routledge has been a major influence on Swansea's successes in 2020-21 despite featuring in only 12 league games.
"He contributes in the togetherness of the group, being a role model, he's still one of the best trainers," he added.
"He's a great bridge between myself and the dressing room. He sees it from both sides because of his age and his experience.
"He's got a massive heart, he wants to give back and he's doing that while still being able to contribute on the pitch. I think the football club has been very lucky to have had him." ))
As testimonials go you do not get much better than that. |
Because you have no idea if they would make the grade in a non playing role.
England reached the final, kudos for that, they hardly did it playing the football you are associating with Graham Jones. They looked a lot more like a Cooper side than a Martinez side. | | | |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 21:57 - Jul 18 with 2304 views | BillyChong |
| Steve Cooper and the clash of opinions. Is it the end ? on 18:52 - Jul 18 by jack247 |
Because you have no idea if they would make the grade in a non playing role.
England reached the final, kudos for that, they hardly did it playing the football you are associating with Graham Jones. They looked a lot more like a Cooper side than a Martinez side. |
Spot on. Cooper and Southgate appear to have been on the same defensive driven coaching courses at St George’s Park. They also must have been on the same ‘How to use your substitutes’ seminars. | | | |
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