Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? 17:43 - Dec 1 with 2385 views | Loyal | Seems to me he will manoeuvre to suit the climate, but always has his country at heart. Not seeking conflict but protecting his countries interests he states. | ![](/images/avatars/19328.gif) |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 21:10 - Dec 1 with 1605 views | biggar | Totally agree. The man is light years ahead of the majority of European leaders. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 21:16 - Dec 1 with 1596 views | trampie | Putin is currently the number one statesperson in the World. | ![](/images/avatars/9495.gif) |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 21:30 - Dec 1 with 1583 views | Clinton | He's like a card player with a very weak hand, but playing it brilliantly. Economically and population wise, dwarfed by EU, dwarfed by US, dwarfed by China. But he's on the front foot. Tell you what will happen. At some point Trump will fall out with him, and go after him. Fireworks. | ![](/images/avatars/9081.gif) |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 22:07 - Dec 1 with 1554 views | nice_to_michu |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 21:30 - Dec 1 by Clinton | He's like a card player with a very weak hand, but playing it brilliantly. Economically and population wise, dwarfed by EU, dwarfed by US, dwarfed by China. But he's on the front foot. Tell you what will happen. At some point Trump will fall out with him, and go after him. Fireworks. |
What is it exactly that is so admirable? Is it the air strikes that have, as confirmed by human right she groups on the ground in Syria, killed far more civilians than the coalition air strikes? Or is it the persecution of minorities in His own country (e.g. homosexuals) appealing to you? Or maybe the invasion of foreign countries to ensure they become part of the new Russian empire the best part (which is diffferent to regime change bytheway)? Perhaps his mishandling of the economy is the thing that really inspires you? | ![](/images/avatars/19858.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 22:17 - Dec 1 with 1539 views | trampie |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 22:07 - Dec 1 by nice_to_michu | What is it exactly that is so admirable? Is it the air strikes that have, as confirmed by human right she groups on the ground in Syria, killed far more civilians than the coalition air strikes? Or is it the persecution of minorities in His own country (e.g. homosexuals) appealing to you? Or maybe the invasion of foreign countries to ensure they become part of the new Russian empire the best part (which is diffferent to regime change bytheway)? Perhaps his mishandling of the economy is the thing that really inspires you? |
Is it correct to say you don't like Castro and you don't like Putin and you don't like Leanne Wood and you don't like Corbyn but you are a Labour voter/member ? [Post edited 1 Dec 2016 22:29]
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 22:54 - Dec 1 with 1502 views | controversial_jack |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 21:30 - Dec 1 by Clinton | He's like a card player with a very weak hand, but playing it brilliantly. Economically and population wise, dwarfed by EU, dwarfed by US, dwarfed by China. But he's on the front foot. Tell you what will happen. At some point Trump will fall out with him, and go after him. Fireworks. |
I wouldn't say he has a weak hand, far from it.Russia have the largest oil, gas and mineral reserves of any country on earth. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 23:48 - Dec 1 with 1479 views | nice_to_michu |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 22:54 - Dec 1 by controversial_jack | I wouldn't say he has a weak hand, far from it.Russia have the largest oil, gas and mineral reserves of any country on earth. |
Not even close to having the most oil in the world. | ![](/images/avatars/19858.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 23:54 - Dec 1 with 1476 views | nice_to_michu |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 22:17 - Dec 1 by trampie | Is it correct to say you don't like Castro and you don't like Putin and you don't like Leanne Wood and you don't like Corbyn but you are a Labour voter/member ? [Post edited 1 Dec 2016 22:29]
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Do I like Castro or Putin? Nope, don't like ultra nationalism or dictators. Put in isn't particularly left wing either so I don't know why you are so fond of him. Do I like Leanne Wood? Nope, don't like nationalism in that form either. And she doesn't have the intellect to run a community council let alone Wales. Do I like Corbyn? Nope, don't agree with his soft foreign and military policies nor do I think he isn't a good communicator. Am I Labour member or supporter? Not a member, am a supporter. | ![](/images/avatars/19858.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) | Login to get fewer ads
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 07:34 - Dec 2 with 1431 views | trampie |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 23:54 - Dec 1 by nice_to_michu | Do I like Castro or Putin? Nope, don't like ultra nationalism or dictators. Put in isn't particularly left wing either so I don't know why you are so fond of him. Do I like Leanne Wood? Nope, don't like nationalism in that form either. And she doesn't have the intellect to run a community council let alone Wales. Do I like Corbyn? Nope, don't agree with his soft foreign and military policies nor do I think he isn't a good communicator. Am I Labour member or supporter? Not a member, am a supporter. |
Do you believe in nationalisation ?, higher taxes for workers ?, high levels of state involvement in the running of the country ? and do you believe in sovereign borders ? [Post edited 2 Dec 2016 8:07]
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 08:35 - Dec 2 with 1409 views | Brynmill_Jack |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 22:07 - Dec 1 by nice_to_michu | What is it exactly that is so admirable? Is it the air strikes that have, as confirmed by human right she groups on the ground in Syria, killed far more civilians than the coalition air strikes? Or is it the persecution of minorities in His own country (e.g. homosexuals) appealing to you? Or maybe the invasion of foreign countries to ensure they become part of the new Russian empire the best part (which is diffferent to regime change bytheway)? Perhaps his mishandling of the economy is the thing that really inspires you? |
Good point. The U.S. would never invade anywhere where they weren't supposed to be or siphon off the assets of those nation states into the U.S. central bank to pay for any such invasions. Cough. | ![](/images/avatars/8686.gif) |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 08:59 - Dec 2 with 1391 views | nice_to_michu |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 08:35 - Dec 2 by Brynmill_Jack | Good point. The U.S. would never invade anywhere where they weren't supposed to be or siphon off the assets of those nation states into the U.S. central bank to pay for any such invasions. Cough. |
You understand the difference between regime change (e.g. Iraq) and annexing countries so that they come under your own flag (e.g. Crimea, South Ossetia)? As for "siphoning of assets", I assume you are alluding to Iraq again? Funny then that the majority of oil fields in Iraq are not American-owned at all.... | ![](/images/avatars/19858.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 09:05 - Dec 2 with 1388 views | nice_to_michu |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 07:34 - Dec 2 by trampie | Do you believe in nationalisation ?, higher taxes for workers ?, high levels of state involvement in the running of the country ? and do you believe in sovereign borders ? [Post edited 2 Dec 2016 8:07]
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Nationalization of industry? Yes, some such as rail, post office etc. That's a position many Labour MPs have had before Corbyn. Higher taxes for workers? Well, I would emphasize higher taxes on the wealthy and corporations, as opposed to workers. Again, a position that many Labour MPs had before Corbyn, and not a position shared by Putin for that matter. State involvement in running the country? Sure. Sovereign borders? Of course I do. I believe in parliamentary sovereignty and the borders recognized by the United Nations, unlike Putin. | ![](/images/avatars/19858.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 09:15 - Dec 2 with 1384 views | trampie |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 09:05 - Dec 2 by nice_to_michu | Nationalization of industry? Yes, some such as rail, post office etc. That's a position many Labour MPs have had before Corbyn. Higher taxes for workers? Well, I would emphasize higher taxes on the wealthy and corporations, as opposed to workers. Again, a position that many Labour MPs had before Corbyn, and not a position shared by Putin for that matter. State involvement in running the country? Sure. Sovereign borders? Of course I do. I believe in parliamentary sovereignty and the borders recognized by the United Nations, unlike Putin. |
That is the position old Labour had including Corbyn, yet you don't seem to like any politicians with old Labour values. You are a nationalist, anyone that believes in borders is a nationalist. | ![](/images/avatars/9495.gif) |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:20 - Dec 2 with 1382 views | LeonWasGod | So annexing countries by force and blowing passenger airliners out of the sky is just bantz is it? Not to mention his massive personal corruption and sponsorship of state corruption. He's misunderstood, but comes across as an immoral w@nker to me. He's also backed into a corner by the West though and no doubt feels threatened. | ![](/images/avatars/21105.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:22 - Dec 2 with 1377 views | Murph75 |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:20 - Dec 2 by LeonWasGod | So annexing countries by force and blowing passenger airliners out of the sky is just bantz is it? Not to mention his massive personal corruption and sponsorship of state corruption. He's misunderstood, but comes across as an immoral w@nker to me. He's also backed into a corner by the West though and no doubt feels threatened. |
He does look great bare chested on a horse though. | ![](/images/avatars/18474.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:23 - Dec 2 with 1375 views | Loyal |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 22:07 - Dec 1 by nice_to_michu | What is it exactly that is so admirable? Is it the air strikes that have, as confirmed by human right she groups on the ground in Syria, killed far more civilians than the coalition air strikes? Or is it the persecution of minorities in His own country (e.g. homosexuals) appealing to you? Or maybe the invasion of foreign countries to ensure they become part of the new Russian empire the best part (which is diffferent to regime change bytheway)? Perhaps his mishandling of the economy is the thing that really inspires you? |
Welcome to the USA ... Uk ..... Ditto. | ![](/images/avatars/19328.gif) |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:25 - Dec 2 with 1369 views | Loyal |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:22 - Dec 2 by Murph75 | He does look great bare chested on a horse though. |
The Russians love a bit of ego. | ![](/images/avatars/19328.gif) |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:34 - Dec 2 with 1362 views | LeonWasGod |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:22 - Dec 2 by Murph75 | He does look great bare chested on a horse though. |
True. But not a patch on May I reckon | ![](/images/avatars/21105.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:37 - Dec 2 with 1362 views | perchrockjack | Maybe Michu is an honourable independent minded man who votes Labour. Because one votes labour, that doesn't mean you support a an who is racist ,homophobic, sees nowt wrong in trying to capture lost lands for mother Russia. A man who was KGB boss who oversaw much torture ,death and destruction. A man currently bombing the shyte out of kids in Syria but still, he s a leftie, a socialist and an American hater, so that s enough for some beauts on here. Leanne... .?He d roger her arse to destruction. Now then, Next up...Mugabe, a Marxist par excellence. A good guy ? | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:45 - Dec 2 with 1356 views | Murph75 |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 09:34 - Dec 2 by LeonWasGod | True. But not a patch on May I reckon |
Maybe. You might have an issue trying to identify the horse though. | ![](/images/avatars/18474.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 10:01 - Dec 2 with 1336 views | father_jack |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 21:16 - Dec 1 by trampie | Putin is currently the number one statesperson in the World. |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 10:03 - Dec 2 with 1333 views | perchrockjack | Gorbachev ,whilst a communist was a decent man . A man who freed counties and people from oppression against the odds. Putin is a dark throwback to the likes of Brezhnev , who had many butchered and enslaved. Clearly, nobody here has spoken to anyone who lived under the iron fist | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 10:03 - Dec 2 with 1332 views | nice_to_michu |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? (n/t) on 09:15 - Dec 2 by trampie | That is the position old Labour had including Corbyn, yet you don't seem to like any politicians with old Labour values. You are a nationalist, anyone that believes in borders is a nationalist. |
Ok, if that is your definition of a nationalist then sure. But "nationalism" to a lot of people these days means a flag-waving "get out of my country, you're not one of us" type of attitude. I don't subscribe to that. As for Old vs New Labour, actually John McDonell has adopted a very similar economic strategy to Ed Balls and co (e.g. balance the books, can't spend what you don't have, fiscal charter and so on). I would say the main difference between the two "Labour Party's" is Corbyn's indefensibly weak foreign policy, and attitudes towards national security and so on. Not forgetting the soft nonsense Corbyn comes out with sometimes such as "there shouldn't be drinks after work because it is discriminatory". Labour under Corbyn is just a fan club. Many "members" are really just fan club members as opposed to Labour Party members. [Post edited 2 Dec 2016 10:04]
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 10:06 - Dec 2 with 1326 views | perchrockjack | Watching Alan Johnson last night makes one wonder just why labour didn't have the sense to get him to be leader. A man guaranteed to give labour a 50 plus majority | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) |
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Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 10:21 - Dec 2 with 1312 views | nice_to_michu |
Putin is at the forefront as one of the worlds best leaders ? on 10:06 - Dec 2 by perchrockjack | Watching Alan Johnson last night makes one wonder just why labour didn't have the sense to get him to be leader. A man guaranteed to give labour a 50 plus majority |
Yeh I like Alan Johnson, too. Seems genuine, sensible. | ![](/images/avatars/19858.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
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