| Spotland purchase complete on 22:31 - Mar 17 with 3052 views | dingdangblue |
| Spotland purchase complete on 21:39 - Mar 17 by R17ALE |
Phoenix Brewery in Heywood have already done a few themed Rochdale AFC ales.
The Cem have stocked these, and one is called Spotland Gold, whilst the other (lesser known) is called Dunphy's Delight I think*. Regal Moon once sold Spotland Gold, brought out in our Centenary season to mark it.
*Surely, he must be the only Chairman to ever have a beer brewed and named after him?
This sort of accolade is normally reserved for the likes of Fred Truman. (Tetleys). |
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| Spotland purchase complete on 00:18 - Mar 18 with 2923 views | downunder |
| Spotland purchase complete on 14:09 - Mar 17 by VespaDale |
So you'd be happy to pay £22 & a floating City / Utd fan get the seat next to you for £15? Nice way to reward the loyal supporters!!! |
There might be something in that idea though. Could be a few United fans not renewing their season tickets the way their season is crumbling. I am sure we are capable of half time prawn sandwiches.
Any income is good income. |  | | |
| Spotland purchase complete on 02:41 - Mar 18 with 2883 views | Albert_Whitehurst |
| Spotland purchase complete on 21:39 - Mar 17 by R17ALE |
Phoenix Brewery in Heywood have already done a few themed Rochdale AFC ales.
The Cem have stocked these, and one is called Spotland Gold, whilst the other (lesser known) is called Dunphy's Delight I think*. Regal Moon once sold Spotland Gold, brought out in our Centenary season to mark it.
*Surely, he must be the only Chairman to ever have a beer brewed and named after him?
This sort of accolade is normally reserved for the likes of Fred Truman. (Tetleys). |
Pictish Brewery in Castleton also, high quality.
Would be great to see something like the Ratcliffe along the lines of the Leyton Orient Supporters Club bar which has a great selection of ales, ran beer festivals periodically and (I think) was nominated as one of the top real ale pubs in the area. |  | | |
| Spotland purchase complete on 08:26 - Mar 18 with 2756 views | dingdangblue |
| Spotland purchase complete on 02:41 - Mar 18 by Albert_Whitehurst |
Pictish Brewery in Castleton also, high quality.
Would be great to see something like the Ratcliffe along the lines of the Leyton Orient Supporters Club bar which has a great selection of ales, ran beer festivals periodically and (I think) was nominated as one of the top real ale pubs in the area. |
No reason why not - need to make it so people come for the day and experience - not just the football. Spotland Social Club is heaving most Saturday games - these people should be at Spotland in the bars there. Better/cheaper beer is the best way of doing that. | |
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| Spotland purchase complete on 09:34 - Mar 18 with 2692 views | D_Alien |
| Spotland purchase complete on 02:41 - Mar 18 by Albert_Whitehurst |
Pictish Brewery in Castleton also, high quality.
Would be great to see something like the Ratcliffe along the lines of the Leyton Orient Supporters Club bar which has a great selection of ales, ran beer festivals periodically and (I think) was nominated as one of the top real ale pubs in the area. |
That would be the icing on the cake, or the head on t' pint, or summat!
There's also a new brewery just opened on the Fieldhouse industrial estate, plus there's the Serious Brewing Company in Littleborough. |  |
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| Spotland purchase complete on 10:26 - Mar 18 with 2637 views | DaleiLama |
| Spotland purchase complete on 02:41 - Mar 18 by Albert_Whitehurst |
Pictish Brewery in Castleton also, high quality.
Would be great to see something like the Ratcliffe along the lines of the Leyton Orient Supporters Club bar which has a great selection of ales, ran beer festivals periodically and (I think) was nominated as one of the top real ale pubs in the area. |
That would indeed be a business model worthy of emulation.
http://www.orientsupporters.webeden.co.uk/bar/4532477306
I know there is competition from the Ceme down the road, but that's often packed and whilst I've never had a bad pint in there, I've never had a great one either. The Spotland Gold is good but can be a bit up and down (like the Dale's season this year!) There is a real opportunity here (pun intended) to offer proper quality food and beer and complement the match day experience, whilst keeping supporters spending in-house.
I see the stadium acquisition as a massive positive, in terms of marketing, revenue generation etc, but it also begs the question, will this shift resources away from attendance improvement? My feeling (albeit from a remote perspective) is way more attention is being focussed on the corporate/business side of things than getting more fans through the turnstiles. The bottom line is that this angle may be a lot more profitable and its a case of going for the lower hanging fruit first. I hope we don't suffer from a small team of people having too many balls in the air to juggle, but Rome wasn't built in a day, so a bit of patience will no doubt be required. |  |
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| Spotland purchase complete on 10:33 - Mar 18 with 2624 views | dingdangblue |
| Spotland purchase complete on 10:26 - Mar 18 by DaleiLama |
That would indeed be a business model worthy of emulation.
http://www.orientsupporters.webeden.co.uk/bar/4532477306
I know there is competition from the Ceme down the road, but that's often packed and whilst I've never had a bad pint in there, I've never had a great one either. The Spotland Gold is good but can be a bit up and down (like the Dale's season this year!) There is a real opportunity here (pun intended) to offer proper quality food and beer and complement the match day experience, whilst keeping supporters spending in-house.
I see the stadium acquisition as a massive positive, in terms of marketing, revenue generation etc, but it also begs the question, will this shift resources away from attendance improvement? My feeling (albeit from a remote perspective) is way more attention is being focussed on the corporate/business side of things than getting more fans through the turnstiles. The bottom line is that this angle may be a lot more profitable and its a case of going for the lower hanging fruit first. I hope we don't suffer from a small team of people having too many balls in the air to juggle, but Rome wasn't built in a day, so a bit of patience will no doubt be required. |
Improving the match day experience can only help attract potential fans. If the Stadium and bars are developed correctly it can only have a positive effect. I have a group of friends who I bring at least a couple of times a season - although not Dale fans - I try and get them all down to Spotland. If the facilities were improved we'd spend the day from lunchtime onwards at the Stadium - instead of surrounding pubs. [Post edited 19 Mar 2016 10:58]
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| Spotland purchase complete on 10:54 - Mar 19 with 2269 views | Ninco |
Just been listening to Mark Wynn, the Rochdale Hornets Chairman on their YouTube channel. He was talking about the ground purchase from a Hornet's view and he said that it benefits Hornets as they have got a vastly reduced rent out of it. As they have still got the same facilities, but will be paying less, it sounds to me like the football club have had to offer an incentive to get the deal through. He also said it's a fantastic lease agreement for them. He was asked if either sets of fans would notice any difference in the day to day running of the club and he said that both Chairmen had agreed that the ground looks tired and needs improving, but he said it may be a lick of paint rather than a renovation. He said that the Rugby League had to ask them if they were in agreement to selling the shares, which seems strange as they belonged to the previous Rochdale Hornets company originally, and he said that they agreed provided that they got a good lease out of it. |  | | |
| Spotland purchase complete on 11:24 - Mar 19 with 2224 views | TalkingSutty |
| Spotland purchase complete on 10:54 - Mar 19 by Ninco |
Just been listening to Mark Wynn, the Rochdale Hornets Chairman on their YouTube channel. He was talking about the ground purchase from a Hornet's view and he said that it benefits Hornets as they have got a vastly reduced rent out of it. As they have still got the same facilities, but will be paying less, it sounds to me like the football club have had to offer an incentive to get the deal through. He also said it's a fantastic lease agreement for them. He was asked if either sets of fans would notice any difference in the day to day running of the club and he said that both Chairmen had agreed that the ground looks tired and needs improving, but he said it may be a lick of paint rather than a renovation. He said that the Rugby League had to ask them if they were in agreement to selling the shares, which seems strange as they belonged to the previous Rochdale Hornets company originally, and he said that they agreed provided that they got a good lease out of it. |
Thanks for that. The 'Vastly reduced rent' comment is great to hear, glad he's confirmed it in public. It means that there is no real reason not to keep up with the rent, if that's the case it should be a harmonious relationship and the more successful they are the more money comes into our Stadium through the bars. I assume the bar takings go to the Football Club or maybe it will be worked out on a percentage. |  | | |
| Spotland purchase complete on 11:32 - Mar 19 with 2209 views | D_Alien |
| Spotland purchase complete on 11:24 - Mar 19 by TalkingSutty |
Thanks for that. The 'Vastly reduced rent' comment is great to hear, glad he's confirmed it in public. It means that there is no real reason not to keep up with the rent, if that's the case it should be a harmonious relationship and the more successful they are the more money comes into our Stadium through the bars. I assume the bar takings go to the Football Club or maybe it will be worked out on a percentage. |
If hornets are getting such a good deal out of it - and I'm glad they are - then Dale should get to keep the full proceeds from any match day sales, since we'll be covering the overheads. Anything else would be difficult to evaluate financially. | |
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| Spotland purchase complete on 11:45 - Mar 19 with 2183 views | aleanddale |
No doubt in my mind that the town benefits from having a rugby league team.
They play at Spotland I am glad there has been a sensible outcome and long may we remain friends.
Just need hornets to stick to the lease agreement and I hope they enjoy success at Spotland for many years to come. | | | |
| Spotland purchase complete on 15:35 - Mar 19 with 2045 views | mingthemerciless |
A year or two back I was talking to the bar staff and they reckoned the Rugby League fans put more money over the bar than the Football fans. Don't know what the situation is now. | | | |
| Spotland purchase complete on 18:03 - Mar 19 with 1967 views | TVOS1907 |
| Spotland purchase complete on 15:35 - Mar 19 by mingthemerciless |
A year or two back I was talking to the bar staff and they reckoned the Rugby League fans put more money over the bar than the Football fans. Don't know what the situation is now. |
That will be because they can drink during the game. |  |
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| Spotland purchase complete on 18:47 - Mar 19 with 1916 views | 442Dale |
| Spotland purchase complete on 15:35 - Mar 19 by mingthemerciless |
A year or two back I was talking to the bar staff and they reckoned the Rugby League fans put more money over the bar than the Football fans. Don't know what the situation is now. |
Which is great for Dale now. Open the bar an hour earlier! |  |
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| Spotland purchase complete on 19:05 - Mar 19 with 1877 views | 1mark1 |
| Spotland purchase complete on 11:32 - Mar 19 by D_Alien |
If hornets are getting such a good deal out of it - and I'm glad they are - then Dale should get to keep the full proceeds from any match day sales, since we'll be covering the overheads. Anything else would be difficult to evaluate financially. |
Totally agree. The only takings that Hornets should get are admission and ticket sales, any golden gamble type sales , match programme sales and of course any of their club shop sales.
ALL kiosk and bar takings, car parking etc should go to the Stadum company which of course means the club. And I agree, with a low rent no excuse to not pay their rent.
Does anyone know how and when are Hornets paying, ie is it on Pay per Play for matches and regular monthly payments for office etc? |  |
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| Spotland purchase complete on 19:37 - Mar 19 with 1803 views | pioneer |
I imagine details of arrangements for bar and food sales will all be determined in the contract set up to cover Hornets use of the stadium so its not a matter of what should or shouldnt but probablt what we (had to) agree to to get the RFL to sell the shares.
Maybe the Trust can find out these details. | | | |
| Spotland purchase complete on 19:41 - Mar 19 with 1794 views | 442Dale |
| Spotland purchase complete on 19:37 - Mar 19 by pioneer |
I imagine details of arrangements for bar and food sales will all be determined in the contract set up to cover Hornets use of the stadium so its not a matter of what should or shouldnt but probablt what we (had to) agree to to get the RFL to sell the shares.
Maybe the Trust can find out these details. |
Send it in as a question for Monday night. | |
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| Spotland purchase complete on 22:27 - Mar 19 with 1681 views | mingthemerciless |
| Spotland purchase complete on 18:03 - Mar 19 by TVOS1907 |
That will be because they can drink during the game. |
Yeah, you're probably right. I don't normally drink before or during the game but I used to have a few in the bar after the game. | | | |
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