| The official Garry's got the job debate thread 13:53 - May 7 with 14292 views | Darran |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 19:54 - May 7 with 1072 views | AngelRangelQS |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 19:50 - May 7 by exiledclaseboy |
I've always said that you are far too sensible and level-headed for this forum. |
On a thread where I've called someone a c*nt?
Thanks, though! It probably wont last long. 2 defeats at the start of next season and I'll be joining the lunatic club |  | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 19:55 - May 7 with 1067 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 19:54 - May 7 by AngelRangelQS |
On a thread where I've called someone a c*nt?
Thanks, though! It probably wont last long. 2 defeats at the start of next season and I'll be joining the lunatic club |
Sometimes calling someone a c*nt is the only sensible option. |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:03 - May 7 with 1040 views | dgt73 |
Congratulations Gary, I'm sure you will do a great job. |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:15 - May 7 with 1016 views | NeathJack |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 18:49 - May 7 by jacksinceever |
You really are one strange sad truly miserable individual.
I like many had misgivings about this appointment.
However now it has been confirmed, I will be 100% behind Garry and the team.
The last thing any true supporter of the club would want to is to hope that they are proved right by a manager or any other individual within the club failing.
Grow up or better still go and support someone else |
If he's a genuine Swansea fan then I'm a dyed in the wool Malaysian Redbird.
And for purposes of clarity, I'm not. |  | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:20 - May 7 with 998 views | WarwickHunt |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 19:54 - May 7 by swancity |
Which is the type of remark that people made when we appointed Brendan Rodgers and Roberto Martinez. You're not very bright are you fair play. |
Pretty rich for someone who couldn't find his cock with both hands. |  | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:22 - May 7 with 989 views | Starsky |
I was disappointed that we didn't bring someone else in but if some of you guys on this thread continue with your griping, you're going to back yourselves into a corner so much, its going spoil your enjoyment next seaon.
Imagine rushing home from the match to post on here next time Garry fecks up so that you can say you were right all along?
Let's get behind him and cut him some slack. |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:28 - May 7 with 965 views | littleleon |
Will Man Utd appoint Giggs as manager? No! Neither should we have appointed Monk - ambitious Premier league clubs wouldn't/shouldn't make this type of appointment. This is a championship type of appointment at best and that's prob where we'll be in 12 months time. Managers should learn their trade/prove themselves at a lower level first(as did Brendan and Martinez). I worry we'll end up like Norwich have done this year! It'll end on a sour note!! Monk has clearly shown his naivety/inexperience tactically during games in a number of games this season(palace at home, west broom at home, villa at home & others)
Not happy, but I'll do my best to get behind him and the team and support him all the way from now on. |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:31 - May 7 with 955 views | AngelRangelQS |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:28 - May 7 by littleleon |
Will Man Utd appoint Giggs as manager? No! Neither should we have appointed Monk - ambitious Premier league clubs wouldn't/shouldn't make this type of appointment. This is a championship type of appointment at best and that's prob where we'll be in 12 months time. Managers should learn their trade/prove themselves at a lower level first(as did Brendan and Martinez). I worry we'll end up like Norwich have done this year! It'll end on a sour note!! Monk has clearly shown his naivety/inexperience tactically during games in a number of games this season(palace at home, west broom at home, villa at home & others)
Not happy, but I'll do my best to get behind him and the team and support him all the way from now on. |
Yeah f*cking clueless against villa | | | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:34 - May 7 with 938 views | C_jack |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:22 - May 7 by Starsky |
I was disappointed that we didn't bring someone else in but if some of you guys on this thread continue with your griping, you're going to back yourselves into a corner so much, its going spoil your enjoyment next seaon.
Imagine rushing home from the match to post on here next time Garry fecks up so that you can say you were right all along?
Let's get behind him and cut him some slack. |
It'll be difficult to out pace the pack that will be rushing here when we win 1 game, to proclaim that they were right all along.. [Post edited 7 May 2014 20:34]
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:34 - May 7 with 937 views | Darran |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:28 - May 7 by littleleon |
Will Man Utd appoint Giggs as manager? No! Neither should we have appointed Monk - ambitious Premier league clubs wouldn't/shouldn't make this type of appointment. This is a championship type of appointment at best and that's prob where we'll be in 12 months time. Managers should learn their trade/prove themselves at a lower level first(as did Brendan and Martinez). I worry we'll end up like Norwich have done this year! It'll end on a sour note!! Monk has clearly shown his naivety/inexperience tactically during games in a number of games this season(palace at home, west broom at home, villa at home & others)
Not happy, but I'll do my best to get behind him and the team and support him all the way from now on. |
We beat Villa 4-1 mun weren't you happy? | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:35 - May 7 with 929 views | SwansNZ |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 16:57 - May 7 by pierre91 |
...Clotet holds the UEFA pro license and as the Assistant Manager that is sufficient as GM is enrolled and working toward the same qualification.
As for all the negative naysayers and doom predictors I say this.
Our Board, and Chairman (NOT DoF, that's just social media bollocks) have a track record over the past 10yrs of getting their Managerial choices right. Don't you believe they deserve some trust?
We've gone four seasons the PL,the so-called "hardest League in the world." We've won our first ever major trophy.
All you keyboard critics (I need not list them) really need to grow up - your knowledge is miniscule and your opinions are preposterous. ( I should, as an IRONIC touch-look it up) insert here that it's "just my opinion" which it is - after all, what does my opinion matter more than yours?
Put it like this, people who support our Club - that's all of us- will judge the outcome on things like continued progress. I like to think that most readers and posters on this GB think much the same.
As for all you Grima (WormTongue) types who bleat on about the "cheap option" and other irrelevancies, you can can kiss my one, true, ring.(See what I did there?) No?
Ah well. Onwards Swansea City, let's look forward to yet another riveting, exciting season. STID. |
Agree.
I didn't really agree with the sacking of ML, and while I don’t exactly agree with Monk being given the job full time, nor the choice of his assistant, but it has f**k all to do with me really. I’ll support whoever is in charge, I just don’t get this constant moaning and criticising of current players and manager. Get behind the team, eh!
Good luck Garry |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:36 - May 7 with 926 views | Trundle10 |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 19:41 - May 7 by exiledclaseboy |
Yeah, his subs are rubbish and when he makes one that works (twice) he got lucky.
You couldn't make this sh*t up, you really couldn't. |
He tried Lita (did not work) he tried Vazquez (did not work) he tried Ngog(did not work) he tried Emnes (worked) So he tried Emnes again (worked). Hardly a tactical genius is he? |  | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:37 - May 7 with 922 views | Oldjack |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:34 - May 7 by Darran |
We beat Villa 4-1 mun weren't you happy? |
It seems ickle leon has lost his way somewhat ,i'll give him WB |  |
| Prosser the Tosser dwells on Phil's bum hole like a rusty old hemorrhoid ,fact
You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:51 - May 7 with 876 views | Daggyjack |
So every sub that ever comes on in a game automatically changes the game?
To be fair to Monk, he hasn't really had a great deal of choice when it comes to bringing subs on (except a game I seem to remember where he didn't bring Dyer on but maybe he wasn't 100%). Ngog, Emnes, Vazquez and Lita weren't signed by Monk and it will be interesting to see the calibre of player Monk brings (or is allowed to bring) to the club in the summer. [Post edited 7 May 2014 20:51]
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:56 - May 7 with 858 views | Starsky |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:34 - May 7 by C_jack |
It'll be difficult to out pace the pack that will be rushing here when we win 1 game, to proclaim that they were right all along.. [Post edited 7 May 2014 20:34]
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Oh aye. That'll be just as bad. | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:02 - May 7 with 835 views | Davillin |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 17:40 - May 7 by C_jack |
So why are we (most likely) the first ever Premier League club, in over 20 years to appoint a complete novice permanently? Surely using your argument that experience counts for nothing, other clubs would have worked out this genius plan a fair while ago.
There are no guarantees, but there are better guarantees than others. Why did Palace hire Tony Pulis instead of giving the job to Danny Gabbidon?
So we don't hire a manager that's best fit to manage the club. We hire a manager that is the best fit for the board, and gives them less hassle. Seriously backwards approach. |
Your sense of History is somewhat slanted or selective.
Martinez' experience before managing Swasnsea -- Zero.
Sousa - a year at QPR.
Rodgers - depends on whether you believe him or the facts - a year at Watford, sacked from Reading after half a season,
Laudrup - depends on whether you believe him, or Avromule, or the facts -- reportedly sacked from previous clubs [or "mutual consent"].
Managing novices all when we hired them. |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:02 - May 7 with 830 views | somersetsimon |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 13:54 - May 7 by Darran |
I wouldn't have given him a 3 year contract is have given him a rolling one. |
I'm not convinced it's the right appointment, but if that's their decision they have to give the manager their full support by offering a decent length of contract. A short or rolling contract would be admitting that they weren't sure. |  | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:03 - May 7 with 827 views | NeathJack |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 20:36 - May 7 by Trundle10 |
He tried Lita (did not work) he tried Vazquez (did not work) he tried Ngog(did not work) he tried Emnes (worked) So he tried Emnes again (worked). Hardly a tactical genius is he? |
Hardly got a lot to work with there either has he? | | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:09 - May 7 with 798 views | C_jack |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:02 - May 7 by Davillin |
Your sense of History is somewhat slanted or selective.
Martinez' experience before managing Swasnsea -- Zero.
Sousa - a year at QPR.
Rodgers - depends on whether you believe him or the facts - a year at Watford, sacked from Reading after half a season,
Laudrup - depends on whether you believe him, or Avromule, or the facts -- reportedly sacked from previous clubs [or "mutual consent"].
Managing novices all when we hired them. |
Dav, with respect those points have all been made many times and dispelled convincingly each time.
The appointment of Martinez and Rodgers are not comparable, not to mention your own selective sense of history behind them, considering where the club was at the time. | |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:13 - May 7 with 778 views | londonlisa2001 |
This thread has finally moved me to post for the first time in many years. A number of people have commented that they could tell that Roberto, Rodgers or Laudrup were going to be a success after 10 games and that they can tell that Garry Monk won't be after his games in charge. (I'm ignoring here some spectacular reworking of the comments that were made after certainly the first two of these appointments).
They seem to be deliberately missing one crucial difference - Roberto, Rodgers etc had a preseason to assess the squad, select the players that they wanted to add to that squad and implement the training style and tactics that they wanted without the interruption of crucial games once or twice a week. Garry Monk has not yet had this opportunity.
He took over a squad that was already in place - no additions were possible, and any changing of training, tactics etc have been restricted to an extent by the games to be played and the need for survival points.
No one can know what the team or playing style will look like until he has had a chance to choose his own players and work with the squad through a preseason. It's an easy criticism to say that the Board have chosen a cheap option, or should have looked to 'insert name of previously famous player' instead but if the appointment does work, and no one can say at this stage whether it will or not, then it could bring a much needed few years of stability to the club.
It may prove to be a mistake, in which case we can be sure that action would be taken, but some of the vitriol being spouted here is utterly without foundation. Surely the one thing that the club deserves is support - that doesn't mean that concern shouldn't be expressed, but comments such as 'we are definitely going to go down' or 'I can't wait to be proved right' are a disgrace. | | | |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:16 - May 7 with 779 views | Jackfath |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:13 - May 7 by londonlisa2001 |
This thread has finally moved me to post for the first time in many years. A number of people have commented that they could tell that Roberto, Rodgers or Laudrup were going to be a success after 10 games and that they can tell that Garry Monk won't be after his games in charge. (I'm ignoring here some spectacular reworking of the comments that were made after certainly the first two of these appointments).
They seem to be deliberately missing one crucial difference - Roberto, Rodgers etc had a preseason to assess the squad, select the players that they wanted to add to that squad and implement the training style and tactics that they wanted without the interruption of crucial games once or twice a week. Garry Monk has not yet had this opportunity.
He took over a squad that was already in place - no additions were possible, and any changing of training, tactics etc have been restricted to an extent by the games to be played and the need for survival points.
No one can know what the team or playing style will look like until he has had a chance to choose his own players and work with the squad through a preseason. It's an easy criticism to say that the Board have chosen a cheap option, or should have looked to 'insert name of previously famous player' instead but if the appointment does work, and no one can say at this stage whether it will or not, then it could bring a much needed few years of stability to the club.
It may prove to be a mistake, in which case we can be sure that action would be taken, but some of the vitriol being spouted here is utterly without foundation. Surely the one thing that the club deserves is support - that doesn't mean that concern shouldn't be expressed, but comments such as 'we are definitely going to go down' or 'I can't wait to be proved right' are a disgrace. |
Well said Lisa and may I take this opportunity to say how smashing you're looking tonight. |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:17 - May 7 with 773 views | Dr_Winston |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:02 - May 7 by Davillin |
Your sense of History is somewhat slanted or selective.
Martinez' experience before managing Swasnsea -- Zero.
Sousa - a year at QPR.
Rodgers - depends on whether you believe him or the facts - a year at Watford, sacked from Reading after half a season,
Laudrup - depends on whether you believe him, or Avromule, or the facts -- reportedly sacked from previous clubs [or "mutual consent"].
Managing novices all when we hired them. |
Martinez had no experience it's true, but Swansea were not in the Premier League when they appointed him.
Sousa had a year at QPR and three years experience of coaching in the Portuguese National system.
Rodgers and Laudrup had well over 20 years combined experience of coaching and management at various levels.
Monk has fifteen games. Of which he's won four. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:17 - May 7 with 767 views | Shaky |
For me this is easily the worst of a string of questionable decisions I have witnessed the club making, but now that it has been taken nothing remains but to wish Monk the best of luck.
When the going gets tough, the tough get going! |  |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:19 - May 7 with 751 views | Davillin |
| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:17 - May 7 by Dr_Winston |
Martinez had no experience it's true, but Swansea were not in the Premier League when they appointed him.
Sousa had a year at QPR and three years experience of coaching in the Portuguese National system.
Rodgers and Laudrup had well over 20 years combined experience of coaching and management at various levels.
Monk has fifteen games. Of which he's won four. |
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| The official Garry's got the job debate thread on 21:23 - May 7 with 729 views | RevJames |
It's only one game but let's see if GM can rid the players of the 'end of season' / nothing on it' syndrome that could be rife against Sunderland.
It they don't turn up mentally, we could be on the end of a good tuning so start (officially) as you mean to go on Garry and make EVERY game count. | | | |
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