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Reply | Fans Parliament
at 23:16 31 May 2015
TT - AKA The Shameless One.
How many times has this BSA (Closed Shop) Committee member used the word 'democracy' in this thread.
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Reply | Fans Parliament
at 23:24 23 May 2015
Nothing to lose except -
#Undermining the work of BST
#Giving the owners another yet another shield to hide behind. Before it was 'direct all complaints to BSA' (who STILL have a BFC postal address by the way) to deflect criticism, we would have something similar with the 'Fans Parliament', basically a get out of jail card for him to continually play like he did before.
#Allowing Karl to once more, which he cannot now, to say he regularly listens to fans.
#Undermining the protests and demos
Terminal basically wants to keep talking forever, even as Blackpool falls out of the Conference and the bulldozers move in he would chase Karl across the car park and ask for a 'quick word'. |
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Reply | Fans Parliament
at 21:31 23 May 2015
TT- My God you are utterly shameless.
"anyone who wants to see an end to the war and return to putting football first is 'an apologist' Phil? "
You hijack the slogan of BST and try to make yourself look like Ghandi. You are Neville Chamberlain.
The despair is your idiocy and the handful like you. Thousands of fans are working to CHANGE the status quo ,it is YOU who seems very happy to maintain it. It is the Oystons that are making the club unsupportable NOT the fans. Double relegation beckons - and what action do you expect to see this summer from the Oystons?
Meanwhile you want to help them open another talking shop -you couldn't make it up.
BST and the TK's are working very hard to change the status quo, so either get on board or out of the way. |
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Reply | Fans Parliament
at 21:17 23 May 2015
Wronga- "The new Fans Parliament would be as well coming on a forum like this and seeking ALL views not just the disenchanted. "
I don't know a single fan who is not disenchanted, do you?
Quite an arrogant remark saying you would talk with the Oystons because you want the best for the club -what, like the rest of us don't ?
You also say BSA were in too much agreeance- well they didn't get their way either and if you think a few extra strong words will make a difference when protests, demos and literally YEARS of discussions haven't made a jot of difference then you really need to give your head a shake.
You also overlook the fact that the positions aren't elected by fans themselves but selected by the club (if you buy the independent panel guff then I give up).
So in summary you expect 12 fans who meet just 4 times a year with the club to somehow miraculously turn things around. 
Let me ask you something, have you attended a single protest or demonstration, joined BST, attended a single supporters meeting, written a single letter, contacted the media, your MP or the club directly?
Or do you sit in the west and say shush when there are anti-oyston chants?
Honest answer.
The reason I ask is this "I now want an end to the anarchic side of the protests."
Those protests are by your fellow fans, and have been largely restrained. Even the most extreme, on the final day, were described as largely peaceful by the police -if this was Spain or Italy things would be at a wholly different level I'm sure.
The protests will only end when the Oystons leave -no amount of talking will change that, so accept it, that's the reality. So what have you done to back your fellow fans? [Post edited 23 May 2015 21:35]
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Reply | Fans Parliament
at 19:24 23 May 2015
TT -Why bring up BST when you knew their position, that WAS disingenuous.
You don't know how close the owners are to selling than anyone else. What we do know is this-.
Their circle of support grows ever smaller; losing BSA, their puppet Lee Clark, national and indeed international media castigating their stewardship, thousands of fans walking away, sponsors pulling out, protests , demos, a pitch invasion, fans storming the Director's box, FA charges, more court cases pending, Valerie Belokon legal action, their reputation within the footballing world at an all time low, ex-players and mangers adding to the chorus -ALL this and much more at a time when the last of the money has gone -no more parachute payments.
If ever their was a time for them to leave it's now. YET at this point you want to give them a break???
Regardless of whether they leave or not -the Oystons must be held accountable for their actions as I have already said. Nobody welcomes this toxicity, the Oystons have created it and have done nothing to ease it -quite the reverse, they have appeared happy to ratchet things up.
Bizarrely you also seem to think the Oystons don't know what needs to be done, they need telling. Are you completely insane?? Even 20's that bulwark of obstinacy has finally conceded that the time for talk is OVER, action is what is required.
The relationship between fans and the club has irretrievably broken down, save for a handful of apologists like yourself who still like to give them yet another chance. If only you had more respect for your fellow fans than you do the owners, you know personally what some of them have been through as a direct result of the Oystons.
Actions have consequences, people have to held accountable. To most fans the club is now dead, the football immaterial -what is there left to support? Eleven random figures running around for a season before being released, no ambition, no investment and any success marred by the fact the clubs reputation has been dragged through the dirt and any riches will in all likelihood be diverted away again.
So what are you supporting?
The spirit of the club is gone. It will only return when the Oystons are gone -not matter how long it takes or what division we are in, that's when supporters will return and will be united again. Until that day the fight goes on. |
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Reply | Fans Parliament
at 16:38 23 May 2015
Another utterly disingenuous reply from you Terminal.
The only dialogue BST want is the Oystons exit as you well know, and as they have stated openly.
Most fans want the Oystons gone as you also know. Yet you seem eager to accommodate the owners once again.
You should hang your hang in shame for backing talks with the Oystons long after most fans had woken up to the fact it was pointless. BSA provided a useful shield for the owners.
Even now you still haven't learnt your lesson, you want to help them build another..
You are part of the problem. |
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Reply | Fans Parliament
at 14:58 23 May 2015
You really are like a fifth columnist in our midst Terminaltangerine.
You seem to have no memory of events over recent years or recent months and no concept whatsoever of accountability (given you were on the wholly undemocratic BSA committee, hardly surprising).
The owners deserve nothing but our contempt and isolation, they made their bed. Whether they leave or not, their actions should have consequences.
Like an insane person you think repeatedly doing the same thing will somehow have a different result, dialogue has FAILED, wake up. Most fans don't want the owners to have yet another human shield to hide behind, try supporting your fellow fans for a change, rather than encouraging a sit down with someone who is happy suing them. |
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Reply | Foolish to think Riga takes no blame
at 21:40 17 Feb 2015
The o/p is either a WUM or completely clueless -take your pick.
The responsibility lies with the owners -end of story. |
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Reply | OT : Greek tragedy?
at 18:13 26 Jan 2015
"Unholy Anti-Austerity Alliance that has emerged from their elections yesterday. "
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You mean a democratically elected party that backs the people who want an end to the crushing austerity measures the Troika has imposed.
If those measures had been imposed on Britain there would be a revolution never mind a new government. |
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Reply | Football league paper
at 08:56 22 Jan 2015
Quite the contrast with an unforgettable cartoon.
A VERY scathing article.
Will Karl sue the author? Or is it just fans that are sued? |
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Reply | BSA ditch KO
at 19:34 11 Jan 2015
The Meet the Manager is still listed for tomorrow, just checked on the BSA website.
Shouldn't that have been updated to say it was cancelled? |
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Reply | BSA ditch KO
at 21:50 10 Jan 2015
It certainly has been very clear for years Voy, been posting as much for years.
Retalliated already apparently by cancelling the meet with the manager, more to come no doubt. A change of postal address required.
The fans are more united than ever now though, just have to draw a line under the past and move forward together. [Post edited 10 Jan 2015 21:53]
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Reply | BSA ditch KO
at 11:15 10 Jan 2015
Fantastic news (albeit long overdue), which has unsurprisingly received a great reception. Now fans can move forward together, UNITED.
UTP |
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Reply | Clark should play Telford and Waddington today
at 11:08 10 Jan 2015
Agreed.
Meanwhile, other youth team players have arrived, pleased to get 'experience' here, whilst our own are turned away from their own training ground.
Some 'relegation battle'   |
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Reply | THE FUTURE
at 11:44 7 Jan 2015
TT "(But have a peanut on me!) " , a phrase you have used more than once, picked that up from anyone in particular? Not one I would ever use, especially if one doesn't know which ethnic group I was speaking to.
Apathy is a big problem 20's, which is why I have always said it very important to involve fans as much as possible. People turn off if they feel there is nothing they can do, or that their opinion won't be heard. |
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