| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? 20:43 - Jul 16 with 15673 views | GloryHunter |
Weather's getting me down now. We were promised vineyards, sunflowers, siestas, the lot. I even had to turn the heating on last night - in July! And don't tell me it's all explained by the "man-made climate change" theory, because it bloody well isn't. The mad greenies told us 20 years ago we'd be frying by now, and they were WRONG. So how come we actually have a Government department of "Energy and CLIMATE CHANGE"? Has there ever before been a government department based on a complete myth - like the department for slaying dragons and unicorns, for example? |  | | |  |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 00:16 - Jul 17 with 1147 views | TheBlob |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 00:08 - Jul 17 by CiderwithRsie |
"Stop concentrating on the symptoms.Once you address the population problem all of your "symptoms" will be alleviated."
Now you're just saying stuff I agree with to annoy me. |
It's amazing about scientists isn't it?Nobody had a good word for them until it was politically expedient.And now certain parties hang on their very words.There are trillions,yes trillions of dollars to be earned out of this.Go figure.
Whatever happens,the human race is screwed.Time to spread the seed elsewhere,not as a natural progression but as a last resort.
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 00:22 - Jul 17 with 1138 views | CHUBBS |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 00:16 - Jul 17 by TheBlob |
It's amazing about scientists isn't it?Nobody had a good word for them until it was politically expedient.And now certain parties hang on their very words.There are trillions,yes trillions of dollars to be earned out of this.Go figure.
Whatever happens,the human race is screwed.Time to spread the seed elsewhere,not as a natural progression but as a last resort.
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Branson might have a few places left on his ship.I think uranus might be a good place to start  |  | | |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 00:27 - Jul 17 with 1136 views | TheBlob |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 00:22 - Jul 17 by CHUBBS |
Branson might have a few places left on his ship.I think uranus might be a good place to start |
Apparently there's a ring around Uranus.
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 01:43 - Jul 17 with 1117 views | Trance_Trousers |
Mother nature will right all wrongs, she always has a habit of doing it. |  |
| Once you`ve had black you never go back......... |
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 06:48 - Jul 17 with 1104 views | hoopstilidie |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 23:51 - Jul 16 by CiderwithRsie |
Hey Blob, I get a good laugh out of 90% of what you post on here so I'm not going to get into a fight with you, but you're not taking in what I'm saying.
I'm not trying to convince you of man-made global warming. What's the point if you don't believe thousands of proper qualified scientists and are happy to dismiss them as bent? I've said it at least twice - it's happening, so you prove to me it's not caused by man. I don't need to prove anything - there already is a department of climate change. More importantly, the Chinese accept it and are acting accordingly. |
"I've said it at least twice - it's happening, so you prove to me it's not caused by man."
Because the last significant period of climate change led to the raising of sea levels in Scandinavia forcing the Vikings to look further afield (i.e pillaging etc) and I think I can pretty much conclusively prove that they weren't travelling the known World in V8 powered longships.
Natural recurring Earth cycle, nothing more and nothing less.*
* Unless you have a vested interest.
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 07:09 - Jul 17 with 1096 views | isawqpratwcity |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 06:48 - Jul 17 by hoopstilidie |
"I've said it at least twice - it's happening, so you prove to me it's not caused by man."
Because the last significant period of climate change led to the raising of sea levels in Scandinavia forcing the Vikings to look further afield (i.e pillaging etc) and I think I can pretty much conclusively prove that they weren't travelling the known World in V8 powered longships.
Natural recurring Earth cycle, nothing more and nothing less.*
* Unless you have a vested interest.
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Are you sure you're right, hoopstid?
If you're wrong, it's your daughter's, and her kids' world that's stuffed. |  |
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 07:28 - Jul 17 with 1088 views | hoopstilidie |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 07:09 - Jul 17 by isawqpratwcity |
Are you sure you're right, hoopstid?
If you're wrong, it's your daughter's, and her kids' world that's stuffed. |
Well the blame for climate change has been levelled squarely at the foot of carbon emissions. While, undoubtedly, this will exacerbate matters the argument is by how much? There is not a single unbiased report I have seen that convinces me that it has been effected by anywhere near enough to make the tiniest bit of difference.
It's an inalienable fact that climate change has occurred throughout history. Feel free to look up the Holocene epoch, particularly the late stages, or the Huelmo/Mascardi Cold Reversal, The hypsithermal, the Medieval Warm Period, even the Eemian Stage and so on and so on and so on. Show me how any of those were man-made.
In answer to your question "are you sure you're right?", yes,for me, I'm sure enough. | |
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 07:32 - Jul 17 with 1084 views | Westy75 |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 06:48 - Jul 17 by hoopstilidie |
"I've said it at least twice - it's happening, so you prove to me it's not caused by man."
Because the last significant period of climate change led to the raising of sea levels in Scandinavia forcing the Vikings to look further afield (i.e pillaging etc) and I think I can pretty much conclusively prove that they weren't travelling the known World in V8 powered longships.
Natural recurring Earth cycle, nothing more and nothing less.*
* Unless you have a vested interest.
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Basically it comes down to whether you believe 99% of climatologists whose full-time job consists of poring over the data and coming to an evidence-based conclusion or "The world according to Clarkson".
I know who my money's on....
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 07:38 - Jul 17 with 1080 views | hoopstilidie |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 07:32 - Jul 17 by Westy75 |
Basically it comes down to whether you believe 99% of climatologists whose full-time job consists of poring over the data and coming to an evidence-based conclusion or "The world according to Clarkson".
I know who my money's on....
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You can insult me all you like. Doesn't alter evidence. (collated by those same climatologists).
You are confusing cause and effect. Nobody is denying climate change, just man's complicity in it.
Anyway, I know how these threads can descend, your little dig there is generally the kind of thing that starts it.
I answered with my thoughts on the post before yours.
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 08:53 - Jul 17 with 1061 views | Lewes_r |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 07:32 - Jul 17 by Westy75 |
Basically it comes down to whether you believe 99% of climatologists whose full-time job consists of poring over the data and coming to an evidence-based conclusion or "The world according to Clarkson".
I know who my money's on....
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Stop talking sense.. I dont like it when you put it like that.. Those climatolagists are all bent anyway! |  |
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 08:56 - Jul 17 with 1056 views | TheBlob |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 08:53 - Jul 17 by Lewes_r |
Stop talking sense.. I dont like it when you put it like that.. Those climatolagists are all bent anyway! |
There was a crooked man, and he walked a crooked mile.
He found a crooked sixpence against a crooked stile.
He bought a crooked cat, which caught a crooked mouse,
And they all lived together in a little crooked house. | |
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 08:59 - Jul 17 with 1052 views | loftboy |
We could have zero emissions here and it would make no difference whilst 3 rd world countries are going through an industrial revolution and pumping out untreated shit by the factory load, we are being taxed to the hilt to pay for the rest of the worlds mistakes ATAF |  |
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 09:06 - Jul 17 with 1046 views | westolian |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 01:43 - Jul 17 by Trance_Trousers |
Mother nature will right all wrongs, she always has a habit of doing it. |
Prove it ! |  |
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 09:17 - Jul 17 with 983 views | derbyhoop |
I'm convinced there is climate change. But, the symptoms, as I understand it, include wetter Summers and drier Winters.
We had a very dry winter, hence the introduction of hosepipe bans at the start of the Summer.
March was the warmest on record
April and June the wettest.
Might not be proof, but it is significant. |  |
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 09:36 - Jul 17 with 976 views | GloryHunter |
"The last big "something else" idea was sunspot activity. Which has been conclusively proved to be irrelevant."
The thing about science is that nothing can be ever "conclusively proved" - any theory or hypothesis is subject to scrutiny and challenge. That's why the warmists' claim that, "the science is settled", is BS, and politically-motivated. | | | |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 09:51 - Jul 17 with 963 views | Metallica_Hoop |
I don't belive in it (seen both arguements) however I wont knock people for beliving it just do not tell me I need to recycle.
Population is the real problem it needs to be addressed, especially in this country. |  |
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 10:00 - Jul 17 with 954 views | R_from_afar |
Well now you have made me climb out of my pram!
CO2 is a greenhouse gas, that is undeniable. We are emitting an enormous amount of it, with CO2 emissions up about 3% last year. So…..
97% of climate scientists are convinced climate change is manmade. If you want to believe and support the 3%, go ahead but don’t be too vocal because you could seriously embarrass yourself.
As far as the recent global weather is concerned, it is not possible to make a firm link between that and climate change but the experts are saying climate change increases the likelihood of such extreme events. The heatwaves and droughts in Texas, for example, are 20 times more likely to occur now than they were 50 years ago.
The last time there was this much CO2 in the atmosphere, sea levels rose 20 metres. If you bear in mind that one metre of sea level rise can take the sea 10 metres inland due to the slope of the shore — not all shores are sheer cliffs — that is grave news indeed. Further bad news is that about 20% of CO2 stays in the atmosphere forever, and the 80% which does dissipate can take 300 years to do so.
Also, don’t let so-called experts persuade you that “climate mitigation” is a simple solution. Those two words sound so comforting when these fools glibly utter them but what they mean in reality is taking, as an example, the parts of London along the Thames and moving them all somewhere else. Even Annika Rice and Jimmy Saville together would struggle to achieve that.
So, you can accept that mankind is changing our climate and do something about it or you can stick your head in the sand along with George Osborne and the Tory backbenchers amongst many others of all political persuasions but if you do, make sure you prepare your excuses for your grandchildren for when they ask you what you did to try and stop it.
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2012/20120710_stateoftheclimatereport.html
RFA
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 10:01 - Jul 17 with 952 views | R_from_afar |
Actually, my post just now was meant to be a general one, not one levelled at any one poster here. D'oh!
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| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 10:21 - Jul 17 with 933 views | doogi55 |
its a waste of time china and usa pump out more carbon than the rest of the world so what we could save is means nothing just an excuse to charge more tax.the airport tax bought in cut the amout of people from flying and then they want to build a second runway. |  | | |
| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 10:55 - Jul 17 with 1112 views | Lewes_r |
Not really going to bother niggling about percentages..rather look at the larger theme ...
To say climate change (a warmer world) would be a good thing for humans is utterly nuts (especially if you live in Bangladesh)
Manatees and Anacondas are looking forward to it though [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| When's this Global Warming supposed to be happening? on 11:02 - Jul 17 with 1104 views | GloryHunter |
Increased levels of CO2 are a RESULT of higher temperature, not the CAUSE of it.
This stuff about 97% of cimate scientists agree is very shaky statistics - the opinions of the climate scientists who don't agree are not included in the IPPC reports. | | | |
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