Was it a try 14:54 - Feb 23 with 515 views | trampie | If they had said that Ellis Mee no try was because his arm was in touch before the ball was grounded I could have accepted that but I thought the grounding was OK, no separation and there was downward pressure, the point of the 'rugby' ball was short but as the ball toppled forward he kept his hand and pressure on it. England in their match then get a try that looked held up and the ref didn't even go upstairs to check, such are the small margins between winning and losing. |  |
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Was it a try on 16:07 - Feb 23 with 467 views | union_jack | I thought they said the downward pressure was short (as you said) then he took his hand off, repositioned his fingers and moved the ball forward, hence the knock on decision. As you say, small margins and incredibly unlucky. |  |
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Was it a try on 17:12 - Feb 23 with 439 views | trampie |
Was it a try on 16:07 - Feb 23 by union_jack | I thought they said the downward pressure was short (as you said) then he took his hand off, repositioned his fingers and moved the ball forward, hence the knock on decision. As you say, small margins and incredibly unlucky. |
I never seen his fingers lose contact with the ball, I was watching for it but I didn't see any separation, the Irish got away with it if that had stood you never know we might have won. Ironically enough the on field decision was try, the ref initially atleast you would think was happy with the grounding but as regards being in touch it would be difficult for the ref to know and in the end it wasn't disallowed for being in touch but the grounding, perhaps the English ref has an Irish granny or something who knows, we always seem to get done by English refs. |  |
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Was it a try on 17:33 - Feb 23 with 388 views | union_jack |
Was it a try on 17:12 - Feb 23 by trampie | I never seen his fingers lose contact with the ball, I was watching for it but I didn't see any separation, the Irish got away with it if that had stood you never know we might have won. Ironically enough the on field decision was try, the ref initially atleast you would think was happy with the grounding but as regards being in touch it would be difficult for the ref to know and in the end it wasn't disallowed for being in touch but the grounding, perhaps the English ref has an Irish granny or something who knows, we always seem to get done by English refs. |
Get that chip off your shoulder man! You could see the separation when the TMO was deliberating. Minimal I agree but that’s all it has to be. As I said, unlucky. |  |
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Was it a try on 17:41 - Feb 23 with 367 views | trampie |
Was it a try on 17:33 - Feb 23 by union_jack | Get that chip off your shoulder man! You could see the separation when the TMO was deliberating. Minimal I agree but that’s all it has to be. As I said, unlucky. |
If I seen any separation I would say so, but i didnt see any separation, im not aware anybody saying there was separation when i was watching the box. I take it from what you say then that you personally seen separation between the player and the ball before it was grounded on the line ? |  |
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Was it a try on 17:58 - Feb 23 with 338 views | union_jack |
Was it a try on 17:41 - Feb 23 by trampie | If I seen any separation I would say so, but i didnt see any separation, im not aware anybody saying there was separation when i was watching the box. I take it from what you say then that you personally seen separation between the player and the ball before it was grounded on the line ? |
On the tv yes. His fingers moved appearing like a separation. I’d like it to have been given as well but cameras pick almost everything up these days. |  |
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Was it a try on 19:28 - Feb 23 with 277 views | trampie |
Was it a try on 17:58 - Feb 23 by union_jack | On the tv yes. His fingers moved appearing like a separation. I’d like it to have been given as well but cameras pick almost everything up these days. |
I hope you are not lying, I've come across people online that lie not to be seen to be wrong, I hope that is not you ?, that would be most disappointing if so, although you don't like my views I hope you are not fibbing because I don't fib. I haven't seen any separation looking at videos online, I visited a rugby site that banned me for supporting my village team and having a go at the super clubs or regions as they call them and nobody said they seen seperation on there and lots of them dont like team Wales on there, one poster said about no separation and another about how could it be a knock on when his hand or should I say fingers never left the ball, which was my thoughts, somebody else said grounding ok but might have been in touch, my thoughts as well, so I don't know what you think you saw but i didn't see any separation and although I could be wrong I don't lie. [Post edited 23 Feb 19:35]
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Was it a try on 19:41 - Feb 23 with 251 views | union_jack |
Was it a try on 19:28 - Feb 23 by trampie | I hope you are not lying, I've come across people online that lie not to be seen to be wrong, I hope that is not you ?, that would be most disappointing if so, although you don't like my views I hope you are not fibbing because I don't fib. I haven't seen any separation looking at videos online, I visited a rugby site that banned me for supporting my village team and having a go at the super clubs or regions as they call them and nobody said they seen seperation on there and lots of them dont like team Wales on there, one poster said about no separation and another about how could it be a knock on when his hand or should I say fingers never left the ball, which was my thoughts, somebody else said grounding ok but might have been in touch, my thoughts as well, so I don't know what you think you saw but i didn't see any separation and although I could be wrong I don't lie. [Post edited 23 Feb 19:35]
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If there was any doubt about it, don’t you think the entire Welsh press woukd be all over it calling the ref, Lino, TMO etc. cheats?? There nothing I can see other than it being called a “fiendishly close call” in one newspaper. Now, why would I lie about this? Are you ok, because you sound just a little bit stressed out by it all? If I was mistaken, then so was the TMO and comms / pundits. Calm down a little before launching a tirade like that, it reflects badly on you. |  |
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Was it a try on 19:52 - Feb 23 with 221 views | trampie |
Was it a try on 19:41 - Feb 23 by union_jack | If there was any doubt about it, don’t you think the entire Welsh press woukd be all over it calling the ref, Lino, TMO etc. cheats?? There nothing I can see other than it being called a “fiendishly close call” in one newspaper. Now, why would I lie about this? Are you ok, because you sound just a little bit stressed out by it all? If I was mistaken, then so was the TMO and comms / pundits. Calm down a little before launching a tirade like that, it reflects badly on you. |
I saw no evidence that it was a knock on, I don't think the try should have been ruled out for the grounding. As regards you you personally think that there was separation and you would have ruled the try out for the grounding if it was upto you on what you have seen ? [Post edited 23 Feb 19:53]
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Was it a try on 19:59 - Feb 23 with 193 views | union_jack |
Was it a try on 19:52 - Feb 23 by trampie | I saw no evidence that it was a knock on, I don't think the try should have been ruled out for the grounding. As regards you you personally think that there was separation and you would have ruled the try out for the grounding if it was upto you on what you have seen ? [Post edited 23 Feb 19:53]
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I just found a video of it and it was harsh I’ll admit. When I saw it yesterday it was analysed a bit more and I was sure there was (the tiniest) bit of separation which no one would have seen. Now, looking at it again but without the forensic views of it what I did see was the ball grounded short then pushed forward with no downward pressure. Therefore a knock on. Before TMO that’s a try every day. TMO spots the smallest of infringements however. I would have loved it to be awarded and that would have made Wales favourites at that stage maybe. Whether Ireland could have dug deep late in the game we’ll never know. |  |
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Was it a try on 20:12 - Feb 23 with 174 views | trampie |
Was it a try on 19:59 - Feb 23 by union_jack | I just found a video of it and it was harsh I’ll admit. When I saw it yesterday it was analysed a bit more and I was sure there was (the tiniest) bit of separation which no one would have seen. Now, looking at it again but without the forensic views of it what I did see was the ball grounded short then pushed forward with no downward pressure. Therefore a knock on. Before TMO that’s a try every day. TMO spots the smallest of infringements however. I would have loved it to be awarded and that would have made Wales favourites at that stage maybe. Whether Ireland could have dug deep late in the game we’ll never know. |
If you want an impartial view butt, just ask me, I don't get influenced and an not biased, yes I want Wales to win but am never biased so if you want an impartial view on anything, politics sport etc just ask me I will be glad to help. |  |
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Was it a try on 20:13 - Feb 23 with 165 views | union_jack |
Was it a try on 20:12 - Feb 23 by trampie | If you want an impartial view butt, just ask me, I don't get influenced and an not biased, yes I want Wales to win but am never biased so if you want an impartial view on anything, politics sport etc just ask me I will be glad to help. |
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Was it a try on 22:48 - Feb 23 with 71 views | onehunglow |
Was it a try on 19:59 - Feb 23 by union_jack | I just found a video of it and it was harsh I’ll admit. When I saw it yesterday it was analysed a bit more and I was sure there was (the tiniest) bit of separation which no one would have seen. Now, looking at it again but without the forensic views of it what I did see was the ball grounded short then pushed forward with no downward pressure. Therefore a knock on. Before TMO that’s a try every day. TMO spots the smallest of infringements however. I would have loved it to be awarded and that would have made Wales favourites at that stage maybe. Whether Ireland could have dug deep late in the game we’ll never know. |
It was a firkin knock on Not fault of an English ref Personally , always hated Irish refs , like Alain Rolland the festering xxxxx |  |
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