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Carragher Claims Van Dijk's Value Is Dropping !
Tuesday, 19th Dec 2017 09:27

Jamie Carragher is claiming that Virgil Van Dijk's transfer value is dropping, but will this aid the Dutch defenders chances of a move or hinder it.

Liverpool fans are on social media stating that ther club should be putting in a low offer for Virgil Van Dijk in January because in their words "He can't be arsed" meaning that we will now be forced to take a low offer to get shot of him.

Jamie Carragher has had his say on the subject and his views seem to roughly correspond with those of social media on Liverpool twitter feeds etc.

“We are talking about a player who I think Southampton should sell because it hasn’t worked keeping him,” Carragher said.

“The results haven’t been great and Southampton look like they need reinforcements on the pitch."

“So if they bring £50-60m, whatever it may be, back into the club, I think it’s going to help the team because at this moment he’s not. "

“The difference with, say, Liverpool is Philippe Coutinho is playing that well that he’s maybe putting his price up."

“I don’t know if his (Van Dijk’s) is coming down, but he has to get himself right, whether that’s at Southampton between now and the end of the season to keep these clubs interested, or if he’s going to move."

“He’s probably going to play in Champions League football in February, at this moment it’s more Championship football he’s playing than Champions League.”

Funnily enough this corresponds with recent media reports on Merseyside that Liverpool will firstly not be offering the money that was bandied about last summer for Van Dijk and secondly that they would not be intersted unless Saints approached them and offered to sell.

Carraghers comments seem to be in line with the raft of ex Liverpool players in the summer who commented on Van Dijk, most seemed to be spouting a view that was too similar to everyone else's to be co incidence and now this seems to be happening again with Liverpool's favoured media outlets spouting a view which is quickly echoed and expanded by ex Anfield players.

This behaviour back in the summer lead to Liverpool backing off quickly and being forced to not only issue an embarrasing apology, but also being afraid to make an offer for fear of a transfer embargo being placed on them due to their behaviour.

Ultimately although Manchester City's outstanding form means the failure to land Van Dijk probably hasn't cost them any chance of a Premier League title, their defensive frailties could cost them a chance of the Champions League, as was shown at Bournemouth where although they murdered the Cherries going forward, they could easily have conceded a couple, fine when you are aganst lower Premier League clubs, but dangerous when you are playing the cream of Europe.

But from a Liverpool point of view will this aid their attempts to buy Van Dijk or hinder them ?

Certainly their will be Saints fans who will say that Van Dijk is not playing with any sort of commitment, some will also say that is all part of a wider plan to force Saints to sell him in January and that Van Dijk is being encouraged to play badly so that his price will drop and Saints will be forced to cut their losses at a price far less than they could have got back in August.

However if this turned out to be the case and once again Liverpool have attempted to unsettle the player then it could backfire on them as Saints do not have to sell.

With Van Dijk under contract to the club till 2022, Saints still hold all the aces, they have shown they will not be bullied and with Van Dijk under contract till the eve of his 32nd birthday, if Saints do not get the price they want then the question for the player is whether he actually wants to knuckle down and earn a move at the right price or he wants to end his career at St Mary's seeing out his contract.

The reality is though that there will be other clubs come in for him, both Chelsea and Manchester City were linked back in the summer and are now being linked again, they refused to get involved a few months ago because they knew they would only open up an opportunity for Liverpool to make a bid and that they would be left with egg on their face, but the situation has changed now.

But there are now question marks against Van Dijk's attitude, whereas as Jamie Carragher rightly points out Coutinho has got on with playing football, knowing he can't change his situation outside of a transfer window and that good form will ultimately benefit him as it will increase his value and potential earnings, Van Dijk has taken a different route.

The Dutchman has chosen to sulk and try and force a move not by increasing demand in him for his playing prowess, but by trying to force Saints to sell to get shot of him and to do so cheaply.

This is not only a despicable act from a so called professional, but casts doubts as to whether he has the mental attitude needed to cut it at the top level, it might get him a cut price move to Anfield, but it will see the likes of Barcelona etc give him a swerve as they will not see him as having that positive attitude and mental toughness that differenciates a true quality player from an also ran.

Certainly Liverpool have evidence of that in Dejan Lovren, another Saints defender whose behaviour in trying to force a move to Anfield was appalling, ultimately Liverpool paid a big price, not just in transfer fee, but in the fact that Lovren showed that he did not have the balls to cut it in the second tier of the big six, let alone the highest level, perhaps Liverpool might look at that and reflect that anyone willing to give less than 100% for their current club is just as likely to do the same for any future employer, this is a character weakness in the individual, if Van Dijk had pride in himself he would have followed the lead of Phillipe Couthinho and played out of his skin.

So if this is Liverpool or Virgil Van Dijk playing silly games then they are unlikely to find Saints mpressed or willing to play ball, we will sell Van Dijk when it is right for us and that means the price being right as well.

We will not be bullied !

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skiptonsaint added 09:43 - Dec 19
I think the big question is how is he behind the scenes and is his attitude effecting the dressing room ? and we can only guess . Also do we need to sell to buy ? Over to you Mr Gao

IF he does go to Man City then he has a real chance of ending the season with a premier league and possibly champions league medal. That has to be more tempting than going to Liverpool where he could quite possibly never win anything or be playing Champions League next year
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GeordieSaint added 09:57 - Dec 19
I think in all of this it is hard to tell. Virgil seems to be playing reasonably well to me when I have seen him. For those who say he isn't playing like he was you have to remember he is a human being not a machine. It takes a long time to recover from bad injuries and what has he been back? 10 games? Equally it might be time to cash in in we have other players who might make the difference in mind. I think that because I like the players we have at c back and feel we will still be strong if Virgil were to leave. Whatever happens it is time to stay calm and not get our knickers in a twist whatever happens.
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petesmaterob added 10:28 - Dec 19
I think he is playing at about 70% of his best form last year, but that can be said for most of the team. The management team need to sort out the lack of cohesion, passion and commitment to the team because we are definitely watching a team that is playing below its potential. I can accept us losing but not if we are not playing with full commitment and as a team.
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UphamSaint added 10:43 - Dec 19
Simply time to sell a player who clearly wants to leave and is not giving his all for the club.
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Markl2057 added 11:13 - Dec 19
The guy hasn't put one tough challenge in since his return!! Not gone in for a 50/50 0r a 40/60 like all tough centre backs do I haven't hardly seen him win a challenge in the air it's pointless him coming up for corners!!! The players attitude and commitment stinks!!!!!
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LordDZLucan added 11:21 - Dec 19
Sell him in the summer to the highest bidder but not Liverpool at any price.
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patred added 11:23 - Dec 19
Whoever gets him will have to offer him more than money. Word is that Kloop, who has already meet and spoke to him said that they will pay more wages than any other club. He has had the advantage of selling him Liverpools ambitions. He has been told that Kloop sees him as captain all the time that Kloop is there.
I still think Man City can offer him more in trophies, and that may sway the deal in thier favour. I believe City could be persuaded to sweeten the deal for the Saints by offering them players to buy or loan, Liverpool can't.
Chelsea are outsiders in my opinon, but they could also offer alternative players for the Saints.
LETS GET THIS DONE FOR EVERYONES SAKE! dragging this out does no one any favours.
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helpineedsomebody added 11:48 - Dec 19
HE IS NOT FOR SALE
he signed a 6 year contract with the club & he gambled in the summer that he could get what he wanted a move to another club .
me if he is upset then the best place for him is the naughty boys room then if that fails off back home & never plays football again .
but the club would have to continue paying his wages .
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1970 added 13:26 - Dec 19
stick van dijk on the bench where he belongs with just cameo appearances to keep his fitness until the end of the season then circulate in the media hes for sale and let the auction begin carragher knows in this climate sh***pool have to pay the money at all costs just like the way he is drumming up the coutinho situation to get the most money sell him to citeh and take delph and mangala plus cash
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saintpp added 14:25 - Dec 19
Leaving aside the liverpool story VVD is playing well and those with the anti VVD blinkers on would take them off they would see it. I wathc games on tv and nearly everytime a cross comes its VVD s name the commentator says as he clears it.
Fans forget he does have laid back bobby moore style of playing attitude where he seems to be in control without chasing around like mad bull.
Now that is perceived as not caring unlike last year.
We need to stay up and keep our best players to make sure of that,supposing we get bunch of cb injuries and we have sold him leaving us short in that area.Hoedts stilll learning so is stephens and yoshi is well yoshi prone to mistakes for some reason cost us goal every time.
Must keep and certainely never sell him or anyone else to liverpool.
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Markl2057 added 17:37 - Dec 19
Bobby Moore comparison??? Your on medication!!
The only thing they have in common is that he tried to hold West ham to ransom and force a move thru to spurs!!! Least Moore played with passion and pride after instead of prancing around and put his foot in and prepared to get hurt !!!
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IanRC added 17:37 - Dec 19
I think he is putting in a decent shift and making fewer mistakes than others.
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PezzaSaint added 18:10 - Dec 19
Presumably Carragher was talking on Sky Sports when discussing VVD? He shouldn't be allowed to do this when he knows that Liverhampton have been interested, it is unprofessional and he knows dam well why he says such things!!!
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TeamCortese added 22:01 - Dec 19
I DON'T CARE ABOUT VVD'S TRANSFER OPTIONS!

I CARE ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF SOUTHAMPTON FC. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR US? WILL THE MONEY BE REINVESTED? IF SO, WHERE WOULD WE STRENGTHEN? WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR OUR CLUB'S REPUTATION IF WE SELL IN JANUARY GIVEN ALL THE DRAMA OVER THE SUMMER?
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Jesus_02 added 11:28 - Dec 20
You have to ask why the club accepted the apology from Liverpool
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SaintBrock added 12:16 - Dec 20
Well he would wouldn't he!
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underweststand added 15:57 - Dec 22
Carragher is one of a stream of former players who have all been asked to put in their two pennyworth on the subject , and that's about all their opinions are worth. IMHO

The outcome will be that one club or another will agree a price for him that both sides are happy with. Anyone eager / desperate enough to want to go through with the deal will meet our terms. If we don't sell him now, he will undoubtedly go in the summer -but for a greatly reduced fee compared to the figures being quoted now. IF (God forbid) we are relegated, a lower tier status would greatly affect the fee in any future deal.

Those top six clubs wanting to secure next season's CL spot would be silly not to consider making a bid , be it cash or a part-ex deal.


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