| Officials 04:51 - Feb 8 with 1226 views | saint22 |
Regardless of whether VAR should have been used the overall incompetence of the majority of officials in high level football is getting worse and worse
There were 4 Utd players offside for that free kick yet the linesman missed them all!
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| Officials on 07:18 - Feb 8 with 1179 views | arfurdent |
if he flags manure offside they will ensure he goes back to League 2 gigs |  |
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| Officials on 08:52 - Feb 8 with 1115 views | saintmark1976 |
Take a look at the B B C Sports website which clearly shows four players in offside positions with the ball in flight.
We however are constantly told It’s human error, not total corruption. Yea,right. | |
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| Officials on 10:33 - Feb 8 with 1044 views | dirk_doone |
| Officials on 08:52 - Feb 8 by saintmark1976 |
Take a look at the B B C Sports website which clearly shows four players in offside positions with the ball in flight.
We however are constantly told It’s human error, not total corruption. Yea,right. |
Of course the linesman could see it was offside and if it hadn't meant cancelling a last minute winner for United or if it had been a Leicester attack, he'd have raised his flag.
There was a time before VAR, when almost 100% of all penalty decisions at Old Trafford were given in favour of Man United. Of course, even with VAR, the officials still err heavily in their favour.
I wouldn't call it corruption though. It's more a case of subconscious bias or taking the safe option. It's ironic that Mike Dean, who was the worst culprit, is now the leading TV pundit giving his verdict on controversial decisions. [Post edited 8 Feb 10:37]
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| Officials on 11:24 - Feb 8 with 976 views | grumpy |
| Officials on 10:33 - Feb 8 by dirk_doone |
Of course the linesman could see it was offside and if it hadn't meant cancelling a last minute winner for United or if it had been a Leicester attack, he'd have raised his flag.
There was a time before VAR, when almost 100% of all penalty decisions at Old Trafford were given in favour of Man United. Of course, even with VAR, the officials still err heavily in their favour.
I wouldn't call it corruption though. It's more a case of subconscious bias or taking the safe option. It's ironic that Mike Dean, who was the worst culprit, is now the leading TV pundit giving his verdict on controversial decisions. [Post edited 8 Feb 10:37]
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I remember going to a cinema in town to watch a live show of a Saints cup tie at Old Trafford and seeing a perfectly good goal ruled out,I think it was Neil Shiperery(sorry about spelling)who scored it.Same again with Marco Gab. goal at Wembley.Nothing changes. |  | | |
| Officials on 12:39 - Feb 8 with 906 views | jopreston |
| Officials on 10:33 - Feb 8 by dirk_doone |
Of course the linesman could see it was offside and if it hadn't meant cancelling a last minute winner for United or if it had been a Leicester attack, he'd have raised his flag.
There was a time before VAR, when almost 100% of all penalty decisions at Old Trafford were given in favour of Man United. Of course, even with VAR, the officials still err heavily in their favour.
I wouldn't call it corruption though. It's more a case of subconscious bias or taking the safe option. It's ironic that Mike Dean, who was the worst culprit, is now the leading TV pundit giving his verdict on controversial decisions. [Post edited 8 Feb 10:37]
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I am not so sure about it being corruption or not, but to some degree I believe there is a PL directive to try and keep the big sides in cup competitions as it makes it more attractive to sell rights to the huge overseas audience. How many people in Malaysia, China etc., will want to watch a final between Leicester and Southampton? They would stand to lose many many millions.
Money is the name of the game for the PL so making sure the finals are all big well known teams is what they demand. | | | |
| Officials on 12:42 - Feb 8 with 902 views | dirk_doone |
| Officials on 11:24 - Feb 8 by grumpy |
I remember going to a cinema in town to watch a live show of a Saints cup tie at Old Trafford and seeing a perfectly good goal ruled out,I think it was Neil Shiperery(sorry about spelling)who scored it.Same again with Marco Gab. goal at Wembley.Nothing changes. |
I was at Old Trafford for that game where the Neil Shipperley goal was disallowed. It was an FA Cup quarter-final in 1996. Of course Man United went on to win the FA Cup that year, so everybody was happy. To be fair, Eric Cantona was at his brilliant best then so they'd have beaten us anyway. There has rarely been a more entertaining player than Cantona was in the mid-90s.
I like that spelling:
"It's a long way round Shiperery. It's a long way to go." | |
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| Officials on 12:54 - Feb 8 with 886 views | kingslandstand1 |
| Officials on 12:39 - Feb 8 by jopreston |
I am not so sure about it being corruption or not, but to some degree I believe there is a PL directive to try and keep the big sides in cup competitions as it makes it more attractive to sell rights to the huge overseas audience. How many people in Malaysia, China etc., will want to watch a final between Leicester and Southampton? They would stand to lose many many millions.
Money is the name of the game for the PL so making sure the finals are all big well known teams is what they demand. |
So it is corruption then? You are implying (I agree btw) that there is a bias towards the big clubs
So let's see what happens in the Orient/Man City game as it progresses cos I'm sure if there was VAR the goal would have been (debatable tho) disallowed cos of foul in the build up |  | | |
| Officials on 13:14 - Feb 8 with 869 views | arfurdent |
it is an entertainment business selling product for large amounts of money. Lots of money means manipulation to maximise income | |
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| Officials on 13:25 - Feb 8 with 855 views | saintmark1976 |
| Officials on 11:24 - Feb 8 by grumpy |
I remember going to a cinema in town to watch a live show of a Saints cup tie at Old Trafford and seeing a perfectly good goal ruled out,I think it was Neil Shiperery(sorry about spelling)who scored it.Same again with Marco Gab. goal at Wembley.Nothing changes. |
I was in the crowd behind the goal into which he “ scored”.
Not one single Man Utd player complained. They were as surprised as were us all when it was disallowed.
Had the effort stood we would have led 1-0. It wasn’t and we went on to lose 2-0 if memory serves. | |
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| Officials on 13:46 - Feb 8 with 837 views | darthvader |
| Officials on 13:25 - Feb 8 by saintmark1976 |
I was in the crowd behind the goal into which he “ scored”.
Not one single Man Utd player complained. They were as surprised as were us all when it was disallowed.
Had the effort stood we would have led 1-0. It wasn’t and we went on to lose 2-0 if memory serves. |
Even fergie said they were lucky |  |
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| Officials on 15:11 - Feb 8 with 769 views | saint22 |
| Officials on 12:39 - Feb 8 by jopreston |
I am not so sure about it being corruption or not, but to some degree I believe there is a PL directive to try and keep the big sides in cup competitions as it makes it more attractive to sell rights to the huge overseas audience. How many people in Malaysia, China etc., will want to watch a final between Leicester and Southampton? They would stand to lose many many millions.
Money is the name of the game for the PL so making sure the finals are all big well known teams is what they demand. |
I am not entirely sure this is true I am more inclined to think that allot of the officials are just not good enough | | | |
| Officials on 09:34 - Feb 9 with 554 views | arfurdent |
| Officials on 15:11 - Feb 8 by saint22 |
I am not entirely sure this is true I am more inclined to think that allot of the officials are just not good enough |
think both aspects are true, they are not mutually exclusive
crap officials are a symptom of manipulation of results, they would hardly want to use competent officials with morals. That would cost them more. | |
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| Officials on 20:58 - Feb 10 with 358 views | Number_58 |
| Officials on 09:34 - Feb 9 by arfurdent |
think both aspects are true, they are not mutually exclusive
crap officials are a symptom of manipulation of results, they would hardly want to use competent officials with morals. That would cost them more. |
Given all of the above, and without the safety net of VAR, it probably wasn't the brightest idea for Leicester to collectively step out and try to play United offside. |  | | |
| Officials on 09:06 - Feb 11 with 224 views | saint901 |
I'm always siding towards cock up rather than conspiracy simply because keeping that many people quiet for so long is almost impossible.
There is I think a statistical analysis that shows that home clubs are generally treated more favourably than away.
There is some statistical evidence that that the "big " clubs get decisions but it's not really significant.
The problem is that "significant" can mean one "wrong" decision in perhaps 30 made in a game and if that is to allow (or disallow) a goal, it is not statistically significant but it is determinative.
For so long as we have humans as refs, it will always be thus.
Having a robot who is always right will be sterile and boring. | | | |
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