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Trump haters of the forum 07:41 - Jan 22 with 9186 viewsmangohilljack

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Trump haters of the forum on 12:07 - Feb 15 with 1019 viewsSullutaCreturned

Trump haters of the forum on 09:56 - Feb 15 by controversial_jack

He's playing Trump like a fish. Why would Russia negotiate when they are winning?


OOh, lets start with winning without losing anymore troops and materiel and no more damage done to Russia, that could be a good reason...

If he can negotiate and get Ukraine to agree to evrrything he wants with no more losses for him....can you see that?

Lets face it, it's been 3 years and Russia has lost a lot, any victory now will certainly be pyrrhic but with Trump withdrawing aid, Ukraine will struggle from here on. Unless Europe steps up.

The other downside to Trump, I can see him withdrawing from NATO. Europe really needs to step up in every department.
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Trump haters of the forum on 07:46 - Feb 16 with 926 viewscontroversial_jack

Trump haters of the forum on 12:07 - Feb 15 by SullutaCreturned

OOh, lets start with winning without losing anymore troops and materiel and no more damage done to Russia, that could be a good reason...

If he can negotiate and get Ukraine to agree to evrrything he wants with no more losses for him....can you see that?

Lets face it, it's been 3 years and Russia has lost a lot, any victory now will certainly be pyrrhic but with Trump withdrawing aid, Ukraine will struggle from here on. Unless Europe steps up.

The other downside to Trump, I can see him withdrawing from NATO. Europe really needs to step up in every department.


He wants to totally destroy the Ukrainian military and create a buffer zone to stop NATOs advance. This is what will happen. Trump may try to roll back NATO, but European leaders seem against this
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Trump haters of the forum on 10:02 - Feb 16 with 903 viewsKeithHaynes

Trump haters of the forum on 07:46 - Feb 16 by controversial_jack

He wants to totally destroy the Ukrainian military and create a buffer zone to stop NATOs advance. This is what will happen. Trump may try to roll back NATO, but European leaders seem against this


Can you advise where he has said that ?

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Trump haters of the forum on 10:37 - Feb 16 with 885 viewscontroversial_jack

Trump haters of the forum on 10:02 - Feb 16 by KeithHaynes

Can you advise where he has said that ?


He has said he want's the Ukraine to be a buffer zone and that NATO has no business expanding eastwards
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Trump haters of the forum on 15:29 - Feb 17 with 810 viewsSullutaCreturned

Trump haters of the forum on 10:37 - Feb 16 by controversial_jack

He has said he want's the Ukraine to be a buffer zone and that NATO has no business expanding eastwards


Ukraine should have been allowed to decide that for themselves. Putin has no business expanding Westwards.
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Trump haters of the forum on 18:41 - Feb 17 with 776 viewsKilkennyjack

Trump haters of the forum on 15:29 - Feb 17 by SullutaCreturned

Ukraine should have been allowed to decide that for themselves. Putin has no business expanding Westwards.


Yes, its an important principle that small nations might be free.

But ….. it cant be at the cost of hundreds of thousands of young lives.
In that respect Trump has a point, the fighting needs to end now and the talking needs to start.
Land will be traded for peace.
European troops will be deployed in Ukraine to keep the Russuans at bay until Putin shuffles off.

Trump will claim personal credit as he really does not give a toss.

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Trump haters of the forum on 19:05 - Feb 17 with 772 viewsSullutaCreturned

Trump haters of the forum on 18:41 - Feb 17 by Kilkennyjack

Yes, its an important principle that small nations might be free.

But ….. it cant be at the cost of hundreds of thousands of young lives.
In that respect Trump has a point, the fighting needs to end now and the talking needs to start.
Land will be traded for peace.
European troops will be deployed in Ukraine to keep the Russuans at bay until Putin shuffles off.

Trump will claim personal credit as he really does not give a toss.


If Ukraine decide they want to fight on then it's their country so their choice. I'm sure you'd agree it's their choice.

Putin will never allow European troops to be deployed in Ukraine.

Peace is the best option but not at any price and Ukraine may see giving Putin what he wants in exchange for peace as betraying all those who have died fighting back. If Ukraine gives in to Putin now he will push for more, it's what dictators do.
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Trump haters of the forum on 19:12 - Feb 17 with 765 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Trump haters of the forum on 18:41 - Feb 17 by Kilkennyjack

Yes, its an important principle that small nations might be free.

But ….. it cant be at the cost of hundreds of thousands of young lives.
In that respect Trump has a point, the fighting needs to end now and the talking needs to start.
Land will be traded for peace.
European troops will be deployed in Ukraine to keep the Russuans at bay until Putin shuffles off.

Trump will claim personal credit as he really does not give a toss.


By absolutely no measure should Ukraine ever be described as a “small nation”.

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Trump haters of the forum on 10:32 - Feb 18 with 673 viewscontroversial_jack

Trump haters of the forum on 15:29 - Feb 17 by SullutaCreturned

Ukraine should have been allowed to decide that for themselves. Putin has no business expanding Westwards.


Not at all. They had every right to go into the Donbass to protect ethnic Russians from being persecuted by the neo nazi Ukranian military units, and don't say it didn't happen, because it's well documented.

The US gave assurances that NATO wouldn't expand eastwards, it did 1000 miles and into several countries. Missiles sited pointing against Russia. Ukraine hostile to Russia joining NATO, it wasn't going to be allowed under any circumstances. Real Politik , get with it.
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Trump haters of the forum on 14:05 - Feb 18 with 608 viewsReslovenSwan1

Trump haters of the forum on 10:32 - Feb 18 by controversial_jack

Not at all. They had every right to go into the Donbass to protect ethnic Russians from being persecuted by the neo nazi Ukranian military units, and don't say it didn't happen, because it's well documented.

The US gave assurances that NATO wouldn't expand eastwards, it did 1000 miles and into several countries. Missiles sited pointing against Russia. Ukraine hostile to Russia joining NATO, it wasn't going to be allowed under any circumstances. Real Politik , get with it.


Whether nations like Finland and Sweden join NATO is none of Russia's business. It is their choice not his. He has enough land under his control. The Baltics are much happier these days and doing well economically.

Ukraine gave up it nuclear weapons voluntarily with an agreement for protection.

The dim people of Donbass got excited at Ukrainian being taught in their schools and stated an insurrection which Ukraine tried to put down

The men of the Donbass enraged at their children learning Ukrainian which is similar to Russian were agitated by Strelkov and other. They did not expect to fight as cannon fodder. Many 1000 s are now dead and injured.

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Trump haters of the forum on 14:34 - Feb 18 with 600 viewsJoesus_Of_Narbereth

Trump haters of the forum on 10:32 - Feb 18 by controversial_jack

Not at all. They had every right to go into the Donbass to protect ethnic Russians from being persecuted by the neo nazi Ukranian military units, and don't say it didn't happen, because it's well documented.

The US gave assurances that NATO wouldn't expand eastwards, it did 1000 miles and into several countries. Missiles sited pointing against Russia. Ukraine hostile to Russia joining NATO, it wasn't going to be allowed under any circumstances. Real Politik , get with it.


What the hell is an “ethnic Russian” anyway?

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Trump haters of the forum on 16:25 - Feb 18 with 564 viewsSullutaCreturned

Trump haters of the forum on 14:05 - Feb 18 by ReslovenSwan1

Whether nations like Finland and Sweden join NATO is none of Russia's business. It is their choice not his. He has enough land under his control. The Baltics are much happier these days and doing well economically.

Ukraine gave up it nuclear weapons voluntarily with an agreement for protection.

The dim people of Donbass got excited at Ukrainian being taught in their schools and stated an insurrection which Ukraine tried to put down

The men of the Donbass enraged at their children learning Ukrainian which is similar to Russian were agitated by Strelkov and other. They did not expect to fight as cannon fodder. Many 1000 s are now dead and injured.

English families seem quite happy to learn Welsh . A completely different tongue. Smart people the English in the main Love your neighbour and stay calm and live a good long life.


Those ethnic Russians, they are there because when the Soviet Union was a thing, they tried to breed out the locals nad have the place over run by Russians. It was a kind of ethnic cleansing, clear out the Ukraininas and replace with Russians.

It doesn't give Putin the right to invade. NATO, just like the EU, should have kept their flies zipped. The rst of your post is the usual nonsense and by well documented, you mean "that's what Russia says" as per usual.

You are a trier though
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Trump haters of the forum on 09:27 - Feb 19 with 488 viewscontroversial_jack

i've tried to make it as simple as possible. but seem to have failed, so maybe this will help

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Trump haters of the forum on 15:33 - Feb 19 with 427 viewsSullutaCreturned

Trump haters of the forum on 09:27 - Feb 19 by controversial_jack

i've tried to make it as simple as possible. but seem to have failed, so maybe this will help



Oh please......the real reasons!

Why has trump apparently ytaken Putins side? We need a laptop discovery
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Trump haters of the forum on 20:37 - Feb 19 with 347 viewsGwyn737

Trump haters of the forum on 15:33 - Feb 19 by SullutaCreturned

Oh please......the real reasons!

Why has trump apparently ytaken Putins side? We need a laptop discovery


This is going to be difficult for some.

Trump and Putin are now a pair. Two sides of the same coin.

There’s be a lot of mental gymnastics going on by their supporters but for many, Trump’s words are not in the least surprising.
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Trump haters of the forum on 22:39 - Feb 19 with 300 viewsReslovenSwan1

Trump haters of the forum on 09:27 - Feb 19 by controversial_jack

i've tried to make it as simple as possible. but seem to have failed, so maybe this will help



"Boris Johnson Prime minister of England". The guy is 323 year s out of date and clearly has no grasp of detail.

[Post edited 19 Feb 23:59]

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Trump haters of the forum on 01:10 - Feb 20 with 265 viewsRobbie

POTUS has become BBF with the Kremlin overnight , just how did this happen .

Two tier Kier now relegated to the Conference Leauge as like the rest of Europe is now a afterthought ,

The Don has got his foot in the door of Saudi , the biggest team of players and money being thrown around , I will have a bit of that , lets send Uncle Sam there as a gesture in these talks . Works both ways I suppose .

Is Trump a business man or Politician first and foremost , them over The Pond elected him
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Trump haters of the forum on 10:30 - Feb 20 with 165 viewscontroversial_jack

Trump haters of the forum on 22:39 - Feb 19 by ReslovenSwan1

"Boris Johnson Prime minister of England". The guy is 323 year s out of date and clearly has no grasp of detail.

[Post edited 19 Feb 23:59]


Here's another one for you.

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Trump haters of the forum on 10:55 - Feb 20 with 155 viewsGwyn737

Have we actually found a topic that the legacy media representing both sides are united on?

The last 24 hours has seen all outlets call out Trumps lies (which mirror Putin’s lies) for what they are.
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Trump haters of the forum on 20:10 - Feb 20 with 69 viewsbuilthjack

Third time lucky with the shooter maybe.

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Trump haters of the forum on 20:39 - Feb 20 with 38 viewsDJack

Trump haters of the forum on 20:10 - Feb 20 by builthjack

Third time lucky with the shooter maybe.


Hell NO!

A couple of obvious reasons... The VP, who is Peter Thiel's sockpuppet, becomes President and they will use the assassination as the excuse to enact full on autocracy.

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