| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 216830 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot. 
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:22 - Dec 11 with 1444 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:03 - Dec 11 by londonlisa2001 |
You claimed that the laptop showed evidence of Joe Biden’s corruption and Hunter Biden’s paedophilia.
He’s being investigated for his taxes.
Not really the same thing is it.
Wait til you hear what Ivanka and Jared are being investigated for. It’ll blow your mind. |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:29 - Dec 11 with 1429 views | A_Fans_Dad |
I find it amazing that you lot haven't realized that the Biden family, including sniffer Joe have been thrown under the bus by the Democrats.
He is no longer suitable to be the President as he and the rest of his family are compromised by the Chinese.
This saves the Democrats having to go to the trouble of getting rid of him due to his dementia.
You know that the authorities stated that they had not persued the investigation of his laptop as it might affect the election outcome, but now they think they have it won it no longer matters. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:30 - Dec 11 with 1428 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:07 - Dec 11 by Jack_Kass |
Do you really want to revisit such an embarrassing moment, again?
Since mid October, when you claimed that Hunter Biden was a peadophile, with the evidence on his laptop proving so being a 'FACT', you have been subsequently torn to pieces, and duly left alone, as it was cruel to keep the evident beating, ongoing.
If you have not noticed, you are now ploughing a lone furrow as your mukka Dr Parsnip has long since legged it from this discussion.
Just stop, you silly man. |
Dream on. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 20:31 - Dec 11 with 1428 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 19:53 - Dec 11 by Fireboy2 |
AFD has become a laughing stock, even his best mate has deserted him. |
So he isn't being investigated?
Don't you read the newspapers?
Even the US papers have it, which is a first. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:18 - Dec 11 with 1388 views | Dr_Parnassus |
I haven’t legged away from the discussion, it’s just a circular one at the moment.
The usual mob from the other site are saying “no fraud, another judge said so”, the response is “at local level yes, but we haven’t seen the national level evidence which is statistical nature”.
My stance now is the same as it always has been. Any evidence of irregularities need to be thoroughly investigated, Fulton County looks horrific for example, no sane person can say that all looks legit. But it appears quite unlikely that they will be able to prove such large scale malpractice that it would have changed the result.
It’s my opinion that he should concede and focus on 2024, America may need him more than ever at that time, if the Democrats put into place what is being suggested should they win the Senate at some point in the reign. Then people really will understand what a dictatorship is.
As for those stating the Biden laptop isn’t real. Come on now, let’s not be silly. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:02 - Dec 12 with 1345 views | Kilkennyjack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 22:18 - Dec 11 by Dr_Parnassus |
I haven’t legged away from the discussion, it’s just a circular one at the moment.
The usual mob from the other site are saying “no fraud, another judge said so”, the response is “at local level yes, but we haven’t seen the national level evidence which is statistical nature”.
My stance now is the same as it always has been. Any evidence of irregularities need to be thoroughly investigated, Fulton County looks horrific for example, no sane person can say that all looks legit. But it appears quite unlikely that they will be able to prove such large scale malpractice that it would have changed the result.
It’s my opinion that he should concede and focus on 2024, America may need him more than ever at that time, if the Democrats put into place what is being suggested should they win the Senate at some point in the reign. Then people really will understand what a dictatorship is.
As for those stating the Biden laptop isn’t real. Come on now, let’s not be silly. |
Talking of not being silly ...
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:26 - Dec 12 with 1332 views | majorraglan |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:02 - Dec 12 by Kilkennyjack |
Talking of not being silly ...
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Indeed.
17 Republican states tried to overturn the results, while a similar number of states (mostly democrat but including at least 1 Republican State) were supportive of Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55283024 [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 0:52]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:54 - Dec 12 with 1318 views | DJack |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:57 - Dec 12 with 1318 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:02 - Dec 12 by Kilkennyjack |
Talking of not being silly ...
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That has nothing to do with being silly. It’s a court decision.
As much as you lot like to kick and scream about it, this election was a mess. A complete and utter shambles, as predicted it would be. Gaping holes, mismanagement and lack of clarity was seen throughout.
You are now seeing the upshot of that. To be so supportive of such a unbelievable shambolic and chaotic process and then complain that things are being pursued for clarification is a bit of a contradiction.
This is simply what happens I’m afraid. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 0:59]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:13 - Dec 12 with 1312 views | Highjack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:54 - Dec 12 by DJack |
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Is Biden melting? |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:53 - Dec 12 with 1289 views | DJack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 01:13 - Dec 12 by Highjack |
Is Biden melting? |
Are you? | |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:14 - Dec 12 with 1233 views | A_Fans_Dad |
Still not one single court prepared to expose the actual evidence to the world's public eye.
The suit was rejected out of hand, no evidence looked at at all, because Texas and all the other states had "No Standing" to bring the case.
So just who does have the "the standing" to bring a case to court to expose illegalities and fraud? | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:04 - Dec 12 with 1209 views | Highjack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 02:53 - Dec 12 by DJack |
Are you? |
Am I what? | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:32 - Dec 12 with 1200 views | Fireboy2 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 00:57 - Dec 12 by Dr_Parnassus |
That has nothing to do with being silly. It’s a court decision.
As much as you lot like to kick and scream about it, this election was a mess. A complete and utter shambles, as predicted it would be. Gaping holes, mismanagement and lack of clarity was seen throughout.
You are now seeing the upshot of that. To be so supportive of such a unbelievable shambolic and chaotic process and then complain that things are being pursued for clarification is a bit of a contradiction.
This is simply what happens I’m afraid. [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 0:59]
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It was only a mess because trump lost, simple as.
Just move on as you two are embarrassing yourselves. |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:19 - Dec 12 with 1178 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:32 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
It was only a mess because trump lost, simple as.
Just move on as you two are embarrassing yourselves. |
What you fail to realise in your smug little jibes on here is the affect these decisions are having on the American people.
The Trump supporters have seen the evidence and know that they are being robbed of their vote.
Texas and the othe 19 states also know that their legal elections have been overturned by illegal elections in just 4 states.
There is already suggestions of Secession by those states that see the SCOTUS as not upholding the Constitution.
You may think it is funny.
They know what the media have done hiding the fraud, they know what the DOJ & FBI have done withholding evidence to allow Biden to get more votes.
They know what the lower courts have done in not allowing the evidence to be presented while the media shouts "there is no fraud".
They know of China's involvement.
When you have 75 million very angry and armed individuals who know they have been robbed do you think it is going to end well for for the USA? [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 11:20]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:30 - Dec 12 with 1175 views | Fireboy2 |
Those 75 million have like yourself been brainwashed by trump.
It's an embarrassing state of affairs.
The sooner Biden is inaugurated the better then you can go back to your normal way of life. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:57 - Dec 12 with 1164 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:30 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
Those 75 million have like yourself been brainwashed by trump.
It's an embarrassing state of affairs.
The sooner Biden is inaugurated the better then you can go back to your normal way of life. |
Wow, Trump must be brilliant at this brainwashing lark to do it to half the country without the mass media on his side.
He also brainwashed all those Arab countries making peace deals as well.
Damn he's good, a modern day Svengali.
Of course there is the opposite idea, that his supporters don't all get their prinformation from the BBC and Gaurdian propaganda like you. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:00 - Dec 12 with 1160 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:57 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
Wow, Trump must be brilliant at this brainwashing lark to do it to half the country without the mass media on his side.
He also brainwashed all those Arab countries making peace deals as well.
Damn he's good, a modern day Svengali.
Of course there is the opposite idea, that his supporters don't all get their prinformation from the BBC and Gaurdian propaganda like you. |
No, they get it from right wing sites known for their creative editing of videos and lies.
Futile, pointless discussion where no one will convince anyone else of anything. |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:20 - Dec 12 with 1152 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:00 - Dec 12 by Joe_bradshaw |
No, they get it from right wing sites known for their creative editing of videos and lies.
Futile, pointless discussion where no one will convince anyone else of anything. |
Which sources are known for editing videos out of interest? | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:21 - Dec 12 with 1151 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 10:32 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
It was only a mess because trump lost, simple as.
Just move on as you two are embarrassing yourselves. |
I said it would be a mess long before the first ballot was cast.
I was right. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:35 - Dec 12 with 1116 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 12:00 - Dec 12 by Joe_bradshaw |
No, they get it from right wing sites known for their creative editing of videos and lies.
Futile, pointless discussion where no one will convince anyone else of anything. |
Please provide the proof of your very bold statement.
There must be dozens of videos and here you are suggesting that they are all edited, or are you just repeating mass media crap? [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 14:36]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:51 - Dec 12 with 1085 views | majorraglan |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 09:14 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
Still not one single court prepared to expose the actual evidence to the world's public eye.
The suit was rejected out of hand, no evidence looked at at all, because Texas and all the other states had "No Standing" to bring the case.
So just who does have the "the standing" to bring a case to court to expose illegalities and fraud? |
Because when push has come to shove and the Republican /Trump lawyers have gone to the Courts they don’t have any credible evidence of large scale fraud. Whether Trump likes it or not, the cases in the individual States have been kicked out on account of lack of evidence or that due process has been followed and the laws complied with.
Texas argument was they had been prejudiced because of the results in the other States and the way the elections had been carried out, but aspects of this had already been argued in the individual States courts where it had been determined the elections were all carried out lawfully and in accordance with protocol. All the States have their own rules for elections as they are entitled to because they are separate entities, just because the rules in Texas are different to those in Pennsylvania etc it doesn’t give Texas the right to litigate to ask for the PA vote to be overturned. In theory, PA could counter sue Texas based on the latter not having a more open postal ballot!
It’s worth noting that the Texas official who brought this case is under investigation for corruption and the speculation is that he instigated the case to try and get a pardon.
The score is something like 55-1 against a Trump. He has another case in Wisconsin today and is seeing to have 221,000 votes thrown out.
What we see on you tube doesn’t necessarily equate to credible evidence in a Court of law. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:02 - Dec 12 with 1077 views | AndyCole |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 11:30 - Dec 12 by Fireboy2 |
Those 75 million have like yourself been brainwashed by trump.
It's an embarrassing state of affairs.
The sooner Biden is inaugurated the better then you can go back to your normal way of life. |
Looking forward to hearing what you and your gang are expecting from Biden and Harris.
What specific improvements are you looking for ? Your top 3 will do for now.
The markets are poised and have been pricing in this debacle. | |
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Anti gang-bullying and poor modding thereof -
Will always make a stand against those who consistently choose to turn a blind eye |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:13 - Dec 12 with 1072 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:35 - Dec 12 by A_Fans_Dad |
Please provide the proof of your very bold statement.
There must be dozens of videos and here you are suggesting that they are all edited, or are you just repeating mass media crap? [Post edited 12 Dec 2020 14:36]
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You posted one from the “voter integrity project”. Well known nonsense,
You have twice in this thread claimed more votes cast than registered voters in specific locations. Both were lies trumped up which didn’t need thinking about to realise what they were. The fact that you were prepared to evidence them on here tells us that you post anything that suits your agenda without actually thinking about it. Turnout in those places was, in fact, under 66%.
Give it a rest, it’s clearly eating you up. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:14 - Dec 12 with 1072 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:51 - Dec 12 by majorraglan |
Because when push has come to shove and the Republican /Trump lawyers have gone to the Courts they don’t have any credible evidence of large scale fraud. Whether Trump likes it or not, the cases in the individual States have been kicked out on account of lack of evidence or that due process has been followed and the laws complied with.
Texas argument was they had been prejudiced because of the results in the other States and the way the elections had been carried out, but aspects of this had already been argued in the individual States courts where it had been determined the elections were all carried out lawfully and in accordance with protocol. All the States have their own rules for elections as they are entitled to because they are separate entities, just because the rules in Texas are different to those in Pennsylvania etc it doesn’t give Texas the right to litigate to ask for the PA vote to be overturned. In theory, PA could counter sue Texas based on the latter not having a more open postal ballot!
It’s worth noting that the Texas official who brought this case is under investigation for corruption and the speculation is that he instigated the case to try and get a pardon.
The score is something like 55-1 against a Trump. He has another case in Wisconsin today and is seeing to have 221,000 votes thrown out.
What we see on you tube doesn’t necessarily equate to credible evidence in a Court of law. |
You have no idea what you are talking about, they have masses of evidence, but not one court is prepared to allow it in to the public domain.
But in the Texas case the evidence is already known by everybody.
The 4 states illegally changed the laws regarding a Presidential election, which is not a state election, it is a federal election, without authorisation which led to fraud.
It is literally that simple.
The evidence is manifold and comprehensive, but you won't accept it.
It is only on Youtube because the mass media is suppressing it, just like the Biden laptop, now why would they do that.
Did they suppress anything about Trump, his family, his friends and employees in the last 4 years?
Of course not. | | | |
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