| Does MJ Hold the Key 07:12 - Aug 17 with 3153 views | midlandsdale |
Given we seem to be holding our own defensively in games with Jim in the back 3, would this allow MJ to move into midfield to be more of a creative influence and release Henderson to play up top? |  | | |  |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 07:56 - Aug 17 with 3089 views | 442Dale |
While MJW may well end up being an option in midfield, the Henderson situation isn’t linked in my mind. We have more than enough options in that area to not have to consider using him there.
It’s a good shout about McNulty, we’ve been fine defensively with him as the central one in the three. |  |
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 08:14 - Aug 17 with 3064 views | midlandsdale |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 07:56 - Aug 17 by 442Dale |
While MJW may well end up being an option in midfield, the Henderson situation isn’t linked in my mind. We have more than enough options in that area to not have to consider using him there.
It’s a good shout about McNulty, we’ve been fine defensively with him as the central one in the three. |
Agree its not specifically linked. Just trying to see why KH persists with Hendo in midfield when we can all see, him included that he is our best finisher. Possibly thinks we dont have enough creativity in the middle. Im sure its worth a punt as Camps is sadly off line and MJ has no problem playing there. | | | |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 08:20 - Aug 17 with 3046 views | 442Dale |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 08:14 - Aug 17 by midlandsdale |
Agree its not specifically linked. Just trying to see why KH persists with Hendo in midfield when we can all see, him included that he is our best finisher. Possibly thinks we dont have enough creativity in the middle. Im sure its worth a punt as Camps is sadly off line and MJ has no problem playing there. |
I wouldn’t mind if Henderson plays well there and it’s a case of “he’s a good midfielder as well as a forward and we need him there”. He doesn’t, he isn’t and we don’t. | |
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 08:22 - Aug 17 with 3042 views | fitzochris |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 08:14 - Aug 17 by midlandsdale |
Agree its not specifically linked. Just trying to see why KH persists with Hendo in midfield when we can all see, him included that he is our best finisher. Possibly thinks we dont have enough creativity in the middle. Im sure its worth a punt as Camps is sadly off line and MJ has no problem playing there. |
It's probably less to do with creativity and more to do with a work ethic, or a perceived lack thereof, from other individuals.
In my opinion, Henderson playing where he is presently is limiting the team. After Rathbone and Cannon's display on Tuesday, there is little argument for keeping Henderson as far back as he has been. |  |
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 08:51 - Aug 17 with 2972 views | dingdangblue |
I'm not even sure that Keith says specifically to Hendo - "you play upfront or you play in midfield" - I think he just gives him a free reign to drift where he wants during a game (obviously apart from last Saturday late in the game where he was told to play fullback/wingback).
When he drops too deep and stops getting into goalscoring positions this harms us massively though. We all know how good he can finish in and around the box so it seems stupid not to make sure he is in a position to utilise one of his best assets. Even Hendo himself must want to score goals as much as possible? He seems a very bright individual so you would think he'd want to be in the box as much as possible? |  |
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 08:53 - Aug 17 with 2973 views | tony_roch975 |
He played in m/f last season - concerned his lack of pace would only add to that general weakness in the team at the moment and would seem to be a choice of him or Perkins on current formation. |  |
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 09:03 - Aug 17 with 2953 views | 442Dale |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 08:51 - Aug 17 by dingdangblue |
I'm not even sure that Keith says specifically to Hendo - "you play upfront or you play in midfield" - I think he just gives him a free reign to drift where he wants during a game (obviously apart from last Saturday late in the game where he was told to play fullback/wingback).
When he drops too deep and stops getting into goalscoring positions this harms us massively though. We all know how good he can finish in and around the box so it seems stupid not to make sure he is in a position to utilise one of his best assets. Even Hendo himself must want to score goals as much as possible? He seems a very bright individual so you would think he'd want to be in the box as much as possible? |
If that was the case it’s the manager’s job to recognise it and play a player in the best position at any particular time, then get him to move during the game if he’s wandering too much. There’s an argument that Henderson can play wide in a front three or even in a 4-4-2 but he adds very little when central in the middle of the park. Everything slows down when it goes through him in there.
The last bit is what’s strangest, you’d think he’d be making a point of wanting to be up front, there’s surely more to be gained from scoring from ten yards than passing it the same distance to a defender. | |
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 09:42 - Aug 17 with 2892 views | macro |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 08:22 - Aug 17 by fitzochris |
It's probably less to do with creativity and more to do with a work ethic, or a perceived lack thereof, from other individuals.
In my opinion, Henderson playing where he is presently is limiting the team. After Rathbone and Cannon's display on Tuesday, there is little argument for keeping Henderson as far back as he has been. |
Henderson is our one real poacher - agree with you that he needs to be one of the forward 3 not playing deep |  | | |
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 10:05 - Aug 17 with 2854 views | DaleiLama |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 08:51 - Aug 17 by dingdangblue |
I'm not even sure that Keith says specifically to Hendo - "you play upfront or you play in midfield" - I think he just gives him a free reign to drift where he wants during a game (obviously apart from last Saturday late in the game where he was told to play fullback/wingback).
When he drops too deep and stops getting into goalscoring positions this harms us massively though. We all know how good he can finish in and around the box so it seems stupid not to make sure he is in a position to utilise one of his best assets. Even Hendo himself must want to score goals as much as possible? He seems a very bright individual so you would think he'd want to be in the box as much as possible? |
Couple of observations as I sit behind the bench at home games. Keith or Beechy don't seem to be as hands on with what's going on in the final third in terms of barking out instructions, but get very involved with midfield and defence. Olly, Matty, Callum and especially Harrison seem to get most "suggestions". Hendo sometimes comes over, either when called or seemingly of his own volition, to have a quick chat to the bench, no doubt discussing tactics to be implemented.
Not sure if this supports the "free rein" argument or not. I haven't noticed him trying to move Hendo around often from the touchline, but seeing how much KH likes to get involved, either Hendo's following orders to the tee or your theory is correct. [Post edited 17 Aug 2018 10:10]
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 11:41 - Aug 17 with 2735 views | Dale92 |
I remember in the Hillcroft reign. Im sure Flicker was responsible for striker drills in training. I remember him going on about at at a fans forum....might be wrong though. |  |
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 12:54 - Aug 17 with 2661 views | dingdangblue |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 11:41 - Aug 17 by Dale92 |
I remember in the Hillcroft reign. Im sure Flicker was responsible for striker drills in training. I remember him going on about at at a fans forum....might be wrong though. |
I'm pretty sure Tony Ellis is involved with the forwards in training these days. | |
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 13:59 - Aug 17 with 2579 views | 442Dale |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 10:05 - Aug 17 by DaleiLama |
Couple of observations as I sit behind the bench at home games. Keith or Beechy don't seem to be as hands on with what's going on in the final third in terms of barking out instructions, but get very involved with midfield and defence. Olly, Matty, Callum and especially Harrison seem to get most "suggestions". Hendo sometimes comes over, either when called or seemingly of his own volition, to have a quick chat to the bench, no doubt discussing tactics to be implemented.
Not sure if this supports the "free rein" argument or not. I haven't noticed him trying to move Hendo around often from the touchline, but seeing how much KH likes to get involved, either Hendo's following orders to the tee or your theory is correct. [Post edited 17 Aug 2018 10:10]
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On the odd occasion I’ve been near the dugout in the last couple of years, McGahey appears to get very similar advice to which Scott Wiseman received around the turn of the decade. | |
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| Does MJ Hold the Key on 17:55 - Aug 17 with 2457 views | Shun |
| Does MJ Hold the Key on 13:59 - Aug 17 by 442Dale |
On the odd occasion I’ve been near the dugout in the last couple of years, McGahey appears to get very similar advice to which Scott Wiseman received around the turn of the decade. |
What kind of advice was that? |  | | |
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