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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years 06:16 - Jan 24 with 6612 viewsWhiterockin

Just putting this out there, make of it what you will.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62enyvv75eo
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:57 - Jan 31 with 804 viewsSullutaCreturned

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 17:30 - Jan 31 by Boundy

All the shops you mention in the majority have one common denominator


I don't know about the others but it's said there are very many "Turkish barbers" that are simply money laundering fronts.
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:05 - Jan 31 with 794 viewsonehunglow

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:57 - Jan 31 by SullutaCreturned

I don't know about the others but it's said there are very many "Turkish barbers" that are simply money laundering fronts.


Every town city and even rural villages have them in abundance
Expensively decked out
They spend a lot of time on their phones
Support British barbers who won’t shove a hot flame in your ear or shove wax up your snout

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 12:01 - Feb 1 with 681 viewsBoundy

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:36 - Jan 30 by Gwyn737

Fair play, in some stiff competition within GeeBeebies that is the most ridiculous headline I’ve ever read.


Telegraph suit you sir

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/give-us-youth-movement-and-fishing-rights-o

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:06 - Feb 7 with 509 viewsBoundy

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 12:01 - Feb 1 by Boundy

Telegraph suit you sir

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/give-us-youth-movement-and-fishing-rights-o


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nuclear-power-plant-shelved-after-concerns

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:20 - Feb 7 with 499 viewsraynor94

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 13:13 - Jan 31 by Kilkennyjack

Yes, the young dont drink nearly as much as previous generations.

Times change, pubs close …. But new barber shops, suntan shops, vape shops and tattoo shops are doing really well …. 🤷‍♂️


I love the way you keep purporting to be some kind of hip youngster

You give it out, you take it back it`s all part of the game
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:03 - Feb 8 with 404 viewsReslovenSwan1

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 10:00 - Jan 24 by onehunglow

The lingua Franca is English.
Immigrants have to learn English to benefit ,welsh is a luxury for them,something to get the aah factor.

Yma o hyd applies to all Welsh people and English only welsh people are as worthy as welsh onky speakers

Bluddy language again

I’d rather Wales spends money on its waiting times for those with significant illnesses


It's always Welsh language v NHS never Monarchy or House of Lords v NHS.

Wise sage since Toshack era
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 22:34 - Feb 8 with 354 viewsunion_jack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:03 - Feb 8 by ReslovenSwan1

It's always Welsh language v NHS never Monarchy or House of Lords v NHS.


Not always, no. Sometimes it’s jobs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14374443/Welsh-nuclear-power-plant-fear

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 23:03 - Feb 8 with 346 viewsKilkennyjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:03 - Feb 8 by ReslovenSwan1

It's always Welsh language v NHS never Monarchy or House of Lords v NHS.


Well said, the Brit Nats ‘go to’ is the false NHS beds vs Welsh language nonsense.

Never mention of illegal wars, covid corruption, or Brexit costs.
All enourmous costs.

Its almost like the real agenda is being anti the welsh language.

Beware of the Risen People

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 23:03 - Feb 8 with 344 viewsbuilthjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 22:34 - Feb 8 by union_jack

Not always, no. Sometimes it’s jobs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14374443/Welsh-nuclear-power-plant-fear


Hitachi were pulling out of that one anyway, they couldn’t finance it.
The Mail. They rarely tell the truth.

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 23:17 - Feb 8 with 342 viewsKilkennyjack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 22:34 - Feb 8 by union_jack

Not always, no. Sometimes it’s jobs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14374443/Welsh-nuclear-power-plant-fear


The old Wylfa nuclear power station, adjacent to the proposed site of the new reactor. It was closed in 2015. It started in 1971.
So clearly that was well established with the welsh language all around it .. for decades.

Its almost like it must be something in the new plans that caused the new problem.

Twitter is saying ….. ‘Wylfa Newydd wasn't cancelled because of the Welsh language, this is a completely political spin, Wylfa was dropped because of refusal from Westminster to give the funding. Horizon actually did its best to make language commitments such as requiring that 85% local Welsh staff …’.

What about the recent jobs lost in Port Talbot and Grangemouth, Scotland ?
All the fault of the welsh language, as well…?

Wales can have both good jobs and the welsh language.
Thats just normal the world over.

Take off your union jack sunglasses mun, they are not showing you the full picture …
[Post edited 9 Feb 9:12]

Beware of the Risen People

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 10:01 - Feb 9 with 290 viewsonehunglow

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 23:17 - Feb 8 by Kilkennyjack

The old Wylfa nuclear power station, adjacent to the proposed site of the new reactor. It was closed in 2015. It started in 1971.
So clearly that was well established with the welsh language all around it .. for decades.

Its almost like it must be something in the new plans that caused the new problem.

Twitter is saying ….. ‘Wylfa Newydd wasn't cancelled because of the Welsh language, this is a completely political spin, Wylfa was dropped because of refusal from Westminster to give the funding. Horizon actually did its best to make language commitments such as requiring that 85% local Welsh staff …’.

What about the recent jobs lost in Port Talbot and Grangemouth, Scotland ?
All the fault of the welsh language, as well…?

Wales can have both good jobs and the welsh language.
Thats just normal the world over.

Take off your union jack sunglasses mun, they are not showing you the full picture …
[Post edited 9 Feb 9:12]


Correct me if I'm wrong
You don't want new jobs to go to Anglesey as it would affect Welsh speaking
I read it as such
Now that would mean people talking in their language of choice even though their children's futures are seeing no new well paid jobs coming
The result is that they move away to work
And speak the lingua franca
I see Welsh as an utter curse in this regard
People literally stopping jobs just because the new company would bring more English emigres
It is beyond incredible

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 10:25 - Feb 9 with 268 viewsunion_jack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 23:17 - Feb 8 by Kilkennyjack

The old Wylfa nuclear power station, adjacent to the proposed site of the new reactor. It was closed in 2015. It started in 1971.
So clearly that was well established with the welsh language all around it .. for decades.

Its almost like it must be something in the new plans that caused the new problem.

Twitter is saying ….. ‘Wylfa Newydd wasn't cancelled because of the Welsh language, this is a completely political spin, Wylfa was dropped because of refusal from Westminster to give the funding. Horizon actually did its best to make language commitments such as requiring that 85% local Welsh staff …’.

What about the recent jobs lost in Port Talbot and Grangemouth, Scotland ?
All the fault of the welsh language, as well…?

Wales can have both good jobs and the welsh language.
Thats just normal the world over.

Take off your union jack sunglasses mun, they are not showing you the full picture …
[Post edited 9 Feb 9:12]


Wales can’t afford to lose jobs because of the Welsh language I’d say.

It’s not only the DM that’s reporting this in this way so there is a lot of truth to it.

And no, the Welsh language isn’t going to affect jobs in Grangemouth nor would I say in Port Talbot. But Anglesey is a bit more of a hot bed iof Welsh speakers (proper ones not just taught compulsorily in school but never use it) so I wonder what the locals would prefer, language protection or bread on the table. Locals will benefit from the project even if there’s an influx of outsiders. Jobs building the plant, working at the plant and businesses in the area. Possibly even supply chain businesses there or close by.

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 14:42 - Feb 9 with 216 viewsfelixstowe_jack

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 23:03 - Feb 8 by Kilkennyjack

Well said, the Brit Nats ‘go to’ is the false NHS beds vs Welsh language nonsense.

Never mention of illegal wars, covid corruption, or Brexit costs.
All enourmous costs.

Its almost like the real agenda is being anti the welsh language.


Or real agenda being anti democracy, anti British, anti the 80% of Welsh people who speaks English.

You seem to be intent on forcing the views of 20% of the Welsh population onto the majority that is not how democracy works.
To cap it all off you want to rejoin the non democratic EU, despite our contributions to the EU, that would have been €26 billion last year.

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 14:46 - Feb 9 with 211 viewsGwyn737

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 14:42 - Feb 9 by felixstowe_jack

Or real agenda being anti democracy, anti British, anti the 80% of Welsh people who speaks English.

You seem to be intent on forcing the views of 20% of the Welsh population onto the majority that is not how democracy works.
To cap it all off you want to rejoin the non democratic EU, despite our contributions to the EU, that would have been €26 billion last year.


That assumes that the 80% all want the welsh language to die though, doesn’t it.

In regards to the £26 billion you insist on using, that’s about as accurate as the Truss £30 billion figure.

Neither should be used.
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 15:34 - Feb 9 with 184 viewsonehunglow

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 14:46 - Feb 9 by Gwyn737

That assumes that the 80% all want the welsh language to die though, doesn’t it.

In regards to the £26 billion you insist on using, that’s about as accurate as the Truss £30 billion figure.

Neither should be used.


Garbage
Because 80 per cent don't speak Welsh , that does not make them demons neither do they particularly want Welsh to die out
It won't because it can't because 20 per cent will ensure it doesn't
What do you think young folk on Anglesey want
Speak Welsh or have a job
They will speak Welsh as they do anywamore English scum moving there to work will change nowt
What is the matter with you all

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 15:37 - Feb 9 with 179 viewsGwyn737

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 15:34 - Feb 9 by onehunglow

Garbage
Because 80 per cent don't speak Welsh , that does not make them demons neither do they particularly want Welsh to die out
It won't because it can't because 20 per cent will ensure it doesn't
What do you think young folk on Anglesey want
Speak Welsh or have a job
They will speak Welsh as they do anywamore English scum moving there to work will change nowt
What is the matter with you all


The fact they’re not demons was my point!

Many are happy to have the language promoted.
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 15:44 - Feb 9 with 173 viewsonehunglow

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 15:37 - Feb 9 by Gwyn737

The fact they’re not demons was my point!

Many are happy to have the language promoted.


Really
Promoted by whom and how

Wales is desperate for jobs

Anglesey has rich folk buying up seaside property and some old money there too

If you're from Holyhead , there is fork all

Beautiful country is ok if you own a farm or caravan site

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 15:47 - Feb 9 with 167 viewsSullutaCreturned

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 23:17 - Feb 8 by Kilkennyjack

The old Wylfa nuclear power station, adjacent to the proposed site of the new reactor. It was closed in 2015. It started in 1971.
So clearly that was well established with the welsh language all around it .. for decades.

Its almost like it must be something in the new plans that caused the new problem.

Twitter is saying ….. ‘Wylfa Newydd wasn't cancelled because of the Welsh language, this is a completely political spin, Wylfa was dropped because of refusal from Westminster to give the funding. Horizon actually did its best to make language commitments such as requiring that 85% local Welsh staff …’.

What about the recent jobs lost in Port Talbot and Grangemouth, Scotland ?
All the fault of the welsh language, as well…?

Wales can have both good jobs and the welsh language.
Thats just normal the world over.

Take off your union jack sunglasses mun, they are not showing you the full picture …
[Post edited 9 Feb 9:12]


Out of genuine interest, are there any other countries where a second language is compulsory in schools because it is dying and the government wants to save it?

In places where it's normal, could it be that it is used by a large enough group of people that it won't die out?

Indeed Welsh would not die out if it wasn't compulsory because enough people speak it in parts of Wales that ensure it will survive.

It's not and never has been about the langauge versus the NHS, that is just the usual fakery from you, it's about spending the money where it is needed the most. I really do wonder, if we had a referenda on this, and why not include other things like the 20mph, the M4 relief etc, what would the people of Wales vote for?
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 15:59 - Feb 9 with 153 viewsSullutaCreturned

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 14:46 - Feb 9 by Gwyn737

That assumes that the 80% all want the welsh language to die though, doesn’t it.

In regards to the £26 billion you insist on using, that’s about as accurate as the Truss £30 billion figure.

Neither should be used.


Does it assume that? What if the 80% think like me, that those who want to use Welsh or learn Welsh are free to do so but that more of the money spent on Welsh promotion could be better used elsewhere?

As any teacher can tell you, be it anywhere in the Uk, schools need more money and so does pretty much every public service with some on the verge of collapse and facing big cuts.

I will always argue that preserving life and the quality of life is more important than a language. If something isn't strong enough to survive on its own merits then let it die out naturally. Welsh won't die though, it has its strongholds.
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 16:06 - Feb 9 with 149 viewsonehunglow

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 23:17 - Feb 8 by Kilkennyjack

The old Wylfa nuclear power station, adjacent to the proposed site of the new reactor. It was closed in 2015. It started in 1971.
So clearly that was well established with the welsh language all around it .. for decades.

Its almost like it must be something in the new plans that caused the new problem.

Twitter is saying ….. ‘Wylfa Newydd wasn't cancelled because of the Welsh language, this is a completely political spin, Wylfa was dropped because of refusal from Westminster to give the funding. Horizon actually did its best to make language commitments such as requiring that 85% local Welsh staff …’.

What about the recent jobs lost in Port Talbot and Grangemouth, Scotland ?
All the fault of the welsh language, as well…?

Wales can have both good jobs and the welsh language.
Thats just normal the world over.

Take off your union jack sunglasses mun, they are not showing you the full picture …
[Post edited 9 Feb 9:12]


So a requirement to speak Welshvtyen
My God
It's really blackmail by language
Language has no place in job creation
People on Anglesey speak Welsh especially when taking money from English foreigners

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 16:38 - Feb 9 with 122 viewslifelong

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 15:59 - Feb 9 by SullutaCreturned

Does it assume that? What if the 80% think like me, that those who want to use Welsh or learn Welsh are free to do so but that more of the money spent on Welsh promotion could be better used elsewhere?

As any teacher can tell you, be it anywhere in the Uk, schools need more money and so does pretty much every public service with some on the verge of collapse and facing big cuts.

I will always argue that preserving life and the quality of life is more important than a language. If something isn't strong enough to survive on its own merits then let it die out naturally. Welsh won't die though, it has its strongholds.


There are a number of minority languages spoken in the UK, what are we to do about them?
In some of the large Cities dozens of primary and secondary schools are not English speaking, how much does this cost the tax payer?
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 16:45 - Feb 9 with 120 viewsSullutaCreturned

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 16:38 - Feb 9 by lifelong

There are a number of minority languages spoken in the UK, what are we to do about them?
In some of the large Cities dozens of primary and secondary schools are not English speaking, how much does this cost the tax payer?


We don't spend money promoting them though, we don't make them compulsory. The money we spend is so those kids can be taught their school lessons.

It is nowhere near the same thing.

Besides, arent' they expected to learn English?
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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:33 - Feb 9 with 87 viewsonehunglow

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 16:38 - Feb 9 by lifelong

There are a number of minority languages spoken in the UK, what are we to do about them?
In some of the large Cities dozens of primary and secondary schools are not English speaking, how much does this cost the tax payer?


What we do is let them speak as they want whether Welsh or Albanian

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:11 - Feb 9 with 40 viewsBoundy

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 10:25 - Feb 9 by union_jack

Wales can’t afford to lose jobs because of the Welsh language I’d say.

It’s not only the DM that’s reporting this in this way so there is a lot of truth to it.

And no, the Welsh language isn’t going to affect jobs in Grangemouth nor would I say in Port Talbot. But Anglesey is a bit more of a hot bed iof Welsh speakers (proper ones not just taught compulsorily in school but never use it) so I wonder what the locals would prefer, language protection or bread on the table. Locals will benefit from the project even if there’s an influx of outsiders. Jobs building the plant, working at the plant and businesses in the area. Possibly even supply chain businesses there or close by.


Reminds me of a little town Royston Vasey, local shop for local people syndrome

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Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 23:16 - Feb 9 with 23 viewslifelong

Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 16:45 - Feb 9 by SullutaCreturned

We don't spend money promoting them though, we don't make them compulsory. The money we spend is so those kids can be taught their school lessons.

It is nowhere near the same thing.

Besides, arent' they expected to learn English?


Large swathes of, for example, London contain areas where very little English is spoken, Road signs are multi lingual with notices in hospitals,Police Stations, Post Offices etc written in up to half a dozen languages.
Over a million people there don’t speak English, I suspect it is a similar situation in areas of Manchester,Birmingham, Leicester and Bradford.
Just because 600,000 people speak Welsh in Wales, a language that has been spoken here for many centuries, there is outcry on here.
So it costs a few quid to promote the language, it’s worth every penny.
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