| Paul Waugh 19:47 - Jul 3 with 22818 views | Shun |
The Labour candidate makes note in his campaign leaflet of being a lifelong Dale fan. Has anyone seen him/spoken to him at a match or is just politician rhetoric? |  | | |  |
| Paul Waugh on 18:48 - Jul 5 with 4995 views | sxdale |
| Paul Waugh on 18:26 - Jul 5 by NorthernDale |
The problem is, if you build houses on green belt land, you take away farm land needed for cows, sheep for example, besides farm land needed to grow crops for food. It is the same with covering fields with solar panels and if you take up green belt land for houses, what about the wildlife? It is a problem that the metropolitan elite will not address, because they don't understand the countryside or the impact of metropolitan elite policies on rural areas. Yes we need houses for British people, but we could use brown field sites, build smaller 2 bedroom or 1 bedroom houses, rather 3 or 4 bedroom houses just to generate income for the house builders. But if you combined the IQ of Miliband and Rayner, who would the policy to destroy the countryside, it would equal that of the village idiot and Starmer is the puppet of Blair and Mandelson, he is not a leader. |
You don't need to build on greenbelt. There are plenty of empty properties above shops in town centre's (and you don't need to build sub standard flats from former office blocks) and there is also the greybelt, derelict industrial sites in now greenbelt land. All it takes is a bit of imagination and not trying to maximise every last penny of profit. |  | | |
| Paul Waugh on 21:07 - Jul 5 with 4823 views | TVOS1907 |
| Paul Waugh on 18:13 - Jul 5 by 442Dale |
Any need for that comment about Rayner? No matter what the thoughts are about someone’s personality/competency/politics, she’s put the hours in over the years.
Also, ironically in a remark about qualifications: *whose [Post edited 5 Jul 18:14]
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| Paul Waugh on 22:45 - Jul 5 with 4706 views | James1980 |
1000 years of levelling up to be done if you agree with the premis of the following
'William had struck Northumbria right through the heart. And a wound like that goes on for far more than 17 years.
The thing about destruction on this scale is that, even when communities and societies rebuild, they do so at a disadvantage.
That loss of political and economic power becomes a static momentum. And other communities, communities that didn’t suffer the same losses, continue building upon their wealth and station (all while Yorkshire is just struggling to become habitable again).
This is where atrocities become inequalities and then inequalities become structural disadvantages. The people living in rich areas often have more political influence than those in poor areas, and so they are more likely to get favorable governmental policies. If you have money to spend, you tend to give it to those who have the power to ask for it. If money needs to be cut…well, it tends to be taken from those who can’t do anything about it. it is much easier to apply unpopular governance to politically weak communities than politically strong ones.
And so, while there are many reasons for wealth disparity, the fact is that after William the North became poorer than the South… and it remains so. That damage has been passed down for a thousand years.'
This was from a podcast on The Harrying of The North | |
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| Paul Waugh on 23:42 - Jul 5 with 4657 views | tony_roch975 |
| Paul Waugh on 22:45 - Jul 5 by James1980 |
1000 years of levelling up to be done if you agree with the premis of the following
'William had struck Northumbria right through the heart. And a wound like that goes on for far more than 17 years.
The thing about destruction on this scale is that, even when communities and societies rebuild, they do so at a disadvantage.
That loss of political and economic power becomes a static momentum. And other communities, communities that didn’t suffer the same losses, continue building upon their wealth and station (all while Yorkshire is just struggling to become habitable again).
This is where atrocities become inequalities and then inequalities become structural disadvantages. The people living in rich areas often have more political influence than those in poor areas, and so they are more likely to get favorable governmental policies. If you have money to spend, you tend to give it to those who have the power to ask for it. If money needs to be cut…well, it tends to be taken from those who can’t do anything about it. it is much easier to apply unpopular governance to politically weak communities than politically strong ones.
And so, while there are many reasons for wealth disparity, the fact is that after William the North became poorer than the South… and it remains so. That damage has been passed down for a thousand years.'
This was from a podcast on The Harrying of The North |
Fair points but didn't the Industrial revolution temporarily re-balance the wealth inequality of the South over the North, so much so that by 1979 the wealth gap in our Country was at an historical low. It was the de-industrialisation policies of the 1980s neo-liberalism ideology that reignited that inequality - the same neo-liberalism that gave away our water, energy supply, public transport and housing to the private sector...that worked well. | |
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| Paul Waugh on 09:45 - Jul 6 with 4409 views | watford_dale |
| Paul Waugh on 18:48 - Jul 5 by sxdale |
You don't need to build on greenbelt. There are plenty of empty properties above shops in town centre's (and you don't need to build sub standard flats from former office blocks) and there is also the greybelt, derelict industrial sites in now greenbelt land. All it takes is a bit of imagination and not trying to maximise every last penny of profit. |
Also there is a massive need to tell people that you won't own your own home, instill rent caps and hello generation rent.
The prediction for the next 5 years is a slowdown in the price increases up to 2025 and 2025/26 expect 7% increases. Unfortunately wages will not increase by the same percentage points.
Also dispense with right to buy, otherwise there is no social housing coming in the next 5 as Councils will stop the funding. Andy Burnham has called for it to be scrapped to address the housing crisis in Manchester. Plus if you are in there, you are in for a reason and if you can afford it then go and buy in the market and free up the property for someone who needs it. | | | |
| Paul Waugh on 13:23 - Jul 6 with 4244 views | jonahwhereru |
Thought Paul Waugh was good on Breakfast TV this morning. I am hopeful he will be a good MP. Just hope he is not to personally ambitious and put constituents first.
A couple of months ago John Curtice pointed out that the polls had for months shown a 60/40 split for more left leaning voters over right. Not including NI, where the left is more popular, the result of the election was more or less still 60/40. Much of it coalesced around the centre left. In a time where desperation is so evident and many countries are seeing strong moves towards right/far right popularism I think the election result shows our nation in positive light. [Post edited 6 Jul 15:20]
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| Paul Waugh on 15:39 - Jul 6 with 4121 views | DaleFan7 |
| Paul Waugh on 13:23 - Jul 6 by jonahwhereru |
Thought Paul Waugh was good on Breakfast TV this morning. I am hopeful he will be a good MP. Just hope he is not to personally ambitious and put constituents first.
A couple of months ago John Curtice pointed out that the polls had for months shown a 60/40 split for more left leaning voters over right. Not including NI, where the left is more popular, the result of the election was more or less still 60/40. Much of it coalesced around the centre left. In a time where desperation is so evident and many countries are seeing strong moves towards right/far right popularism I think the election result shows our nation in positive light. [Post edited 6 Jul 15:20]
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Yes, there are increases in far right politics going on but I don't get why the people who want to put those already in the country first and stop uncontrolled and illegal immigration are tarred with the 'far right' brush.
The opposite end of the political spectrum is just as bad, has it been the far right protesting and rioting on the streets of France causing shops to board themselves up after election results? There doesn't appear to be any protests of a Labour government over here either, had Reform gained power, would that be the case? | | | |
| Paul Waugh on 20:37 - Jul 6 with 3958 views | jonahwhereru |
| Paul Waugh on 15:39 - Jul 6 by DaleFan7 |
Yes, there are increases in far right politics going on but I don't get why the people who want to put those already in the country first and stop uncontrolled and illegal immigration are tarred with the 'far right' brush.
The opposite end of the political spectrum is just as bad, has it been the far right protesting and rioting on the streets of France causing shops to board themselves up after election results? There doesn't appear to be any protests of a Labour government over here either, had Reform gained power, would that be the case? |
Sorry, not sure if your post and and question are a direct response to my post. I was merely pointing out that as a nation, and I mean nation we are more to the centre left. Although the Greens are furthest to the left of the parties that stood 500 plus candidates, they are are a long way from being a Socialist Worker type regime.
Agree with your point about migration, but you are taking your eye of the ball focusing on uncontrolled /illegal migration. The controlled migration is putting most of the strain on our community services. Sure the Ukraine situation did not help the figures. Controlling migration without hindering growth will be the trick. Ms Cooper and Ms Reeves can argue that out.
As for Reform being in power, while Mr Farage controls 53% of the company and treats it as a fiefdom rather than a party, I think they will struggle to overtake the Conservatives let alone take power. Plus populism tends to fade when people begin to see improvements in their living standards. The facist movement all but disappeared in this country by the mid 60s. [Post edited 6 Jul 20:38]
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| Paul Waugh on 21:23 - Jul 6 with 3908 views | Kentish_Dale |
| Paul Waugh on 15:39 - Jul 6 by DaleFan7 |
Yes, there are increases in far right politics going on but I don't get why the people who want to put those already in the country first and stop uncontrolled and illegal immigration are tarred with the 'far right' brush.
The opposite end of the political spectrum is just as bad, has it been the far right protesting and rioting on the streets of France causing shops to board themselves up after election results? There doesn't appear to be any protests of a Labour government over here either, had Reform gained power, would that be the case? |
I don't think anyone is in favour of uncontrolled and illegal immigration. The boats understandably brings about an emotive response and is being played by Reform like a fiddle.
However, the numbers involved are tiny compared to those who come to live here perfectly legally, the majority but by no means all on student visas.
The higher fees they for higher education largely prop up the way bloated and out of skew university sector (blame Blair). A huge amount of student accomodation has been built in recent years and yet a pitiful amount of family homes, and that with housing being perhaps the single biggest crisis in the UK, along with social care perhaps.
None of the parties have really addressed this. | | | |
| Paul Waugh on 09:30 - Jul 7 with 3644 views | NorthernDale |
Dalefan, the left in France don't seem to need an excuse to riot, but somebody pointed out something on Friday that the left think it is acceptable to disrupt political meetings after the protestors sought to disrupt Reforms press conference. The question posed was 'why is this the case'?
Starmer as a majority and a mandate in terms of MP's, but is it one built on sand, in that only 1/3 third of those who voted, voted for Labour and if you look at the whole electorate in general he received only 1 in 5 of all eligible voters. Many have said it was not a vote for labour, but a vote to remove the tories, so Starmer may find the way forward difficult in the months to come. In respect to Waugh, I hope he will put the town before the Labour party, sadly over the decades I have seen it the other way round. | | | |
| Paul Waugh on 15:45 - Jul 7 with 3435 views | 49thseason |
| Paul Waugh on 09:30 - Jul 7 by NorthernDale |
Dalefan, the left in France don't seem to need an excuse to riot, but somebody pointed out something on Friday that the left think it is acceptable to disrupt political meetings after the protestors sought to disrupt Reforms press conference. The question posed was 'why is this the case'?
Starmer as a majority and a mandate in terms of MP's, but is it one built on sand, in that only 1/3 third of those who voted, voted for Labour and if you look at the whole electorate in general he received only 1 in 5 of all eligible voters. Many have said it was not a vote for labour, but a vote to remove the tories, so Starmer may find the way forward difficult in the months to come. In respect to Waugh, I hope he will put the town before the Labour party, sadly over the decades I have seen it the other way round. |
The questions no one is asking are as follows:
1. Why did Niknak call the election at such short notice, one thought is that he was scared of Farage, which I personally doubt, another being that the world economy is collapsing under the weight of all the QE the cost of loans and the possible collapse of the Petro-Dollar. a huge oil-buying scheme which dominates world oil purchases ( and most other trade too as a consequence) and on which billions of US borrowings are predicated and the reason why commodity prices are set in Dollars.
The Tories had such a lacklustre election, its easy to conclude they didn't actually want to win and be faced by an impending calamity...
2. They may have left Starmer with a huge problem, the Unions will expect big pay rises , where is the money coming from if there literally is none? I am expecting the sort of tax increases that would make a Venezuelan President blush including Haircuts on savings accounts, property, cars, oil and gas , and anything else that has cash attached to it... the option is for a back-to-the -70s era of un-buried bodies, uncollected rubbish and power cuts ..and a 3 day week... its has the ingredients to be very ugly..
3. What was Obama doing in Downing Street a few weeks ago? Nothing we are going to like is the odds on bet, Last time he was there he was attempting to gerrymander the Brexit vote... and I see the un-flushable T Blair is swirling around the pan again demanding Digital ID etc. to stop the illegals , with no mention of what it will do to the vast majority of us...
4. How come another WEF adherent , Macron, also called an ill-timed election?
5. The UK election has been totally parochial, meanwhile world events are turning at a fast pace and all the while a mentally challenged President sits in the white House with the probability of having to run again if only to prevent him and most of his family going to jail. In Europe, there is a large lurch to the Right in progress, Something is afoot. The tide is going out and we are about to find out if we have been swimming without a costume.... |  | | |
| Paul Waugh on 16:45 - Jul 7 with 3337 views | 442Dale |
Suppose returning with another deluge of words and not addressing previous remarks when challenged is true to form. |  |
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| Paul Waugh on 16:45 - Jul 7 with 3337 views | sxdale |
Rumour I heard was there was about to be a vote of no confidence in Sunak, if he called an election to say "if you're going to vote me out then I'm taking you lot with me", fair play to him. | | | |
| Paul Waugh on 16:53 - Jul 7 with 3321 views | D_Alien |
Just as well, James, one was available to save Dale's skin |  |
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| Paul Waugh on 17:29 - Jul 7 with 3265 views | James1980 |
| Paul Waugh on 16:53 - Jul 7 by D_Alien |
Just as well, James, one was available to save Dale's skin |
Be better if that wasn't necessary if working people had more disposable income to spend on things like watching football. But I am grateful for what the Ogden family have done and will do. | |
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| Paul Waugh on 17:41 - Jul 7 with 3239 views | D_Alien |
| Paul Waugh on 17:29 - Jul 7 by James1980 |
Be better if that wasn't necessary if working people had more disposable income to spend on things like watching football. But I am grateful for what the Ogden family have done and will do. |
Oh i agree: let's see what happens to the tax take from "disposable income"
It's a very fine balance Starmer/Reeves will need to tread once the reality of having to increase state funding of the NHS, social care/services, (in themselves a good thing), doctors pay rises, etc hits home
The room for manoeuvre is wafer thin, and there are other places in a global economy for those with funds to spare to invest in - apart from struggling football clubs | |
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| Paul Waugh on 08:24 - Jul 8 with 2951 views | EllGazzell |
Seems like the French don't actually like the rabid right and decided not to push their protest vote too far. Bien joué, bravo mes amis!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/exit-poll-shows-surprise-w
And a note on the "look at other unhappy countries in Europe, they will be joining us out of the EU soon" vibes that some purport:
In Hungary, "anti EU" Orban won't take them out, even though he has total power there and the backing of the Kremlin, as he knows it will bankrupt his grift.
In Poland last year, the youth and those possessing a brain, qued for hours to vote out their anti-EU, right-leaning swine that had taken over their country. Electing the former Brussels superstar - Donald Trusk as PM.
Italian right government - no talk of leaving.
Right wing Slovak Fico - shot by one of his own citizens.
Brexit must always be seen for what it was, a con, leading the UK to become the 1st country in history to vote to apply economic sanctions on itself.
I have been very harsh in the past with Brexit voters, but as I age and mellow and listen to the wonderful James O'Brien on LBC regularly; I have adopted his mantra on Brexit: contempt for the conmen, compassion for the conned.
Hopefully, the new Labour government can be a step in the right direction to heal the wound of Brexit and start the 1st baby steps of the UK coming back into the EU. It will be a long difficult process - the UK is way below the entry minimum requirements currently, BUT, with hard work and the right choices, Britain could once again regain its place in the European family. |  |
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| Paul Waugh on 11:11 - Jul 8 with 2834 views | sxdale |
| Paul Waugh on 08:24 - Jul 8 by EllGazzell |
Seems like the French don't actually like the rabid right and decided not to push their protest vote too far. Bien joué, bravo mes amis!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/07/exit-poll-shows-surprise-w
And a note on the "look at other unhappy countries in Europe, they will be joining us out of the EU soon" vibes that some purport:
In Hungary, "anti EU" Orban won't take them out, even though he has total power there and the backing of the Kremlin, as he knows it will bankrupt his grift.
In Poland last year, the youth and those possessing a brain, qued for hours to vote out their anti-EU, right-leaning swine that had taken over their country. Electing the former Brussels superstar - Donald Trusk as PM.
Italian right government - no talk of leaving.
Right wing Slovak Fico - shot by one of his own citizens.
Brexit must always be seen for what it was, a con, leading the UK to become the 1st country in history to vote to apply economic sanctions on itself.
I have been very harsh in the past with Brexit voters, but as I age and mellow and listen to the wonderful James O'Brien on LBC regularly; I have adopted his mantra on Brexit: contempt for the conmen, compassion for the conned.
Hopefully, the new Labour government can be a step in the right direction to heal the wound of Brexit and start the 1st baby steps of the UK coming back into the EU. It will be a long difficult process - the UK is way below the entry minimum requirements currently, BUT, with hard work and the right choices, Britain could once again regain its place in the European family. |
Have you read / listened to "how they broke Britain" By James O' Brien? Tells you all you need to know about why we are in the s*** we're in in this country. | | | |
| Paul Waugh on 17:00 - Jul 8 with 2668 views | EllGazzell |
| Paul Waugh on 11:11 - Jul 8 by sxdale |
Have you read / listened to "how they broke Britain" By James O' Brien? Tells you all you need to know about why we are in the s*** we're in in this country. |
Not yet, it's on my list of reads. His Radio show is great and has been an essential source of balanced, informed views from 'back home' since I stumbled upon him during lockdown. | |
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| Paul Waugh on 18:54 - Jul 8 with 2548 views | D_Alien |
It's always worth taking the trouble to at least try to understand the electoral systems of countries before commenting
So for instance, in the UK election Labour was able to secure a huge majority with 33.7% of the vote
In France, RN (the party of Marine Le Pen) gathered 37.1% of the vote whilst an informal coalition of the centre-left and left parties stood their candidates down in seats where either had the better chance of defeating RN. Whilst RN expected to do better, the result is a likely hung parliament which resolves very little
The respective vote shares of 33.7% (Labour) and 37.1% (RN) make it very difficult to claim the French have "rejected" RN, unless one were to also claim that voters in the UK had even more decisively "rejected" Labour... which would, of course, be absurd
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| Paul Waugh on 12:27 - Jul 17 with 1859 views | D_Alien |
Good to see that the new parliament will seek to enact the Football Regulator Bill, covering the top five divisions, which was first introduced under the outgoing government
Maybe Paul Waugh could speak about it in the HoC | |
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| Paul Waugh on 17:14 - Sep 10 with 1060 views | turnthescrew |
This excuse for an MP just voted to abolish the winter fuel payment for the elderly. Representing a constituency such as ours he should be deeply ashamed. | | | |
| Paul Waugh on 18:16 - Sep 10 with 823 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| Paul Waugh on 17:14 - Sep 10 by turnthescrew |
This excuse for an MP just voted to abolish the winter fuel payment for the elderly. Representing a constituency such as ours he should be deeply ashamed. |
I guess a fair % of Dale Fans are affected by this decision today looking round our core home support? Me included.It's all well noted about Labour paying off the Train Drivers and the junior Doctors with our money and sucking up to the Unions and gleaning future votes ,but there will be consequences for piggy eyed Starmer.
What do posters on here think, careful it's a controversial topic but say it as it is. | | | |
| Paul Waugh on 18:42 - Sep 10 with 729 views | D_Alien |
I can see the argument that very well-off people shouldn't get the payment, so why not just taper it according to which council tax band you're in?
Wouldn't be perfect but would've been relatively easy to administer and thus avoid all the hassle | |
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