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This will be the first election that I have no idea who to vote for, will never vote Tory again after the lies during covid where my dad lost his life, don’t trust starmer, would never vote for a bunch of racists like reform , anyone give me a clue?
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favourite cheese mature Cheddar. FFS there is no such thing as the EPL
Can't watch any more election tele coverage as Jo's turned over to itv2 watching love island and explaining the sexual dichotomy between joey essex and some tart with a augmented plastic clitoris from brentwood.
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The Duke Of New York. A-Number One.
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General Election Thread on 00:08 - Jul 5 with 1228 views
General Election Thread on 23:43 - Jul 4 by Northernr
Channel 4 is where it's at mate. Great booking. Dorries is two bottles of Echo Falls deep.
I switched over half an hour ago. It’s gold. She is smashed. She’s all over the shop. Maitlis is running rings around her, mainly because she appears to be sober. The rest of the panel are handling her like she’s a loose cannon in a pub and no one wants to get glassed, apart from Campbell who is trying to chuck her out, only for her to come back in through the bathroom window.
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General Election Thread on 00:10 - Jul 5 with 1215 views
General Election Thread on 00:08 - Jul 5 by Hunterhoop
I switched over half an hour ago. It’s gold. She is smashed. She’s all over the shop. Maitlis is running rings around her, mainly because she appears to be sober. The rest of the panel are handling her like she’s a loose cannon in a pub and no one wants to get glassed, apart from Campbell who is trying to chuck her out, only for her to come back in through the bathroom window.
Short odds on her actually chinning somebody/chucking a glass at some point. If you've been around early doors Anne Widdecombe genuinely nearly choked to death on air at about 10.20 which would have been quite a thing. Kwarteng sweating like a two pence piece in a fat man's pocket.
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General Election Thread on 00:11 - Jul 5 with 1212 views
General Election Thread on 00:11 - Jul 5 by Northernr
Awwwww, she's been pulled. Possibly by a mental health practitioner.
Yeah, there has been an intervention. Either that or she threw a shoe at Campbell and stormed off.
Now we have the ex-Chancellor who was investigated and fined by HMRC for not paying his taxes. There really aren’t many Tory MPs who aren’t shambolic, are there?
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General Election Thread on 00:16 - Jul 5 with 1194 views
General Election Thread on 00:14 - Jul 5 by Hunterhoop
Yeah, there has been an intervention. Either that or she threw a shoe at Campbell and stormed off.
Now we have the ex-Chancellor who was investigated and fined by HMRC for not paying his taxes. There really aren’t many Tory MPs who aren’t shambolic, are there?
The whole thing was basically this...
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General Election Thread on 00:29 - Jul 5 with 1122 views
General Election Thread on 00:14 - Jul 5 by Hunterhoop
Yeah, there has been an intervention. Either that or she threw a shoe at Campbell and stormed off.
Now we have the ex-Chancellor who was investigated and fined by HMRC for not paying his taxes. There really aren’t many Tory MPs who aren’t shambolic, are there?
Presume his appearance fee will be paid cash in hand.
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General Election Thread on 00:50 - Jul 5 with 1976 views
1.37 am and I might have been unlucky but that's the first visit Channel 4 have made to Northern Ireland that I've seen, and I've heard very little from Wales or Scotland either.
Sate of the Nation, eh?
"The opposite of love, after all, is not hate, but indifference."
General Election Thread on 01:39 - Jul 5 by BrianMcCarthy
1.37 am and I might have been unlucky but that's the first visit Channel 4 have made to Northern Ireland that I've seen, and I've heard very little from Wales or Scotland either.
Sate of the Nation, eh?
I've been flicking about but have heard a bit from Scotland, once from Wales, yet to hear a Northern Irish report at all.
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General Election Thread on 01:45 - Jul 5 with 1708 views
General Election Thread on 21:18 - Jul 4 by CiderwithRsie
The one other independent I'd look out for (going completely under the radar) is Jason Zadrozny in Ashfield.
Was a very strong second in 2019, his Ashfield Independents party has absolutely eviscerated Tories, Labour and Lib Dems on his local council (32 out of 35 seats in the 2023 elections) and is now up against - Lee Anderson - elected as Tory, defected to RefUK - Tories - Labour, who held the seat previously.
That sets up a four-way contest (unless Zadrozny gets swamped by the Big Boys, which I think unlikely when he has a disciplined local election winning machine behind him) so thecwinning vote is likely to eb quite low, which I think will suit him.
(Zadrozny is one of the more interesting figures in British politics, but you will never hear of him in the national media because he's not in a national party and he's not an obvious grifter like Galloway or Farage.)
You got my hopes up. Anderson has won comfortably.
Some fun swings to Labour though where Reform have taken a big old chunk out of the Tories so I’ll take it.
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General Election Thread on 02:41 - Jul 5 with 1572 views
General Election Thread on 01:40 - Jul 5 by Northernr
I've been flicking about but have heard a bit from Scotland, once from Wales, yet to hear a Northern Irish report at all.
BBC went to Belfast a bit earlier and they talked about it being a potentially bad night for the DUP who've usually held the most seats there in the past.
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General Election Thread on 02:55 - Jul 5 with 1527 views
General Election Thread on 02:24 - Jul 5 by Watford_Ranger
You got my hopes up. Anderson has won comfortably.
Some fun swings to Labour though where Reform have taken a big old chunk out of the Tories so I’ll take it.
No great surprise on Anderson.
Ashfield is just the other side of the M1 from Ripley and Heanor, my first ever local newspaper - came out once a week, two reporters and one for sport.
Old mining community, hated the Tories after the 80s and elected a hip and happening Labour babe Judy Mallaber in 97. Utterly unremarkable, the kindest thing I can say is when the expenses scandal blew up she (much to my disappointment on the paper) had never claimed a penny for anything. She even paid for her own fcking train ticket back and forth from Derby to St Pancras. Went Tory with David Cameron, an absolute chinless wonder who used to sleep through council meetings - Nigel Mills. Two career ladder climbers really, didn't give a single solitary sht about the local constituency.
I mean, Ashfield is next to Bolsover which was famously/infamously Dennis Skinner forever and ever.
When I was working there, 2006-2010, you could see this sort of thing building. BNP actually got some people on the local council there while I was covering it. The BNP held their annual festival there, on a farm owned by a guy called Alan Warner, who constantly gave the impression somebody had whacked him in the side of the head with a flat-bottomed pan shortly before he spoke to you. It was called 'The Red, White and Blue'. It was a cross between the Nuremberg Rallies and Blackpool Pleasure Beach. I got a bollocking because the Saturday turned into a riot between ANTIFA, the police and the festival goers, and I'd bunked off to go and watch us at Sheff Utd - Billy Sharp scored a hat trick within the first 25 minutes, so I probably chose poorly.
I struggled to get my head around the place, working there, because they were rabidly afraid of and angry about immigration taking their homes, jobs etc. And yet in the census that came out when I worked there it was officially the most 'white British' place in the country - Ripley, something ridiculous like 96% white English. You never saw, met, anybody remotely foreign. A black guy on the high street in Ripley might have made us a page 5 lead.
But the more you spend time there and speak to the people and cover the council meetings you can see how and why it happens.
This is a big failing in our country, the collapse of local newspapers. Wards like that are viewed as sort of quaint little theme parks, picked up for 15 seconds on nights like this as sort of "oooh isn't that weird". But there's no real deep dives or understanding as to why that is, or what's going on there, why they're voting the way they are, what they're upset about and why they're upset. You need to spend time in these places, live there, work there, cover them, drink with them - sit in the Red Lion on Ripley Market Place and listen to your readers. Not just gaze at them from London and dismiss them as provincial racist weirdos.
In that information vacuum, opportunists and chancer profit by providing a villain to hate.
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General Election Thread on 03:14 - Jul 5 with 1496 views
Just to add, this is the first election since my Dad passed. I used to watch them with him through the night. The first one was in 1983 when I was 15 and he let me stay up with him. The last one in 2019 we didn't stay up too late as it was a disaster for Labour. Just thinking about him a lot tonight. He would be telling the latest Tory to do one as they lost their seats tonight.
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Smells like a trout farm in here
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General Election Thread on 03:31 - Jul 5 with 1474 views