| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:16 - Dec 7 with 835 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:11 - Dec 7 by bluey_the_blue |
Not at all. Antisemites are antisemites after all.
You and others seem oblivious to the difference in scale between the parties. |
Not at all. We’re also not oblivious to your huge hypocrisy in the matter. |  |
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| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:16 - Dec 7 with 834 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:13 - Dec 7 by londonlisa2001 |
No they haven’t been. |
Thought they would have been pending investigation, not that it really matters as remain on ballot paper as Tories anyways. |  | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:19 - Dec 7 with 823 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:16 - Dec 7 by bluey_the_blue |
Thought they would have been pending investigation, not that it really matters as remain on ballot paper as Tories anyways. |
Wouldn’t it be the right thing to do though? | |
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| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:20 - Dec 7 with 817 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:19 - Dec 7 by exiledclaseboy |
Wouldn’t it be the right thing to do though? |
I would say so. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:28 - Dec 7 with 807 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:16 - Dec 7 by bluey_the_blue |
Thought they would have been pending investigation, not that it really matters as remain on ballot paper as Tories anyways. |
Nope.
No action has been taken.
So what were you congratulating the Tories for doing promptly?
And I’d bet that you wouldn’t say ‘not that it really matters’ if any Labour person had done what hart has done.
As I said yesterday, if you don’t really care then so be it, but if you do, you have to actually care about prejudice, not just pretend to care because you want to pay less tax. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:33 - Dec 7 with 799 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:28 - Dec 7 by londonlisa2001 |
Nope.
No action has been taken.
So what were you congratulating the Tories for doing promptly?
And I’d bet that you wouldn’t say ‘not that it really matters’ if any Labour person had done what hart has done.
As I said yesterday, if you don’t really care then so be it, but if you do, you have to actually care about prejudice, not just pretend to care because you want to pay less tax. |
Lisa, given the antisemitism my family have received, please go fvck yourself if you believe I'm not sincere in fighting it. Maybe you're not that sincere given your desire to seemingly equate a handful of instances with 15000 pages of evidence provided to EHRC, eh?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50700874
"No action", ooops, being investigated.
My point about "not mattering" was they remain on the ballot paper as Tories regardless. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:34 - Dec 7 with 798 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:13 - Dec 7 by exiledclaseboy |
Really? You disappoint me hugely. 
Although during our courting days about 20+ years ago I sang Love on the Rocks very loudly from start to finish to Mrs C in the No Sign Wine Bar. She very quickly went from being charmed to hugely embarrassed and finally to “shut the f*ck up you tw@t” angry. Didn’t stop me though. I was on a tear. |
Honestly. I love it.
Fun fact. The woman who plays Neil Diamond’s love interest in that film is the daughter of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:37 - Dec 7 with 789 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:34 - Dec 7 by londonlisa2001 |
Honestly. I love it.
Fun fact. The woman who plays Neil Diamond’s love interest in that film is the daughter of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz. |
Another fun fact. There was no need to dismantle the set when shooting wrapped because there wasn’t much left after Laurence Olivier had finished chewing it. | |
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| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:39 - Dec 7 with 783 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:33 - Dec 7 by bluey_the_blue |
Lisa, given the antisemitism my family have received, please go fvck yourself if you believe I'm not sincere in fighting it. Maybe you're not that sincere given your desire to seemingly equate a handful of instances with 15000 pages of evidence provided to EHRC, eh?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50700874
"No action", ooops, being investigated.
My point about "not mattering" was they remain on the ballot paper as Tories regardless. |
I haven’t remotely equated it Bluey. I’ve said any number of times Labour has a real issue.
But the Tories have an issue as well. With all sorts of racism, including anti semitism.
And your reaction was not the same. You congratulated the Tories when they have taken absolutely no action whatsoever.
The difference between you and I is that I think both parties have a huge issue and so I won’t vote for either of them. You are still going to vote for one of them even though you KNOW they also have issues. My point to you is that if you are doing that, then how can you criticise those doing exactly the same the other way round? Either you care enough about all forms of bigotry to make a stand and not vote for it, or you don’t. You are voting to put in place a PM that is a bigot. So you can’t ever moan about Corbyn for the same thing. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:40 - Dec 7 with 780 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:39 - Dec 7 by londonlisa2001 |
I haven’t remotely equated it Bluey. I’ve said any number of times Labour has a real issue.
But the Tories have an issue as well. With all sorts of racism, including anti semitism.
And your reaction was not the same. You congratulated the Tories when they have taken absolutely no action whatsoever.
The difference between you and I is that I think both parties have a huge issue and so I won’t vote for either of them. You are still going to vote for one of them even though you KNOW they also have issues. My point to you is that if you are doing that, then how can you criticise those doing exactly the same the other way round? Either you care enough about all forms of bigotry to make a stand and not vote for it, or you don’t. You are voting to put in place a PM that is a bigot. So you can’t ever moan about Corbyn for the same thing. |
What constituency are you in? | |
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| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:44 - Dec 7 with 772 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:39 - Dec 7 by londonlisa2001 |
I haven’t remotely equated it Bluey. I’ve said any number of times Labour has a real issue.
But the Tories have an issue as well. With all sorts of racism, including anti semitism.
And your reaction was not the same. You congratulated the Tories when they have taken absolutely no action whatsoever.
The difference between you and I is that I think both parties have a huge issue and so I won’t vote for either of them. You are still going to vote for one of them even though you KNOW they also have issues. My point to you is that if you are doing that, then how can you criticise those doing exactly the same the other way round? Either you care enough about all forms of bigotry to make a stand and not vote for it, or you don’t. You are voting to put in place a PM that is a bigot. So you can’t ever moan about Corbyn for the same thing. |
They've announced investigation straight away.
How many years for Livingstone, Walker, Williamson et al?
Nah, the difference is you want to equate a small number of instances with the institutional antisemitism within Labour. The issues are nowhere near the same in volume yet you want to pretend it is for some strange reason.
Antisemitism and racism are everywhere. Claiming the levels within Tories are even comparable to that within Labour is quite frankly laughable - for one thing, an EHRC complaint in "retaliation" would've been launched. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:44 - Dec 7 with 773 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:37 - Dec 7 by exiledclaseboy |
Another fun fact. There was no need to dismantle the set when shooting wrapped because there wasn’t much left after Laurence Olivier had finished chewing it. |
It’s his performance that makes the film even better.
It’s genuinely hilarious. The bit where he rips his lapel is awesome. As is his generic middle European accent. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:46 - Dec 7 with 765 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:40 - Dec 7 by exiledclaseboy |
What constituency are you in? |
Hammersmith.
My MP is Andy Slaughter (very nice guy). Labour. He’ll win. I won’t vote for him. I’ve told him why.
Obviously I also won’t vote Tory. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:50 - Dec 7 with 758 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:44 - Dec 7 by bluey_the_blue |
They've announced investigation straight away.
How many years for Livingstone, Walker, Williamson et al?
Nah, the difference is you want to equate a small number of instances with the institutional antisemitism within Labour. The issues are nowhere near the same in volume yet you want to pretend it is for some strange reason.
Antisemitism and racism are everywhere. Claiming the levels within Tories are even comparable to that within Labour is quite frankly laughable - for one thing, an EHRC complaint in "retaliation" would've been launched. |
“Nah, the difference is you want to equate a small number of instances with the institutional antisemitism within Labour. The issues are nowhere near the same in volume yet you want to pretend it is for some strange reason. ”
Stop making stuff up.
The issues with anti semitism are not the same. The issues with racism and bigotry are the same.
The bloody leader of the Tory party is a bigot. The membership overwhelmingly voted for him. Don’t you get that? They don’t give a shit about Islamophobia, anti semitism (apart from when it suits them to have a go at Labour), homophobia. Johnson was asked a question in the problem with Islamophobia in the Tories last night and his answer was ‘get brexit done’. Even the former chair of the Tories tweeted about how shocking an answer that was.
You’re a hypocrite. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:51 - Dec 7 with 755 views | ladyjack |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:46 - Dec 7 by londonlisa2001 |
Hammersmith.
My MP is Andy Slaughter (very nice guy). Labour. He’ll win. I won’t vote for him. I’ve told him why.
Obviously I also won’t vote Tory. |
Who are you going to vote for then Lisa ?, Lib-Dems again is it. |  | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:51 - Dec 7 with 752 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:51 - Dec 7 by ladyjack |
Who are you going to vote for then Lisa ?, Lib-Dems again is it. |
Possibly. Possibly the Green Party. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:52 - Dec 7 with 748 views | ladyjack |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:51 - Dec 7 by londonlisa2001 |
Possibly. Possibly the Green Party. |
Like it. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:53 - Dec 7 with 745 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:46 - Dec 7 by londonlisa2001 |
Hammersmith.
My MP is Andy Slaughter (very nice guy). Labour. He’ll win. I won’t vote for him. I’ve told him why.
Obviously I also won’t vote Tory. |
Ah yeah. Solid labour. You have free reign to cast a vote for neither safe in the knowledge that it won’t matter. Not a bad position to be in to be honest. | |
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| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:56 - Dec 7 with 735 views | exiledclaseboy |
I read an interesting titbit the other day about anti semitic tropes in Boris Johnson’s one and only novel from around the early 2000s. Can’t remember the details but dismissed it as it can’t be true because Bluey would have told us all by now. | |
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| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:57 - Dec 7 with 731 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:56 - Dec 7 by exiledclaseboy |
I read an interesting titbit the other day about anti semitic tropes in Boris Johnson’s one and only novel from around the early 2000s. Can’t remember the details but dismissed it as it can’t be true because Bluey would have told us all by now. |
I'd be interested in taking a look if you can provide a link. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:57 - Dec 7 with 732 views | Catullus |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:04 - Dec 5 by ladyjack |
Boris has no principles and only cares about himself and does what is best for himself, Corbyn does have left wing principles, Corbyn being sympathetic to discriminated colonised peoples is being true to himself. |
I disagree, Bojo does have principles, the main one being the principle of always doing what's best for him. A principle doesn't have to be good!
Corbyn is arguably the lesser of two evils but he is still a liar, a deceiver, a maker of false promises such as the promise not to borrow unless it is for investment which was broken when he made his "WASPI promise. and the promise about tuition fees which later became a target rather than a promise. | |
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| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:58 - Dec 7 with 730 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:53 - Dec 7 by exiledclaseboy |
Ah yeah. Solid labour. You have free reign to cast a vote for neither safe in the knowledge that it won’t matter. Not a bad position to be in to be honest. |
Our neighbouring constituencies, Kensington one way and Richmond the other, will be more interesting.
I’d vote LibDem in either of them anyway. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:59 - Dec 7 with 724 views | ladyjack |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:57 - Dec 7 by Catullus |
I disagree, Bojo does have principles, the main one being the principle of always doing what's best for him. A principle doesn't have to be good!
Corbyn is arguably the lesser of two evils but he is still a liar, a deceiver, a maker of false promises such as the promise not to borrow unless it is for investment which was broken when he made his "WASPI promise. and the promise about tuition fees which later became a target rather than a promise. |
There is no comparison. | | | |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 19:02 - Dec 7 with 718 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:58 - Dec 7 by londonlisa2001 |
Our neighbouring constituencies, Kensington one way and Richmond the other, will be more interesting.
I’d vote LibDem in either of them anyway. |
Kensington has former Bucks Fizz alumni Jay Aston standing for Farage. That’s hilarious. Goldsmith will lose if there’s a god. | |
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| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 19:06 - Dec 7 with 701 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Breaking anti-Semitism news on 18:57 - Dec 7 by Catullus |
I disagree, Bojo does have principles, the main one being the principle of always doing what's best for him. A principle doesn't have to be good!
Corbyn is arguably the lesser of two evils but he is still a liar, a deceiver, a maker of false promises such as the promise not to borrow unless it is for investment which was broken when he made his "WASPI promise. and the promise about tuition fees which later became a target rather than a promise. |
What promise about tuition fees? It was in the 2017 manifesto to abolish them wasn't it? |  |
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