| Oh sh!t on 17:58 - Apr 3 with 7303 views | jack_lord |
At this stage they have been unable to determine its origin.
If it wasn't Russia, it was the CIA or China trying to stir trouble up. |  |
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| Oh sh!t on 18:04 - Apr 3 with 7257 views | Darran |
That’s not what the head of Porton Down said in his interview on the news mind.
He said it’s not their job to establish where it came from just what it was. |  |
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| Oh sh!t on 18:17 - Apr 3 with 7224 views | pikeypaul |
PMSL
The Guardian ? it says it all.
And if you had watched what the guy said on the news he said it was not their job to establish where it came from just what it was and other sources had been used to establish where it had come from something Porton Down were not involved in.
But hey let the loony lefties have their 2 minutes of excitement .
How fecking desperate have the guardian got?
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| Oh sh!t on 18:17 - Apr 3 with 7222 views | jack_lord |
Russia blaming our secret service with No.10 saying "well. you would say that wouldn't you" | |
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| Oh sh!t on 18:21 - Apr 3 with 7195 views | Darran |
| Oh sh!t on 18:17 - Apr 3 by pikeypaul |
PMSL
The Guardian ? it says it all.
And if you had watched what the guy said on the news he said it was not their job to establish where it came from just what it was and other sources had been used to establish where it had come from something Porton Down were not involved in.
But hey let the loony lefties have their 2 minutes of excitement .
How fecking desperate have the guardian got?
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PIkey is right here mind. The Sky interviewer tried over and over again to get the fella to say they were unable to say the nerve agent was Russian but he didn’t say it. | |
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| Oh sh!t on 18:25 - Apr 3 with 7183 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
Oh good something that we can all interpret.
Watch out for falsely drawn conclusions! |  |
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| Oh sh!t on 18:27 - Apr 3 with 7168 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Oh sh!t on 18:21 - Apr 3 by Darran |
PIkey is right here mind. The Sky interviewer tried over and over again to get the fella to say they were unable to say the nerve agent was Russian but he didn’t say it. |
Could you translate that? |  |
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| Oh sh!t on 18:30 - Apr 3 with 7162 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Oh sh!t on 18:17 - Apr 3 by pikeypaul |
PMSL
The Guardian ? it says it all.
And if you had watched what the guy said on the news he said it was not their job to establish where it came from just what it was and other sources had been used to establish where it had come from something Porton Down were not involved in.
But hey let the loony lefties have their 2 minutes of excitement .
How fecking desperate have the guardian got?
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If you actually read the Guardian article rather than the misinterpretation of the OP, it says exactly the same thing. Origin was proved by other means, they just say what it is. |  | | |
| Oh sh!t on 18:33 - Apr 3 with 7152 views | Whiterockin |
Russian ministers suggest that British secret services carried out Skripal poisoning to distract from Brexit
Now the Ruskies are blaming Brexit.  |  | | |
| Oh sh!t on 18:42 - Apr 3 with 7123 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Oh sh!t on 18:33 - Apr 3 by Whiterockin |
Russian ministers suggest that British secret services carried out Skripal poisoning to distract from Brexit
Now the Ruskies are blaming Brexit. |
The UK government are asking Russia for "a proportianate response"? What, like the one the UK gave them? F*cking cretins | |
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| Oh sh!t on 18:44 - Apr 3 with 7118 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Oh sh!t on 18:30 - Apr 3 by londonlisa2001 |
If you actually read the Guardian article rather than the misinterpretation of the OP, it says exactly the same thing. Origin was proved by other means, they just say what it is. |
Ok then Lisa .... these ‘other means’ .... what are they ? and who has independently verified as fact ?
Sounds like the UK govt are on very shaky ground ?
Who would have thunk it ? |  |
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| Oh sh!t on 18:50 - Apr 3 with 7102 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Oh sh!t on 18:44 - Apr 3 by Kilkennyjack |
Ok then Lisa .... these ‘other means’ .... what are they ? and who has independently verified as fact ?
Sounds like the UK govt are on very shaky ground ?
Who would have thunk it ? |
It's long been completely bloody obvious that we have intelligence that shows who it is. That'll be why the government, the opposition, the SNP, the EU, the USA etc etc etc all agree with our actions. Obviously not you though, as you require special briefings, possibly individually. Perhaps they'll convene COBRA for you.
They've always said that the chemical analysis wouldn't point to a country. Strangely, I suspect, although I'm not a chemist, that an element in one country is the same as an element in another. Unless Russians have different chemical elements to us of course... | | | |
| Oh sh!t on 18:54 - Apr 3 with 7078 views | union_jack |
| Oh sh!t on 18:50 - Apr 3 by londonlisa2001 |
It's long been completely bloody obvious that we have intelligence that shows who it is. That'll be why the government, the opposition, the SNP, the EU, the USA etc etc etc all agree with our actions. Obviously not you though, as you require special briefings, possibly individually. Perhaps they'll convene COBRA for you.
They've always said that the chemical analysis wouldn't point to a country. Strangely, I suspect, although I'm not a chemist, that an element in one country is the same as an element in another. Unless Russians have different chemical elements to us of course... |
It's strange when someone wants something desperately to be the case they ignore all reason pointing to the opposite!! You're banging your head against a brick wall with Killy I think Lisa. |  |
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| Oh sh!t on 18:55 - Apr 3 with 7078 views | NeathJack |
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| Oh sh!t on 18:59 - Apr 3 with 7056 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Oh sh!t on 18:50 - Apr 3 by londonlisa2001 |
It's long been completely bloody obvious that we have intelligence that shows who it is. That'll be why the government, the opposition, the SNP, the EU, the USA etc etc etc all agree with our actions. Obviously not you though, as you require special briefings, possibly individually. Perhaps they'll convene COBRA for you.
They've always said that the chemical analysis wouldn't point to a country. Strangely, I suspect, although I'm not a chemist, that an element in one country is the same as an element in another. Unless Russians have different chemical elements to us of course... |
So ....it could be somebody other than the Russians then ?
Thats still the bottom line.
No I dont need a briefing tbh, just independent verification.
And I think thats preferable to old fashioned blind faith.
Hold these people in government to the same standards as a court of law.
Can you imagine ?
Putin did it m’lord ....
Evidence ...?
I cant tell you
No problem at all, guilty as charged ... next please ... | |
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| Oh sh!t on 19:05 - Apr 3 with 7035 views | Kilkennyjack |
Neathjack wins the internet.
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| Oh sh!t on 19:08 - Apr 3 with 7025 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Oh sh!t on 18:59 - Apr 3 by Kilkennyjack |
So ....it could be somebody other than the Russians then ?
Thats still the bottom line.
No I dont need a briefing tbh, just independent verification.
And I think thats preferable to old fashioned blind faith.
Hold these people in government to the same standards as a court of law.
Can you imagine ?
Putin did it m’lord ....
Evidence ...?
I cant tell you
No problem at all, guilty as charged ... next please ... |
No. As I said, it's long been obvious that we have intelligence other than the chemical analysis which was always said wouldn't identify the country of origin. it would identify whether it was likely to be State made, or not apparently. And they have said it was State made. I have no idea how they know that.
What independent verification would suit you ? Them saying why we know what we know? Even if that meant given information to Russia about, for example, what technology GCHQ are using?
Or wouldnt you believe that either? And we have provided evidence to the privy council (which is why Corbyn supports the action), the EU (which is why they do), the US (ditto). We just haven't provided it to you. A bloke on a Swans website. Same as evidence in trials is not necessarily made public but you accept the verdict of the jury.
Anyway. I can't be bothered anymore. Believe it, don't believe it. I don't care. | | | |
| Oh sh!t on 19:13 - Apr 3 with 7006 views | dickythorpe |
Heisenberg it was |  | | |
| Oh sh!t on 19:14 - Apr 3 with 7003 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Oh sh!t on 18:21 - Apr 3 by Darran |
PIkey is right here mind. The Sky interviewer tried over and over again to get the fella to say they were unable to say the nerve agent was Russian but he didn’t say it. |
If he didn’t say it was that probably tells you all you need to know. |  |
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| Oh sh!t on 19:14 - Apr 3 with 7003 views | union_jack |
| Oh sh!t on 19:08 - Apr 3 by londonlisa2001 |
No. As I said, it's long been obvious that we have intelligence other than the chemical analysis which was always said wouldn't identify the country of origin. it would identify whether it was likely to be State made, or not apparently. And they have said it was State made. I have no idea how they know that.
What independent verification would suit you ? Them saying why we know what we know? Even if that meant given information to Russia about, for example, what technology GCHQ are using?
Or wouldnt you believe that either? And we have provided evidence to the privy council (which is why Corbyn supports the action), the EU (which is why they do), the US (ditto). We just haven't provided it to you. A bloke on a Swans website. Same as evidence in trials is not necessarily made public but you accept the verdict of the jury.
Anyway. I can't be bothered anymore. Believe it, don't believe it. I don't care. |
Maybe the reason we know it's origin is a secret in itself and can't be divulged personally.
I don't know, but nor does Killy. He just chooses the anti state agenda. | |
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| Oh sh!t on 19:20 - Apr 3 with 6990 views | Phil_S |
| Oh sh!t on 18:17 - Apr 3 by pikeypaul |
PMSL
The Guardian ? it says it all.
And if you had watched what the guy said on the news he said it was not their job to establish where it came from just what it was and other sources had been used to establish where it had come from something Porton Down were not involved in.
But hey let the loony lefties have their 2 minutes of excitement .
How fecking desperate have the guardian got?
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I'm sure I am missing something but what does 360 AFLI stand for? |  | | |
| Oh sh!t on 19:51 - Apr 3 with 6933 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Oh sh!t on 19:20 - Apr 3 by Phil_S |
I'm sure I am missing something but what does 360 AFLI stand for? |
It’s his car number plate |  |
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| Oh sh!t on 19:54 - Apr 3 with 6920 views | Darran |
| Oh sh!t on 19:20 - Apr 3 by Phil_S |
I'm sure I am missing something but what does 360 AFLI stand for? |
What’s it all about? | |
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| Oh sh!t on 19:57 - Apr 3 with 6908 views | union_jack |
| Oh sh!t on 19:54 - Apr 3 by Darran |
What’s it all about? |
Number of days to Brexit but can't work out exactly what AFLI stands for. | |
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