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Should We Have A Name For Our Neighbours From Across The Forest ?
Friday, 31st Mar 2017 10:39 by The Archbishop Of Banterbury

Saints and Pompey fans have a name for each other and now with Bournemouth desperately trying to join in with the party, should we have a term of endearment for them.

The Saints/Pompey thing really started off in the 1960's and for two decades was a very one sided thing, as we went up to the top flight and left them behind in 1966, they started to become a little bitter and struggled to take the fact that they were no longer top dogs.

Apart from two seasons 74/75 and 75/76 our paths rarely crossed apart from testimonial games and sometime around that period our friends from down the east end of the A27 (No M back then) came up with the phrase "scummers" for us, it wasn't original several other clubs where using it, but in typical Pompey style they plagiarised something and tried to make out it was their own.

Meanwhile we did not care much and that annoyed them very much.

In the 1980's things hotted up though, a very violent FA Cup clash at Fratton in 1984 ignited things a little and things started to go from bad to worse.

The 87/88 season saw them in the top flight for the first time in 30 years and although they soon went back down, Saints fans were stating to realise that they had a rival.

Back then the insult "Scummers" was thrown back at them, but in 1989 a contributor to the The Ugly Inside fanzine decided that it was time that we got a bit original about calling them names in the playground.

Several insulting suggestions were made, but the term "Skates" was selected for a particular reason and that reason was that we knew it would particularly get up their nose.

Calling us scummers didn't really bother us, after all virtually every other team was calling their rivals scummers, it was nothing new, but Skates really got under their skin.

The reason being was that it was actually a naval phrase, or at least connected to ports than were home to the Royal Navy, those in Portsmouth and Plymouth etc called the sailors in their town Skates for a reason that isn't suitable for a family website, but is to do with the sexual organs of that fish.

When the name was announced in the Ugly it brought much indignation from our (now) fishy friends who spent many fanzine pages telling us how we were misguided and that it was Sailors who were Skates not the residents of Pompey.

It was doing it's job in just the way it was intended and soon the phrase entered everyday language in Southampton, we had a term of endearment that was both insulting but more importantly exclusive in the world of football abuse.

Now our friends from across the forest are jealous of the rivalry that we have with Pompey, they themselves has no such target they can aim their vitriol at, towards the West is Exeter, they don't consider Bournemouth rivals, to the North it used to be Bristol or Swindon and they don't think of Bournemouth much.

That left them looking across the New Forest, the problem was that we aren't interested, indeed even worse than that, we actually quite liked them and would regularly send teams and a couple of thousand fans down to boost their coffers everytime they headed towards bankruptcy.

This enraged them even more and for some reason they started to call us Scummers and pretend that it was something they were in on.

To be honest for 50 plus years we had been in a different stratosphere from them as a football club, they played in front of crowds that averaged between 3-5000 at best and apart from a season or two in the old second division in the late 80's had flirted between the bottom two divisions for all of that time. Even Pompey did a bit better than that.

But 2010 changed that, for the first time in over half a century we met them on a level playing field and we came out on top and those Saints fans who popped down to Dean Court to watch them from time to time noticed that a section of their support seemed to revel in frothing at the mouth and calling us scummers, not just in the odd song, but in general conversation.

It was all rather strange really, a bit like Tranmere trying to muscle in on the Merseyside Derby or Barnet the North London one, in fact the Tranmere reference is perhaps not a good one as apart from the past three seasons the Birkenhead club have had a more illustrious history than the Cherries.

So the big question is should we think up of a suitable moniker for Bournemouth fans ? or should we just go on ignoring them ?

Personally I don't think it would catch on we just don't have enough animosity towards them, we don't compete with them at any sort of level away from football, with Pompey it's not just a football rivalry, it's everything down to who has the best chip shops or most scenic bit of the M27, sorry Bournemouth but it just isn't the same.

But as it's a big occasion on Saturday with the return of Premier League football to St Mary's after a two month break, perhaps for a bit of fun we could decide what we would refer to Bournemouth fans as, if we cared enough to bother.

I have come up with several suggestions and after editing out the rude ones have come up with.

Deckies - As in Deckchair Attendants, this is of course the major source of employment in Bournemouth and there are 4,235 registered deckchair attendants in the area, indeed it has always been said that f you want to find the way to Dean Court you will see two queues, get in the smaller ne as the biggest one is for deckchairs.

Chippies - This could be another seaside reference due to for many years the most exciting thing to do in the resort was eat fish and chips whilst walking along the seafront, but is actually more to the fact that so many of their newly acquired fanbase seem to have chips on their shoulders about Southampton.

Grockles _ Now this is my favourite as it follows the same pattern as how we chose Pompey's insult/name, a Grockle is a Dorset term for a tourist, someone who is not from the area, this would really get up their noses in the same way it enraged the Blue Few.

So that's three suggestions from me, does anyone else have any suggestions or should we just let the relationship continue as it has done for 100 years or so where we can't find it in ourselves to think much bad about them even when we play them.

Give your comments below, of course Bournemouth fans are welcome to put in their on suggustions, after all this is a rivalry they are very much trying to manufacture themselves without getting a trade agreement in place first, it would be very apt if they actually came up with their own name and presented us with a full dossier of how we now have new rivals and how we should address them !

Of course this is intended as a bit of fun and I would hope that the majority of Bournemouth fans will take it as such.

Lastly though spare a thought for our neighbours to the East, they are feeling very neglected this weekend, as 32,000 troop into St Mary's on Saturday afternoon, 400 Pompey fans will be trooping out of Hartlepool's ground with the rest of the Blue Few sat in front of their TV set's waiting to cheer Bournemouth on.

That perhaps puts things into context, for Saints and Pompey fans there is only one rivalry that matters !!!!

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patred added 11:42 - Mar 31
if our other neighbours have a fishy name...we should christain our new ones CHIPPIES......Skate and Chips anyone?
In the east coast seaside resorts they call short term holiday makers chippies, it denotes those who are only temporary visitors, and thier perpensity to live on chips, pretty apt as B'mouth are only temporary to the PL.
They have certainly got big chips on thier shoulders concerning us.
So Chippies seems good to me
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IWOZTHERE added 11:55 - Mar 31
Shorten Bournemuff to 'MUFFERS'.
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ChristchurchSaint added 13:13 - Mar 31
Don't think we should give them one at all- it means we are sinking to their pathetic level. If we must, then Chippies is ideal. When I was working, and had to suffer their attempts at trying to wind me up, the chips on their shoulders were laughable and so obvious. Let them just get more annoyed when we don't respond 😆😆😆😆!
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BoondockSaint added 13:20 - Mar 31
We could just shorten IWOZTHERE's "MUFFERS" to "MUFFS" If we are keeping the tradition of borderline "not suitable for a family website', terms, but then again, "CHERRIES" already fits that category!

If we don't want to go down that (low) road, and since this rivalry thing is all in their heads, how about the 'WANNABES"? Then we could change the lyrics of the Spice Girls song to "If you wannabe be our rivals, you better get in line behind the Skates!"
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ItchenNorth added 13:25 - Mar 31
Why bother.
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SaintBrock added 13:44 - Mar 31
How about Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic?

AFC Bournemouth. I mean, what is that all about anyway. Affected, Moi?

In fact I have seen Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic play Saints far more times than I've seen AFC Bournemouth play us anyway.
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joedatsun added 16:32 - Mar 31
I'm pretty sure they were calling us scummers when they played at the Dell in the League Cup in the eighties. Why shoukd we take it seriously, they'll be back at their natural level before too long.
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dillydog added 17:21 - Mar 31
seaweeders.......
A bit like our Skate neighbours, lives on the seabed and can be found on the beach rotting
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SaintBrock added 19:01 - Mar 31
That went well Mick, everyone on minus likes!
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dillydog added 19:23 - Mar 31
seaweeders.......
A bit like our Skate neighbours, lives on the seabed and can be found on the beach rotting
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arfurdent added 08:17 - Apr 1
Bumfluff should suffice
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simmo400 added 12:06 - Apr 1
Bournemouth Bumkins. Easy.
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Jesus_02 added 16:09 - Apr 3
I quite like Bournemouth it has a lovely sea life center and a popular beach. Part of me prefers boscome, because of the peir.

Sorry for a while i forgot this was a football website

Maybe we could just shout speedo's at them... you know because of the beach and that
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