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Not sure if this is a thing but the moderator on a forum I use just mentioned that the government are bringing in sweeping online reforms for any sites that 'enable communication' between users.
While it's meant to be targeting 'big tech' it will apply to every forum that is based in the UK.
There's all sorts of new compliance and threats of fines for anyone who doesn't meet it (of up to 18 million). Anyway, a few forums are just going 'NOPE' and saying they'll shut down in March. I saw a link to some dull-assed London cycling forum that's been going for 15 years or something and the guy is like 'f**k all this' and shutting up shop. But he explains it all better than the official Ofcom site.
Anyway, it's far too early in the morning for me to understand regulatory tech gubbins and I'm on a big Teams meeting at work right now but F*CK.
Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.
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Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 09:20 - Dec 18 with 2548 views
Appreciate social media platforms are wildly out of control and a lot of illegal content, bullying, fraudsters prevalent etc
But to over pol8ce just general interest forums such as these and how sites are moderated is open to who exactly is moderating then etc with their own biases etc.
Keir Starmer on a mission to becoming world's most unpopular man in record time.
I would consider real crimes like burgarly, assault or intimidation etc much more worthy of police time as opposed to someone saying something that has upset someone.
I got pulled up couple days ago for a silly wind up so by these rules, the forum could be seen to be out of control and need more regulation.
Obviously didn't agree with the riots etc after the tragic stabbings of the three young girls but people of previously clean criminal records getting three year jail sentences for single social media posts that incited violence and race hatred was madly over the top and letting out long term criminals early in recent times who have committed rapes and aggravated assaults battering etc.
Guy I know been burgled recently. Two weeks later, police not attended. They just think the possibility for conviction minimal. Blimey
I know everyone says the worlds gone mad when they getting a bit older
But I reckon even the twentyssomethings will think all this is totally nuts
Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 20:23 - Dec 18 by numptydumpty
Good God !!!
Appreciate social media platforms are wildly out of control and a lot of illegal content, bullying, fraudsters prevalent etc
But to over pol8ce just general interest forums such as these and how sites are moderated is open to who exactly is moderating then etc with their own biases etc.
Keir Starmer on a mission to becoming world's most unpopular man in record time.
I would consider real crimes like burgarly, assault or intimidation etc much more worthy of police time as opposed to someone saying something that has upset someone.
I got pulled up couple days ago for a silly wind up so by these rules, the forum could be seen to be out of control and need more regulation.
Obviously didn't agree with the riots etc after the tragic stabbings of the three young girls but people of previously clean criminal records getting three year jail sentences for single social media posts that incited violence and race hatred was madly over the top and letting out long term criminals early in recent times who have committed rapes and aggravated assaults battering etc.
Guy I know been burgled recently. Two weeks later, police not attended. They just think the possibility for conviction minimal. Blimey
I know everyone says the worlds gone mad when they getting a bit older
But I reckon even the twentyssomethings will think all this is totally nuts
I despair!!!!
Fairly sure the online Safety Act was passed by the last government.
if he's looking to shut down a cycling forum then that makes me automatically question what is being posted on there, i think it's just about making hosts and posters more accountable. if you want X to happen to motorists for cutting you up on your bike, or X to happen to a certain footballer for being sh*t, or a politician etc. then you're probably already on shaky ground
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Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 01:58 - Dec 19 with 1646 views
The problem is a lot further down the line I think. All of us on here are over the age of 40 ( mostly) so we use this forum like a social space, as we would a pub. That's how we relate this to. 16 years don't have any reference for that. Online stuff is just wierd these days. Kids are growing up in this flipping crazy void. Snapchat, Only fans, Tic Tok .. There's an evil presence online. That's where government should be starting, not cycling or football forums. There should be an age restriction to go online, and certain sites/apps should be banned. I've got 3 good kids, but some of the biggest issues I've had to sort out is online. Sexting, online bullying, etc.
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Occasional providers of half decent House music.
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Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 08:32 - Dec 19 with 1369 views
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals’’
These are sinister times.
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Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 09:22 - Dec 19 with 1254 views
Man, f**k all that. I just want to know that LFW is going to be safe. This might all be much ado about f**k all I don't know. I don't need this thread to turn into ratemymp.biz or anything.
Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.
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Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 09:55 - Dec 19 with 1150 views
Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 08:32 - Dec 19 by stevec
CS Lewis..
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals’’
These are sinister times.
I reread the chronicles of Narnia with my kids recently. Didn’t realise first time around what a bigot he was. He’s no democrat. For him, the nobility are noble and should rule because of genetic superiority and workers are feckless and need instruction, and the swarthier among us are deceitful and cruel.
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Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 10:28 - Dec 19 with 1063 views
The problem with the 'online safety act' is interpretation. Who decides what is offensive or abusive? It is wide open to manipulation by whoever regulates it to control and stifle open dialogue or dissent. As far as I'm concerned it's just another step down the slippery slope to totalitarianism.
Years ago a mate of mine said that the internet will probably go one of two ways: to an open and free internet that benefits everyone through open-sourcing technology, the sharing of ideas and so on, or towards totalitarianism. Governments, big tech and the legacy media corporations hate a free internet because they can't control it, manipulate it or profit from it. Despite its purported good intentions, the 'online safety act' furthers the latter scenario.
Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 10:28 - Dec 19 by hubble
The problem with the 'online safety act' is interpretation. Who decides what is offensive or abusive? It is wide open to manipulation by whoever regulates it to control and stifle open dialogue or dissent. As far as I'm concerned it's just another step down the slippery slope to totalitarianism.
Years ago a mate of mine said that the internet will probably go one of two ways: to an open and free internet that benefits everyone through open-sourcing technology, the sharing of ideas and so on, or towards totalitarianism. Governments, big tech and the legacy media corporations hate a free internet because they can't control it, manipulate it or profit from it. Despite its purported good intentions, the 'online safety act' furthers the latter scenario.
There was talk this week about JSO activists who are appealing their prison sentences.
They were imprisoned for just suggesting lying in roads on a Teams meeting that a Sun journalist infiltrated.
I think the horse has bolted.
I'm not having a go at you personally, because we all have our tribes, but we also need to look at totalitarianism against those we don't agree with too otherwise we are all in the shite.
I notice on that Saracens Head thread that people are saying that the Muslim guy 'shouldn't be allowed to sue'.
Well, he's odious and very much in wrong but being allowed to have your day in court is a form of freedom too.
Not a dig at anyone personally, just an observation.
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Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 13:39 - Dec 19 with 900 views
Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 11:03 - Dec 19 by GaryHaddock
There was talk this week about JSO activists who are appealing their prison sentences.
They were imprisoned for just suggesting lying in roads on a Teams meeting that a Sun journalist infiltrated.
I think the horse has bolted.
I'm not having a go at you personally, because we all have our tribes, but we also need to look at totalitarianism against those we don't agree with too otherwise we are all in the shite.
I notice on that Saracens Head thread that people are saying that the Muslim guy 'shouldn't be allowed to sue'.
Well, he's odious and very much in wrong but being allowed to have your day in court is a form of freedom too.
Not a dig at anyone personally, just an observation.
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As old Georgie boy had it:
'War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.'
Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 08:32 - Dec 19 by stevec
CS Lewis..
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals’’
These are sinister times.
It's hard to disagree with the thoughts expressed in that quote but surprising that they came from devout Anglican and self-described "Christian Apologist" C.S.Lewis.
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Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 14:31 - Dec 19 with 775 views
Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 08:32 - Dec 19 by stevec
CS Lewis..
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals’’
These are sinister times.
"These are sinister times"... that'll be the robber barons. If the last 30 years have taught us anything that thing would be, there will never be enough money to help the poor because there is never enough money to satisfy the rich. I saw a comment on Forbes about Musk; if he was to give away $10m a day his money wouldn't run out for over 45 years. It was also mentioned that a few years ago he asked the WHO for a detailed plan to end world poverty, the plan was created, costed and given to Musk who totally ignored it. It was $65bn. Considering his current wealth is due to exceed $1Tn in the next 6-10 years this would be like you giving £100 to end world poverty.
The grass is always greener.
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Dull thread alert! LFW and the online safety act on 18:40 - Dec 19 with 609 views
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