| MC has got to go 21:59 - Nov 5 with 51173 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Sorry, but that has done it for me.
You don't put a right footed player, you don't trust, at left back, yet leave your left footed defender at right back.
Fcking stupid.
A shapeless, gutless performance. Players walking, not challenging, arguing with each other. No shape, no desire.
Something has to happen and fast as we have relegation written all over us.
***having had a good night's sleep, I don't want MC sacked, I just can't sit through this anymore. I actually hate this club at the moment.*** [Post edited 6 Nov 6:38]
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| MC has got to go on 17:53 - Nov 9 with 3803 views | baz_qpr |
| MC has got to go on 17:49 - Nov 9 by Rangersw12 |
No manager would change that team around
Recruitment has killed us |
And not just this season.. 4 years in the making since the Warburton splurge and the failure to sell our best players at a premium price 6-7m to buy half a squad less than Leeds spend on a single reserve player |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 18:01 - Nov 9 with 3674 views | joolsyp |
| MC has got to go on 17:49 - Nov 9 by Rangersw12 |
No manager would change that team around
Recruitment has killed us |
Exactly this. With three or four exceptions this team is so far off Championship quality it’s unbelievable. I watched Brentford vs Bournemouth earlier. Their players are absolutely light years ahead of ours. Let that sink in for a moment - Brentford and Bournemouth. Pep couldn’t keep this lot up. |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 18:13 - Nov 9 with 3533 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| MC has got to go on 21:16 - Nov 7 by 1JD |
And yet the very stick that you try to beat with, repeatedly, in your typically antagonistic fashion, “oh you are such a pretend ITK”… has become somewhat ironic.
Because it’s completely lost on you that the information shared on here by myself and others regarding Nourry, all of which was saying the same stuff (as if it were actually… you know… true) is in fact, catching up to reality.
The chickens are very much coming home to roost.
Funny, that, isn’t it? |
Thanks for the pompous response: I would expect no less from you.
How do you claim to know so much about how QPR is run, especially exactly who is involved in making important decisions on player recruitment?
Do you know Nourry personally and had business dealings with him?
If not who is your source?
If you can’t/won’t answer this then it would suggest that ‘the information shared on here by myself’ are just your personal opinion and not the facts you smugly claim them to be. |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 18:21 - Nov 9 with 3432 views | enfieldargh |
| MC has got to go on 17:24 - Nov 9 by loftboy |
Hopefully Marti won’t be stubborn and realise the way we are currently playing means we are heading to league 1, abandon the ticker tacker crap and be more adventurous. |
Sadly these players cant do the ticky taka stuff and I'm not sure many of them are actually able to play agressive passing football.
We dont possess a goal poacher, or a playmaker.
The midfield is invisible for whatever style of football we attempt to play.
My gut tells me provided we get a few players back fit we might be able to get out of this provided we can score.
QPR have registered 1 goal in 4 lots of 90+ minutes and that wasnt scored by us.
This is so sad |  |
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| MC has got to go on 18:41 - Nov 9 with 3235 views | 1JD |
| MC has got to go on 18:13 - Nov 9 by Ned_Kennedys |
Thanks for the pompous response: I would expect no less from you.
How do you claim to know so much about how QPR is run, especially exactly who is involved in making important decisions on player recruitment?
Do you know Nourry personally and had business dealings with him?
If not who is your source?
If you can’t/won’t answer this then it would suggest that ‘the information shared on here by myself’ are just your personal opinion and not the facts you smugly claim them to be. |
You haven’t a clue what or how I know what I know. But you took your usual jumped up stance and threw your full weight behind it. (Yes, I’ve seen your multiple spats with others over the years, despite this being my first, and last, interaction with you - now placed on ignore, always a first as they say)
And no, I will not reveal just because demanded it. I’ve but never once claimed I was ITK, until now. I’ve been posting on and off (mostly off) for years. Everything I insinuated came true, and was backed by others. But you took umbrage. Because that’s what you do. But you were wrong. Yes wrong, but you’ll never own that.
You’d be better taking your misplaced anger and addressing it towards the twitterati crew who really do make sh1t up. Or perhaps, tone it down a little, and just have a decent human conversation. | | | |
| MC has got to go on 20:02 - Nov 9 with 2862 views | Loft1979 |
| MC has got to go on 13:11 - Nov 7 by mart_Goblin |
I completely agree .
You shouldn’t think we are all thick as mince and don’t understand what relegation means .
There is a difference however. Marti has already done this and got us going when all hope was lost.
So the majority of fans know he can do this .
It’s the players he’s been given that we all doubt .
My point was that we keep the one promising thing we have stumbled upon in recent times and put our trust in him. And I have been very critical of him this week myself.
It’s interesting that the few calling for MC to be sacked , when the question is “who replaces him?”, there has been silence . Not 1 name Ives seen anyway .
So give us a name that you think will come in and turn Madsen into a combative physical self imposing midfielder or 10 as he should be ? |
I echo your perspective. Looking at the last few games .. are All our opponents, their bench players would walk into this team. Joe Piroe, Simms, Latte .. it is outrageous.
I did think Morrison could have gotten a call with Sam going into midfield at the half. But Anderson, Madsen, Santos could be excised and make the team better
I still think Marti is setting us up and after he gets HIS chance to get players In Jan, we will see what we can do. |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 20:14 - Nov 9 with 2745 views | mart_Goblin |
| MC has got to go on 20:02 - Nov 9 by Loft1979 |
I echo your perspective. Looking at the last few games .. are All our opponents, their bench players would walk into this team. Joe Piroe, Simms, Latte .. it is outrageous.
I did think Morrison could have gotten a call with Sam going into midfield at the half. But Anderson, Madsen, Santos could be excised and make the team better
I still think Marti is setting us up and after he gets HIS chance to get players In Jan, we will see what we can do. |
Yes I agree.
I do fear that January will be much too late |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 20:18 - Nov 9 with 2708 views | ted_hendrix |
| MC has got to go on 20:02 - Nov 9 by Loft1979 |
I echo your perspective. Looking at the last few games .. are All our opponents, their bench players would walk into this team. Joe Piroe, Simms, Latte .. it is outrageous.
I did think Morrison could have gotten a call with Sam going into midfield at the half. But Anderson, Madsen, Santos could be excised and make the team better
I still think Marti is setting us up and after he gets HIS chance to get players In Jan, we will see what we can do. |
**I still think Marti is setting us up and after he gets HIS chance to get players In Jan, we will see what we can do.**
I thought the players that were signed In the Summer just gone were his players or sanctioned by him???
Bit of Déjà vu here, I thought this was debated after the Middlesbrough debacle.
I just can't accept/believe that someone at the club Is signing players without input etcetera from the Manager? |  |
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| MC has got to go on 20:39 - Nov 9 with 2595 views | JamesB1979 |
| MC has got to go on 20:18 - Nov 9 by ted_hendrix |
**I still think Marti is setting us up and after he gets HIS chance to get players In Jan, we will see what we can do.**
I thought the players that were signed In the Summer just gone were his players or sanctioned by him???
Bit of Déjà vu here, I thought this was debated after the Middlesbrough debacle.
I just can't accept/believe that someone at the club Is signing players without input etcetera from the Manager? |
100%. Didn’t Madsen basically sign and start his first game? If Marti had no knowledge or input, surely he’d have had a wanted training sessions to take a look at him. | | | |
| MC has got to go on 20:57 - Nov 9 with 2482 views | flynnbo |
He’s not very good. How many games have we looked good in the time he has been here. Preston away and Leeds at home afaik. [Post edited 9 Nov 20:59]
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| MC has got to go on 21:02 - Nov 9 with 2435 views | ParkRoyalR |
| MC has got to go on 13:11 - Nov 7 by mart_Goblin |
I completely agree .
You shouldn’t think we are all thick as mince and don’t understand what relegation means .
There is a difference however. Marti has already done this and got us going when all hope was lost.
So the majority of fans know he can do this .
It’s the players he’s been given that we all doubt .
My point was that we keep the one promising thing we have stumbled upon in recent times and put our trust in him. And I have been very critical of him this week myself.
It’s interesting that the few calling for MC to be sacked , when the question is “who replaces him?”, there has been silence . Not 1 name Ives seen anyway .
So give us a name that you think will come in and turn Madsen into a combative physical self imposing midfielder or 10 as he should be ? |
I'm not calling for Cifuentes to be sacked, altho I was one of the few who was sceptical from the off,
I would be delighted if our Owners swallowed their pride and invited back Mark Warburton on Monday morning ideally as our DoF for 3 reasons:
1. Warburton knows players of the ilk of Dom Ball who are likely free agents who can improve our Starting XI immediately.
2. Warburton has an attacking style of play, Cifuentes to date, hasn't managed to get more than 1 player in the Box on more than a few occasions.
3. Warburton could manage our well meaning but error prone owners. | | | |
| MC has got to go on 21:38 - Nov 9 with 2250 views | corse |
Warburton? The same Warburton who was funded to make a push for play offs with a team that desperately shouted for a decent forward went on and signed Hendricks and the other tosser whose name I have luckily forgotten. That went well. As it did went for him at Brentford before where he made the same mistake. Yeah by all means bring warbs back and we ll see how that works. [Post edited 9 Nov 21:39]
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| MC has got to go on 21:45 - Nov 9 with 2187 views | ParkRoyalR |
| MC has got to go on 21:38 - Nov 9 by corse |
Warburton? The same Warburton who was funded to make a push for play offs with a team that desperately shouted for a decent forward went on and signed Hendricks and the other tosser whose name I have luckily forgotten. That went well. As it did went for him at Brentford before where he made the same mistake. Yeah by all means bring warbs back and we ll see how that works. [Post edited 9 Nov 21:39]
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Yep, the one hung out to dry by a club legend, but Jeff Hendricks heh, let's scapegoat Jeff.
Warburton made one error of judgement, Andre Gray, equalled by the fans error of judgement in listening to Austins platitudes. | | | |
| MC has got to go on 21:53 - Nov 9 with 2109 views | paulparker |
| MC has got to go on 21:02 - Nov 9 by ParkRoyalR |
I'm not calling for Cifuentes to be sacked, altho I was one of the few who was sceptical from the off,
I would be delighted if our Owners swallowed their pride and invited back Mark Warburton on Monday morning ideally as our DoF for 3 reasons:
1. Warburton knows players of the ilk of Dom Ball who are likely free agents who can improve our Starting XI immediately.
2. Warburton has an attacking style of play, Cifuentes to date, hasn't managed to get more than 1 player in the Box on more than a few occasions.
3. Warburton could manage our well meaning but error prone owners. |
The rot started under him , we was in relegation form from that January it started with that display at Peterborough in the cup
His signings were costly and awful and he had lost the plot
Andre Gray terrible pro
Hendrick shot to pieces
Sanderson crap
I wouldn’t want him anywhere near our club as a DOF
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That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| MC has got to go on 21:55 - Nov 9 with 2072 views | paulparker |
| MC has got to go on 21:45 - Nov 9 by ParkRoyalR |
Yep, the one hung out to dry by a club legend, but Jeff Hendricks heh, let's scapegoat Jeff.
Warburton made one error of judgement, Andre Gray, equalled by the fans error of judgement in listening to Austins platitudes. |
The same Charlie Austin who bailed out Warburton that January by leading from example and not only keeping us up but helping get to a mid table finish | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| MC has got to go on 21:59 - Nov 9 with 2034 views | PunteR |
| MC has got to go on 17:49 - Nov 9 by Rangersw12 |
No manager would change that team around
Recruitment has killed us |
The owners have killed us. |  |
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| MC has got to go on 22:14 - Nov 9 with 1935 views | Quite_Possibly_Ropey |
| MC has got to go on 10:25 - Nov 7 by Padulas_Shampoo |
If you have a leaky roof that lets water in and damages the carpet, what do you fix? The carpet or the roof?
I am absolutely flabbergasted that anyone could look at what is - I would say - the biggest clusterfvck of all QPR historical clusterfvcks that is this season / squad and surmise that the manager is the thing that needs to change in order to fix it. A manager who finally got a tune out of a group of players that hadn't performed for their previous three managers last season.
There really isn't a man alive that could take the current squad with all its injuries and issues and get us playing well enough to survive relegation. And if that man does exist I really don't think he'll pitch up cap in hand on South Africa Road. a fvcking 442 instead of a 433 won't fix this mess. we could play an 888 and get beat 4-0.
This group of owners have allowed themselves to be financially extorted by an embarrassing amount of managers, agents, players, coaches, scouts, performance analysts, data analysts, the whole fvcking lot. They have allowed it again and again, over and over. They trusted Mark Hughes, Harry Redknapp and Kia Joorabchian. They bought what Michael Beale was selling. And now, here we all are, swallowing the impact of them being chatted up by a 26 year old charlatan to the tune of handing him the keys to the fvcking bank account, the fvcking recruitment and the fvcking dressing room.
Look... It's done now. They've fvcked it. It's over. And they've fvcked it so badly that not only is the squad in complete and total disarray indefinitely but you have some pretty serious contempt between the club and the fans by way of drying up all communication lines. This is how I would run Chelsea if afforded the opportunity. The running of this club since the end of last year has been so bad I believe we could genuinely start to wonder whether there's a serious attempt being made to tear it down from within.
These people cannot make the right decision. They're incapable. At least from a football club perspective. It's been a decade. A fvcking decade of trusting crooks and being sold dreams by people that have no ability to supply them. A fvcking decade handing over money again and again and again to people that have actively designed systems by which to get it. Over and over and fvcking over. And at time we've been expected to be grateful and sympathetic that they've been prepared to do it.
A fvcking decade of a losing culture with absolutely no relent. League One won't fix us. It'll be the same bollocks by a different degree.
These people have to step aside, get out of their own way and out of our way. They may be generous but what's the point in generosity when it all goes into black fvcking markets?
Marti may not be the most magnificent shagpile but I'm telling you now he's one of the more positive things that we've managed to luck ourselves into within this fvcking abominable decade. Treat the cancer at the top of this fvcking club because until you do everthing within it will erode and debase and suffer and bleed and it won't fvcking stop. |
I've literally logged in purely to thank Padulas_Shampoo for somehow capturing in words the disappointment, sadness and disdain that I feel for my beloved rangers at the moment. I haven't been able to put it together but could never do it the justice that has been done in your response sir.
All those calling for Marti's head is not a problem at all, but they must answer a few questions. Who else but Marti then? Why further destabilise a club already on life support with no answer to question 1?
We simply cannot continue the same churn of managers year in, year out and continue to complain that we play like a team with no identity or plan.
Where has our club gone? | | | |
| MC has got to go on 22:19 - Nov 9 with 1868 views | stainrods_elbow |
| MC has got to go on 21:45 - Nov 9 by ParkRoyalR |
Yep, the one hung out to dry by a club legend, but Jeff Hendricks heh, let's scapegoat Jeff.
Warburton made one error of judgement, Andre Gray, equalled by the fans error of judgement in listening to Austins platitudes. |
Ludicrous! Warburton presided over a months-long catastrophic downturn of form he was clearly powerless to address that would have got us relegated in many another season. He can't manage anyone consistently, as his management record demonstrates. Wake up! |  |
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| MC has got to go on 22:24 - Nov 9 with 1823 views | Hunterhoop |
There is no point in sacking Cifuentes.
Whoever comes in will have to play a “game model” and follow instruction on who they can and can’t select from, determined by a 27yr old charlatan with no football experience.
No credible, self respecting manager will come to work at QPR under this fraud.
Which means sacking Cifuentes will result in a washed up fella looking for a payday OR a jumped up, arrogant tosser from League 2 who wants to be managing a couple of leagues higher and will accept being a “yes” man.
The manager is not the issue. |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 22:24 - Nov 9 with 1821 views | PunteR |
| MC has got to go on 21:53 - Nov 9 by paulparker |
The rot started under him , we was in relegation form from that January it started with that display at Peterborough in the cup
His signings were costly and awful and he had lost the plot
Andre Gray terrible pro
Hendrick shot to pieces
Sanderson crap
I wouldn’t want him anywhere near our club as a DOF
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No way did the rot start with Warburton mate.
He was picking up the pieces from Maclaren, Holloway, JFH. All on Ferdinand's watch.
The fallout between him and the club came about because he basically dug out Ferdinand and Ramsey. Plus he was on a 3 year contract and that third year looked like we had a chance of promotion and the new contract negotiations failed. But yeh that 2nd half of the season went tits up, but for me , he was someone we should have kept on for a bit longer. Weird way for it to end. That last day of the season and everyone singing his name. Didnt get sacked, just let his 3 year contract finish. And then in came Beale.
Stupid owners.
I would have him over Nourry and Ferdinand all day long.
He's intelligent enough to stay away from football. | |
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| MC has got to go on 22:54 - Nov 9 with 1675 views | davman |
| MC has got to go on 20:02 - Nov 9 by Loft1979 |
I echo your perspective. Looking at the last few games .. are All our opponents, their bench players would walk into this team. Joe Piroe, Simms, Latte .. it is outrageous.
I did think Morrison could have gotten a call with Sam going into midfield at the half. But Anderson, Madsen, Santos could be excised and make the team better
I still think Marti is setting us up and after he gets HIS chance to get players In Jan, we will see what we can do. |
Coming out if this game, I heard all sorts of shite about who he could have played and who he should have played. Ffs people, that was the ONLY team he could have put out.
This squad is utter dogshite under the surface. Unfit for purpose to compete at Champ level. No fit LB, one striker ill equipped to cope at this level as a lone striker, one fit CB who could play in a back 4, no decent RBs except a CB used last season to plug a gap. No or very little physical presence to compete.
To be fair they tried their best today, but were just worse in every single department to a multi million pound team. I don't doubt that they try; they are just not very good OR they are simply not suited to our club.
Whoever it is who is liable for ending up with this squad can f off even if this is simply the reality of us finding our level, which is one division below where we are.
As with most games over the last 3 or so seasons, the hardest thing is that Leeds are poor and still barely needed to get to second to outclassed us.
We really are shite. |  |
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| MC has got to go on 22:54 - Nov 9 with 1671 views | BklynRanger |
Hold on I've had a drink. Didn't we just face the same opposition that we had a once in a decade feeling against only a few months ago, with the same manager, a couple of the same players, others now injured, some sold with little objection?
And we haven't, what's it called, REPLACED any of those gimps with equal or better replacements, and we're now getting bummed in the gob in all of those positions?
But we still have that same, what we thought 6 months ago to be, a good manager?
Yet we've got 10 pages, after our years and years of surely for fcuk sake self acknowledged incompetence, and concluded it must be this manager? [Post edited 9 Nov 22:55]
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| MC has got to go on 23:01 - Nov 9 with 1634 views | sevenhoop |
| MC has got to go on 22:54 - Nov 9 by BklynRanger |
Hold on I've had a drink. Didn't we just face the same opposition that we had a once in a decade feeling against only a few months ago, with the same manager, a couple of the same players, others now injured, some sold with little objection?
And we haven't, what's it called, REPLACED any of those gimps with equal or better replacements, and we're now getting bummed in the gob in all of those positions?
But we still have that same, what we thought 6 months ago to be, a good manager?
Yet we've got 10 pages, after our years and years of surely for fcuk sake self acknowledged incompetence, and concluded it must be this manager? [Post edited 9 Nov 22:55]
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I make you right. No one else could polish this turd and turn into anything other than a turd. There are some selections that I can’t understand but he worked a minor miracle last season and we just have to hope that he does the same, though we do look unsaveable this time around. Someone earlier said this team’s level is league 1. I’m not even confident about that |  | | |
| MC has got to go on 23:16 - Nov 9 with 1518 views | ParkRoyalR |
| MC has got to go on 21:53 - Nov 9 by paulparker |
The rot started under him , we was in relegation form from that January it started with that display at Peterborough in the cup
His signings were costly and awful and he had lost the plot
Andre Gray terrible pro
Hendrick shot to pieces
Sanderson crap
I wouldn’t want him anywhere near our club as a DOF
Also the defending and attacking at set pieces was atrocious |
Attacking set pieces was atrocious, Id be happy just to see a coherent attacking style which a previous poster noted we've seem away at Preston and home against Leeds,
Austin shot to pieces and a terrible pro (sic),
You wouldn't want Warburton to replace Nourry, really?
Sure you're not on the board with such insight? | | | |
| MC has got to go on 23:35 - Nov 9 with 1432 views | SK_hoops |
Got talking to a West Ham fan today. Told him what was going wrong and he was absolutely baffled when I told him we let a 26 yr old be CEO and DOF. It's actually embarrassing. Everyone sees that except the owners. | | | |
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