| Eze not in the England squad 19:47 - Oct 3 with 12354 views | loftboy |
Thought he’s had a decent start to the season. |  |
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| Eze not in the England squad on 10:04 - Oct 7 with 3228 views | terryb |
Back to Eze not being in the England squad. I will always be a fan of him, but he was awful on Saturday against Liverpool.
Every bit as bad as our "creative" players were at Derby! |  | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 10:37 - Oct 7 with 3155 views | numptydumpty |
| Eze not in the England squad on 10:04 - Oct 7 by terryb |
Back to Eze not being in the England squad. I will always be a fan of him, but he was awful on Saturday against Liverpool.
Every bit as bad as our "creative" players were at Derby! |
Eze is 26
Bellingham, Foden, Palmer, Gordon are all younger than him and ahead of him permanently in queue for England places.
Younger players will continue to come through.
Last season he was very decent and was able to link up with Olise but this year Palace are weakened.
He needs a move but if his release clause is £68 million no one is paying that.
I would say because of his age and his inability to break through on the international stage would say his value is £40 to £50 million.
We can't rely on the 20% transfer values to us as I fear, he could be at Palace some time and valuations will be much lower.
As for England, it's think that post has well and truly past. I don't think he will get the opportunities anymore. |  |
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| Eze not in the England squad on 11:28 - Oct 7 with 3105 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Eze not in the England squad on 10:04 - Oct 7 by terryb |
Back to Eze not being in the England squad. I will always be a fan of him, but he was awful on Saturday against Liverpool.
Every bit as bad as our "creative" players were at Derby! |
Don't tell we've now perfected the art of QPRing blokes even after they've left us? |  |
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| Eze not in the England squad on 11:47 - Oct 7 with 3072 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Eze not in the England squad on 10:04 - Oct 7 by terryb |
Back to Eze not being in the England squad. I will always be a fan of him, but he was awful on Saturday against Liverpool.
Every bit as bad as our "creative" players were at Derby! |
He’s got a lot of competition in his positions now for England: he does need to move to a bigger club as I think he will play better when linking with better players. At the moment he is carrying Palace and trying to do too much on his own. |  | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 11:52 - Oct 7 with 3057 views | OldPedro |
| Eze not in the England squad on 11:47 - Oct 7 by Ned_Kennedys |
He’s got a lot of competition in his positions now for England: he does need to move to a bigger club as I think he will play better when linking with better players. At the moment he is carrying Palace and trying to do too much on his own. |
I wonder if not being picked in the England squad will encourage him to move to a bigger club (if given the chance) - agree with Ned that playing with better players will help him rather than trying to carry Palace. |  |
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| Eze not in the England squad on 15:31 - Oct 7 with 2951 views | Toast_R |
Doesn't help that Crystal Palace have started this season badly and look like they're in for a relegation scrap. |  | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 21:43 - Oct 10 with 2678 views | connell10 |
Sooooo??? He couldn't have done as bad as some of the so called world class players people on here keep spouting on about. |  |
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| Eze not in the England squad on 22:02 - Oct 10 with 2600 views | danehoop |
| Eze not in the England squad on 21:43 - Oct 10 by connell10 |
Sooooo??? He couldn't have done as bad as some of the so called world class players people on here keep spouting on about. |
Totally agree. Trouble is he wasnt a permanent fixture for Southgate and hasnt played for Carsley as a youth player. Got one game with Carsley to show what he could do and for whatever reason that didnt work in that one game.
What he brings though is completely different from the options that Carsley had today and creates different problems for defenders. A great option from the bench to change things. Fear he wont get another chance with Carsley in charge, but that said I dont see Carsley as being the long term option for England either. Like the idea of the continuity candidate who will progress from U21 to senior manager as he in theory knows most of the players well who he will be using. But that assumes Carsley is sufficiently capable at the next level. Tonight the Greek manager was tactically years ahead and made him look very average. |  |
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| Eze not in the England squad on 22:22 - Oct 10 with 2517 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Eze not in the England squad on 22:02 - Oct 10 by danehoop |
Totally agree. Trouble is he wasnt a permanent fixture for Southgate and hasnt played for Carsley as a youth player. Got one game with Carsley to show what he could do and for whatever reason that didnt work in that one game.
What he brings though is completely different from the options that Carsley had today and creates different problems for defenders. A great option from the bench to change things. Fear he wont get another chance with Carsley in charge, but that said I dont see Carsley as being the long term option for England either. Like the idea of the continuity candidate who will progress from U21 to senior manager as he in theory knows most of the players well who he will be using. But that assumes Carsley is sufficiently capable at the next level. Tonight the Greek manager was tactically years ahead and made him look very average. |
Eze is a far more gifted and exciting player than Grealish, Gordon or even the deified Foden imo. If he's not given chances for the English team, that says more about its inept management than the player, but of course England has always had a problem with 'flair' players - think Stan, Hoddle, Le Tiss etc. etc. |  |
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| Eze not in the England squad on 23:27 - Oct 10 with 2387 views | PBLOCK |
I love Eze but I also appreciate there is competition in his role
If anyone can explain what Curtis Jones is doing in the squad that would be helpful | | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 07:09 - Oct 11 with 2303 views | QPROslo |
| Eze not in the England squad on 23:27 - Oct 10 by PBLOCK |
I love Eze but I also appreciate there is competition in his role
If anyone can explain what Curtis Jones is doing in the squad that would be helpful |
I've never seen Foden have a good game for England. Eze should of been the regular in his position in the Euro finals. | | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 07:28 - Oct 11 with 2296 views | connell10 |
| Eze not in the England squad on 07:09 - Oct 11 by QPROslo |
I've never seen Foden have a good game for England. Eze should of been the regular in his position in the Euro finals. |
As someone who nevers watches Premier league football I've never seen him have a good game ...period! | |
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| Eze not in the England squad on 08:47 - Oct 11 with 2261 views | QPROslo |
| Eze not in the England squad on 07:28 - Oct 11 by connell10 |
As someone who nevers watches Premier league football I've never seen him have a good game ...period! |
Like you I watch very little PL football, so not surprisingly I've not seen Foden have a good game there either, but I guess from all the gush he's not always gash there too. | | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 11:00 - Oct 11 with 2179 views | PBLOCK |
I love Eze but I also appreciate there is competition in his role
If anyone can explain what Curtis Jones is doing in the squad that would be helpful | | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 12:29 - Oct 11 with 2125 views | BristolR |
| Eze not in the England squad on 22:22 - Oct 10 by stainrods_elbow |
Eze is a far more gifted and exciting player than Grealish, Gordon or even the deified Foden imo. If he's not given chances for the English team, that says more about its inept management than the player, but of course England has always had a problem with 'flair' players - think Stan, Hoddle, Le Tiss etc. etc. |
Agree with every word of this.
Additionally as I may have said on another post, as he doesn’t play for one of the (pass the sickbag) “BIG SIX” he gets little or no coverage, almost as if he doesn’t exist.
F@ck modern football and it’s highly skewed (have you finished with that bag?) “content”…aside from this excellent site of course. [Post edited 11 Oct 12:32]
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| Eze not in the England squad on 15:07 - Oct 11 with 2056 views | Match82 |
| Eze not in the England squad on 11:38 - Oct 4 by gazza1 |
Southgate is the main reason that we have not won a 'big' tournament, his team selections & tactics have been bad and made many schoolboy errors. His record only looks good because of the quality of the opponents we have played and the decent squad that we have.....we should have done better, hence why he has gone (thankfully).
Carsley, who knows yet and is an unknown, but he hasn't played much yet, and as you say, if we don't attack against them teams then we are in right trouble. |
Biggest reason we haven't won an international tournament is that there are lots of other good teams, we don't have a right to win anything.
Many accusations can be leveled at Southgate and fairly so. But not winning a big tournament feels like a weird one seeing as we got to a major tournament final and lost on penalties. Two of those kicks go in and he'd be immune from criticism? I dont buy it. |  | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 17:58 - Oct 11 with 1928 views | terryb |
I don't understand how people that say that they never watch Premier league games can say that player A, player B etc is not as good as player C.
Or that player D is useless! | | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 20:40 - Oct 11 with 1850 views | Benny_the_Ball |
Look I love Eze as much as the next QPR supporter but currently he isn't as good as Bellingham, Foden, or Palmer. It's unfortunate but there's some serious competition in his position. |  | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 00:26 - Oct 13 with 1554 views | CLAREMAN1995 |
| Eze not in the England squad on 20:40 - Oct 11 by Benny_the_Ball |
Look I love Eze as much as the next QPR supporter but currently he isn't as good as Bellingham, Foden, or Palmer. It's unfortunate but there's some serious competition in his position. |
Good post here its just the times we are in and England have some serious talent right now.
Cannot understand the harsh comments about Foden he is excellent for City and one of the best in Europe at his position but has never really matched it with England yet.
Palmer is also a superstar in the making and taking his chance with both hands after moving from City.Give the kid credit he left the golden goose to make his own way with Chelsea and is killing it.
They both seem a bit more sharper,quicker,more lethal in the box that Eze right now but the talent they have at their clubs contribute greatly to that IMO.
I thought England would hammer Greece with that line up but thats football I guess |  | | |
| Eze not in the England squad (n/t) on 08:57 - Oct 13 with 1354 views | gazza1 |
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| Eze not in the England squad on 09:28 - Oct 13 with 1288 views | gazza1 |
| Eze not in the England squad on 15:07 - Oct 11 by Match82 |
Biggest reason we haven't won an international tournament is that there are lots of other good teams, we don't have a right to win anything.
Many accusations can be leveled at Southgate and fairly so. But not winning a big tournament feels like a weird one seeing as we got to a major tournament final and lost on penalties. Two of those kicks go in and he'd be immune from criticism? I dont buy it. |
Well, your expectations are obviously lower than mine, a lot lower - I expect much better from our squad.
The Italy loss was poor, we should have cleaned them up. The Croatia game was another poor game tactically led by GS. The Spain game (much harder than the previous two mentioned) only came alive after we were loosing, why?? To leave Grealish from the squad, not take a fit LB to the tournament & more is criminal and major errors by GS. He walked apparently but I would suggest that his time was over.
Lets see if he gets a top job - if he was any good then Premier clubs would be 'all over him'. Not seen that yet. | | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 09:41 - Oct 13 with 1257 views | PlanetHonneywood |
| Eze not in the England squad on 09:28 - Oct 13 by gazza1 |
Well, your expectations are obviously lower than mine, a lot lower - I expect much better from our squad.
The Italy loss was poor, we should have cleaned them up. The Croatia game was another poor game tactically led by GS. The Spain game (much harder than the previous two mentioned) only came alive after we were loosing, why?? To leave Grealish from the squad, not take a fit LB to the tournament & more is criminal and major errors by GS. He walked apparently but I would suggest that his time was over.
Lets see if he gets a top job - if he was any good then Premier clubs would be 'all over him'. Not seen that yet. |
Lot of nails on heads there. However, before we bang the last one in GS' coffin, I'll give him credit for at least getting us there, and being a class act as the manager of the national side.
While we're all human and thus, infallible, the issues you highlight you just don't think a top-top manager would have been felled by.
While I agree we've no divine right to win a tournament because we're England, the Italy game was GS in a nutshell: good enough to get us there, not enough to go beyond, He earned the right to lead us to Qatar, but time should have been called after that, and by him, too.
I'd still thank him over a beer though! | |
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| Eze not in the England squad on 09:44 - Oct 13 with 1246 views | LongRanger |
I love Eze, but in International football very very few players get the free role he needs to be effective and gets at Palace. Top of my head…Maradona, Messi, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Baggio, then I’m struggling. Given the lack of time with the players they all have to fit into a tight system. I wish it was different, but I doubt Eze will ever fulfil his potential for England, under any manager. | | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 12:06 - Oct 13 with 1105 views | daveB |
| Eze not in the England squad on 09:41 - Oct 13 by PlanetHonneywood |
Lot of nails on heads there. However, before we bang the last one in GS' coffin, I'll give him credit for at least getting us there, and being a class act as the manager of the national side.
While we're all human and thus, infallible, the issues you highlight you just don't think a top-top manager would have been felled by.
While I agree we've no divine right to win a tournament because we're England, the Italy game was GS in a nutshell: good enough to get us there, not enough to go beyond, He earned the right to lead us to Qatar, but time should have been called after that, and by him, too.
I'd still thank him over a beer though! |
At what point do the players take a bit of responsibility in these big games, they are not robots playing the behest of the manager. If Kane and Sterling took their chances against Croatia we are 3 up at half time and we had several chances to kill the Italy game off but the manager gets blamed |  | | |
| Eze not in the England squad on 12:21 - Oct 13 with 1050 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Eze not in the England squad on 00:26 - Oct 13 by CLAREMAN1995 |
Good post here its just the times we are in and England have some serious talent right now.
Cannot understand the harsh comments about Foden he is excellent for City and one of the best in Europe at his position but has never really matched it with England yet.
Palmer is also a superstar in the making and taking his chance with both hands after moving from City.Give the kid credit he left the golden goose to make his own way with Chelsea and is killing it.
They both seem a bit more sharper,quicker,more lethal in the box that Eze right now but the talent they have at their clubs contribute greatly to that IMO.
I thought England would hammer Greece with that line up but thats football I guess |
Foden has been woeful for England for ages and his goal and assists stats show that.
He’s been shoehorned into the team this year at the expense of others and done nothing.
He needs to start showing his club form for England but based on his Euros performances he should not be in the team. | | | |
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