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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes 10:33 - Oct 1 with 43403 viewsBluce_Ree

Am I tripping or is the apathy so high that there's not even a match thread on game day?

Apologies if I'm spackman-ing this. But I can't see one.

It's a battle of midtable with Hull City on a DDLLWW run vs Ciffy's Supers (DDWDDL).

I'm not going to say must win. It's too early for that. But it might be must win in terms of me not exploding in rage at us dropping points in a winnable home game.

Marti's got this. 2-0. I've not looked at team news but let's just say Frey and Dembele.

Or not. Who gives a f**k?

Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore.

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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 21:58 - Oct 1 with 3428 viewsandrew1302

As Pep says it is what you do in the boxes that matters. Up front we have no delivery and in Celar a really weak optoption. At the back Santos and Paal having a lesson . Bottom 3 by the weekend and if this is all we have got League 1 next year. I just don't understand why we bought all these weak players. The championship is a lot about strength and commitment of which nearly all the new players have none. People talk about let them bed in. How long do people want? We are dreadful that is the truth.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 21:59 - Oct 1 with 3377 viewsDamo1962

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 21:52 - Oct 1 by QPunkR

Only 3 points off bottom spot. And I think there are a lot of fans who don't think that's relevant but we've been really poor all season, can't score and sure as sht can't defend.

Thank Christ Chair's back. We'll need him to perform his super heroics and drag the rest of the rabble with him yet again


Think it might be too much for even Chair. I feel exactly the way I did at this time last season unfortunately.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:00 - Oct 1 with 3361 viewsKiko

It's just awful at the moment.

Nothing up front and terrible at the back. I wonder if Hayden really was much more key than we all realised.

Need Colback, JCS and Chair back urgently and then pray they can stay fit. At the moment I think we're relegation bound playing like that.

Shout out to Saito who I thought had a good game and was unlucky
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:04 - Oct 1 with 3210 viewsManinBlack

Since the 4-0 against Leeds we have not won at home. We really are useless in our own cave and the last few managers have not been able to improve it these last few seasons.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:06 - Oct 1 with 3123 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:00 - Oct 1 by Kiko

It's just awful at the moment.

Nothing up front and terrible at the back. I wonder if Hayden really was much more key than we all realised.

Need Colback, JCS and Chair back urgently and then pray they can stay fit. At the moment I think we're relegation bound playing like that.

Shout out to Saito who I thought had a good game and was unlucky
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Yep, it's a sad indictment on the recruitment (Nardi aside) that we need those players back fast. Last season we were very lucky with injuries but with Ben pretty much gone will we be so lucky this?
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:07 - Oct 1 with 3111 viewsTHEBUSH

I don't think it's fair to pick on individual players, but our right back today, was useless.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:07 - Oct 1 with 3075 viewsBoston

Back in the day, we'd relieve a bit of pent up frustration by chasing Hull down the South Africa Rd. Nowadays it's head first into the anti-depressants.

Poll: Thank God The Seaons Over.

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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:09 - Oct 1 with 2979 viewsDamo1962

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:04 - Oct 1 by ManinBlack

Since the 4-0 against Leeds we have not won at home. We really are useless in our own cave and the last few managers have not been able to improve it these last few seasons.


And it can only end one way if you can't even pick up a few wins at home...relegation.We wont be winning many on the road this season to save us, with our defending as it is.The owners,manager and players should be ashamed of how easy it is for teams coming to LR. Make my piss boil for sure.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:11 - Oct 1 with 2948 viewsandrew1302

Signings are what make the difference and they have fir us. Once again we have made ourselves worse not better. Can someone ease tell me what Celar offers? And why does he play Anderson who is a walking liability. Nardi is good. Dumbele looked like he was going to be great but last 3 games he has been poor. Are there 3 worse teams than us? It is difficult to see. Whoever picks the players we sign should be sacked
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:14 - Oct 1 with 2817 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:07 - Oct 1 by THEBUSH

I don't think it's fair to pick on individual players, but our right back today, was useless.


Either revert Dunne to RB or give Ashby a go. Santos is not the answer.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:16 - Oct 1 with 2791 viewsLblock

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 21:52 - Oct 1 by QPunkR

Only 3 points off bottom spot. And I think there are a lot of fans who don't think that's relevant but we've been really poor all season, can't score and sure as sht can't defend.

Thank Christ Chair's back. We'll need him to perform his super heroics and drag the rest of the rabble with him yet again


Yeah you’ll get all the “calm downs” and “need to gel” etc etc

There are serious legitimate concerns

Celar has maybe 2 more games before his credit is burned and will be labelled a flop. He looks lost, unhappy, scared and, quite frankly, useless.
So we’ve decided, yet again, to go into the season with one striker and, even worse than last season, forwards with no pace.

Centre midfield lacks any bite (bar Field to a degree) and has zero pace or robustness.
Anderson is an absolute joke and really does need to be moved on in January. He’s totally shot and getting worse week on week

Dembele seems to be regressing into a shell. Do we actually know how or where to use him effectively??

The defence seem more concerned about knocking the ball to each other and forgetting about doing job number one and putting a bit about the opposition.
How many seasons do we have to endure people having the time and space to pick their spot from 22 yards? Get out and in peoples faces and close space down FFS!!!!
We feel like a really fragile squad back there

Keeper for me is the only successful signing so far but the shots on target conversion is becoming a concern

So in summary big questions and, heresy that it is, Marti’s approach to picking sides with Anderson and Madsen as starters need to be queried.
People think it’s Chair to the rescue but my God he looked rusty in his cameo. To be expected

So 10pm Wednesday we are looking like possibly 4th or 3rd bottom with about a fifth of the season gone.
I’ll panic when I’m told I’m allowed to but for now my mood is …… concerned of Ealing

Cherish and enjoy life.... this ain't no dress rehearsal

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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:19 - Oct 1 with 2739 viewsrbee

I don't know, you spend your day looking forward to the game and by 9:30 are thoroughly p1ssed off.

Our midfield looks good moving forward but without the ball are awful.

Our shooting isn't good enough.

Problems from last season appearing again, atrocious set pieces and poor final balls.

If Colback and JCS don't appear after the international break then we are really going to struggle.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:23 - Oct 1 with 2605 viewsJevlar

Whatever it’s trying to be right now, it just isn’t working. We look horribly disjointed. But there is still a lot of the season to go. Although, that was a pretty cold, miserable and, empty night at the back of F block.

Agree with other poster, hate to single a player out, but Santos had a torrid timw. Ashby needs a run at right back if Dunne is playing centre half.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:30 - Oct 1 with 2451 viewsBeckenhamhoop

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:14 - Oct 1 by Benny_the_Ball

Either revert Dunne to RB or give Ashby a go. Santos is not the answer.


Dunne’s complete lack of pace would have been even worse against Millar.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:35 - Oct 1 with 2344 viewssixnil

The right side was weak, why didn't Marti change it at half time?
Santos was backing off the attacker into the box, totally unforgivable...
We are far too lightweight for the Championship, zero aggression , apart from the first 5 mins of each half..
Shocking
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:35 - Oct 1 with 2340 viewsEalingHoop81

Come on everyone let’s get a bit of a grip. They scored an absolute worldy against the run of play and Anderson had a complete brain fade trying to play the ball in his own box rather than putting his foot through it. Other than that, we completely battered them in the first half.

The second half was frustrating and they played very well on the break. The real issue here is not the last 20 mins but rather our inability to put the ball in the net when we’re on top. We should have been 2 up in 5 mins, could have scored a couple in the first 10 after half time, but continuously we shoot high too high or straight at the keeper. There’s a real lack of composure in front of goal and it’s costing us.

It will come, the new players will improve with minutes in the division and we’ll be fine this season. But the expectations are too high. Last season we didn’t even look like scoring a goal from open play at this stage. Keep the faith
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:56 - Oct 1 with 2063 viewsSK_hoops

Andersen reminds me of latter period Johanson. A player who was once brilliant (even for us when he first signed, who has sadly gone past his sell by date.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 23:07 - Oct 1 with 1977 viewsrbee

Andersen only just turned 30 so shouldn't be 'shot.' Only a few months ago his defensive play was superb and he offered an attacking threat.

Tonight he was often box to box and found himself in space on a couple of occasions but the pass to him wayward. I am hoping that his form will return.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 23:27 - Oct 1 with 1858 viewsLoyalitat

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:14 - Oct 1 by Benny_the_Ball

Either revert Dunne to RB or give Ashby a go. Santos is not the answer.


This. The much derided Osman Kakay is a better player than Santos. Miller is a good player and cruelly exposed Santos' defensive frailties without having to overexert himself.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 23:42 - Oct 1 with 1795 viewsNed_Kennedys

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 23:27 - Oct 1 by Loyalitat

This. The much derided Osman Kakay is a better player than Santos. Miller is a good player and cruelly exposed Santos' defensive frailties without having to overexert himself.


Miller tore him to pieces but Santos got little help on the right from Dembele did he?
The whole of the back four were awful tonight apart from Cook.
Only player who did well tonight was Saito: quality work and put the other attackers to shame.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 00:05 - Oct 2 with 1723 viewsrbee

I thought Cook played well tonight.

I thought Santos has had a couple of good games for us but tonight, largely left alone to deal with Miller, he struggled but I would suggest that the majority of Championship right backs will struggle against Miller with the form he showed tonight. After going outside all night to finally cut inside and shoot was impressive.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 00:32 - Oct 2 with 1653 viewsmart_Goblin

At a bit of a loss as to where to start about this evening .

For the majority of the first half we played some of the best stuff I’ve seen in a while . Good movement from the front 5, moving the ball quicker, pressing well as a pack and pulling Hull all over the place .
However, in doing so , it left Field in the middle of the park on his own . That’s just suicidal .
Madsen or Andersen or both have use their brains and when one goes the other has to drop in, but no one did it . So we can look at the back 4 but they had no protection. Field is doing neither , not protecting the back 4 nor can he pass to a bloody Rangers player , but he has too wide an area to cover .

It left the players behind him exposed and boy did they look it.
I expect Ashby to start Saturday if there is still no JCS . Poor Santos got run ragged but he got very little help. Paal once again looks weak and easy target , Dunne slow and cumbersome and I really noticed Cook in the last 20 mins looking heavy slow and old.
In truth Hull could’ve got more in that last 20 mins ….and they look bang average .

Our pattern of play has to change!!
Rolled to Dunne or Cook, played to the full back who plays it down the line which is where the problems really start . How many times does Saito especially or Smyth for example receive the ball facing our own goal tight to the touch line with a defender bearing down on them ?
What are they supposed to do with this ? If we are lucky , they manage to get it back to the full back but often it gets lost and it’s not surprising.
This has to change ! We can’t just continue with something that doesn’t get any rewards.

Lots of work for MC to do but he and we are stuck . We don’t have the players to fill in the gaps in midfield and link play to the forwards . With Colbsck back soon hopefully maybe we have to do what we did last season and stop teams first before trying to be creative the other way , but I do wonder if Hayden was more important than we thought ?
Our wide players are too ‘wide’ leaving Madsen and Andersen and Frey too big an area to fill. Which then isolates poor Frey or Celar. And Celar looks lost in it .

We need to start again and play more compact but we are too soft, to physically frail, too slow around the pitch, too quiet, and too wide open right now and if it continues we are in for a long and painful winter.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 00:44 - Oct 2 with 1580 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:30 - Oct 1 by Beckenhamhoop

Dunne’s complete lack of pace would have been even worse against Millar.


What Dunne lacks in pace he makes up in height, physicality and championship nous.

In any event, I did say "Either revert Dunne to RB or give Ashby a go." You've conveniently ignored the Ashby part of that sentence.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 00:51 - Oct 2 with 1566 viewsSydneyRs

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 22:35 - Oct 1 by EalingHoop81

Come on everyone let’s get a bit of a grip. They scored an absolute worldy against the run of play and Anderson had a complete brain fade trying to play the ball in his own box rather than putting his foot through it. Other than that, we completely battered them in the first half.

The second half was frustrating and they played very well on the break. The real issue here is not the last 20 mins but rather our inability to put the ball in the net when we’re on top. We should have been 2 up in 5 mins, could have scored a couple in the first 10 after half time, but continuously we shoot high too high or straight at the keeper. There’s a real lack of composure in front of goal and it’s costing us.

It will come, the new players will improve with minutes in the division and we’ll be fine this season. But the expectations are too high. Last season we didn’t even look like scoring a goal from open play at this stage. Keep the faith


We seem to have been the victims of quite a few of these low percentage "worldy" oppo goals this season which surely has to even out. Goals as always change games.
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Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 00:54 - Oct 2 with 1552 viewsNorthernr

Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes on 00:51 - Oct 2 by SydneyRs

We seem to have been the victims of quite a few of these low percentage "worldy" oppo goals this season which surely has to even out. Goals as always change games.


The right full back won't score 20 yarders against you from corners if you stick one of your midget wingers on the centre spot while they take them because he'll be back there marking him.
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