| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 17:40 - Aug 14 with 3848 views | ThurrockJack92 |
Really hope this one comes off. Could be what we need at no 10, which would allow us to drop Fulton and move Franco in his place. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but if that happens I think we will be a much different prospect to what we have been in the last two matches. |  | |  |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:10 - Aug 14 with 3741 views | union_jack |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 17:40 - Aug 14 by ThurrockJack92 |
Really hope this one comes off. Could be what we need at no 10, which would allow us to drop Fulton and move Franco in his place. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but if that happens I think we will be a much different prospect to what we have been in the last two matches. |
Only if the coach allows it đđ |  |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:31 - Aug 14 with 3671 views | KeithHaynes |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:10 - Aug 14 by union_jack |
Only if the coach allows it đđ |
On last nights evidence there is only concern from me.
Against a ten man league two side we struggled to even break our walking pace, continually passing backwards, no courage up until Tymon and Eom came on. That style of football was far poorer than any of the worst games Martin served up. |  |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:34 - Aug 14 with 3651 views | max936 |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:31 - Aug 14 by KeithHaynes |
On last nights evidence there is only concern from me.
Against a ten man league two side we struggled to even break our walking pace, continually passing backwards, no courage up until Tymon and Eom came on. That style of football was far poorer than any of the worst games Martin served up. |
Its a strange one considering the praise he received at Notts County, just what have the players been doing in this pre-season  |  |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:34 - Aug 14 with 3649 views | AnotherJohn |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:31 - Aug 14 by KeithHaynes |
On last nights evidence there is only concern from me.
Against a ten man league two side we struggled to even break our walking pace, continually passing backwards, no courage up until Tymon and Eom came on. That style of football was far poorer than any of the worst games Martin served up. |
I was thinking I should give the manager the benefit of the doubt, but his after match statement depressed me. Does he really believe it was a generally satisfactory performance? |  | | |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:44 - Aug 14 with 3584 views | onehunglow |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:34 - Aug 14 by AnotherJohn |
I was thinking I should give the manager the benefit of the doubt, but his after match statement depressed me. Does he really believe it was a generally satisfactory performance? |
If he does,then make no mistake ,we are in deep doodoo.
He is as ill suited as Duff,for me.
He has shown nothing to nurture support for any plan.
Duff was sacked before any plan he might have had came to fruition .
This fella has had more time ,yet I suggest it is a chronic problem we have with him.
We wonât be so lucky getting rid of him either .
All we can hope is he gets that peed off ,he feels it best for him to go.
The testâŚ.if he kept tonight,how many would miss him. | |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:50 - Aug 14 with 3529 views | KeithHaynes |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:34 - Aug 14 by max936 |
Its a strange one considering the praise he received at Notts County, just what have the players been doing in this pre-season |
His style of football was far more fluid and rapid at County.
Heâs definitely changed his way of thinking. Overdoing what he perceives to be the âSwansea wayâ in a slow stroll of possession that will ensure a cure for insomnia. | |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:52 - Aug 14 with 3509 views | max936 |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:50 - Aug 14 by KeithHaynes |
His style of football was far more fluid and rapid at County.
Heâs definitely changed his way of thinking. Overdoing what he perceives to be the âSwansea wayâ in a slow stroll of possession that will ensure a cure for insomnia. |
Is it all his doing though, he's got "advisers" at the club I expect. | |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:58 - Aug 14 with 3452 views | KeithHaynes |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:52 - Aug 14 by max936 |
Is it all his doing though, he's got "advisers" at the club I expect. |
I canât believe any manager would accept advice from non coaching staff.
He has a good team around him, they all seem focussed on a certain style of play, if only it could be played out with more pace. | |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:58 - Aug 14 with 3434 views | onehunglow |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:52 - Aug 14 by max936 |
Is it all his doing though, he's got "advisers" at the club I expect. |
You thinking our job is too big for him?
It is
Itâs a big job to get us right and they wonât pay for quality and experience | |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:02 - Aug 14 with 3416 views | raynor94 |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:58 - Aug 14 by KeithHaynes |
I canât believe any manager would accept advice from non coaching staff.
He has a good team around him, they all seem focussed on a certain style of play, if only it could be played out with more pace. |
Been saying it since the Euros, teams are playing far more high tempo, with wingers getting crosses in.
Even Gillingham supporters saying they feel sorry for our striker |  |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:06 - Aug 14 with 3370 views | onehunglow |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:02 - Aug 14 by raynor94 |
Been saying it since the Euros, teams are playing far more high tempo, with wingers getting crosses in.
Even Gillingham supporters saying they feel sorry for our striker |
He must have felt like a kid left alone in a school ground game . | |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 20:49 - Aug 14 with 3115 views | GVJack |
Lads it's two games into a long season. We lost 1-0 away to Boro. No shame in that. We were better than our opposition in every way last night (as you'd expect against a team two divisions below) despite having made 6 changes to the starting line up. It's not all doom and gloom.
We are all in agreement we need more signings (Luke Williams included as he has gone on record and said as much). If you can't win a game, try to not lose it. Luke Williams will first and foremost try to make us difficult to beat by us maintaining possession. Some like it, some don't. But if he thinks that's the best way to get results in the short term until he gets the players in and adapted to his style (hopefully like he showed at Notts County) then so be it.
There's more than 1 way to win a game of football, this at the moment seems to be an attritional, tiring the opposition out and waiting for there to be a lapse in concentration to nab a goal or two, bringing on fresh legs in final 20 minutes to and increase the tempo at that point. I may not be fully entertained like those supporters at the Etihad every week, but I'm still 100% behind my team and manager.
I want 3 or 4 in, but with players due back from injury I think we could be two decent playmakers away from being a completely different entity. It's going to take time (to move existing players on and bring fresh in) .. So let's give it. | | | |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 20:59 - Aug 14 with 3075 views | GVJack |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 20:49 - Aug 14 by GVJack |
Lads it's two games into a long season. We lost 1-0 away to Boro. No shame in that. We were better than our opposition in every way last night (as you'd expect against a team two divisions below) despite having made 6 changes to the starting line up. It's not all doom and gloom.
We are all in agreement we need more signings (Luke Williams included as he has gone on record and said as much). If you can't win a game, try to not lose it. Luke Williams will first and foremost try to make us difficult to beat by us maintaining possession. Some like it, some don't. But if he thinks that's the best way to get results in the short term until he gets the players in and adapted to his style (hopefully like he showed at Notts County) then so be it.
There's more than 1 way to win a game of football, this at the moment seems to be an attritional, tiring the opposition out and waiting for there to be a lapse in concentration to nab a goal or two, bringing on fresh legs in final 20 minutes to and increase the tempo at that point. I may not be fully entertained like those supporters at the Etihad every week, but I'm still 100% behind my team and manager.
I want 3 or 4 in, but with players due back from injury I think we could be two decent playmakers away from being a completely different entity. It's going to take time (to move existing players on and bring fresh in) .. So let's give it. |
Apologies for my "Lads" comment. I shouldn't assume gender identity and I'm sure there are birds on here as well
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 21:06 - Aug 14 with 3039 views | jack247 |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:34 - Aug 14 by max936 |
Its a strange one considering the praise he received at Notts County, just what have the players been doing in this pre-season |
More concerning for me, is that we were playing better and getting the ball to the wings quicker towards the end of last season than in any of the three games Iâve seen so far (including Rio Ave). | | | |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 17:11 - Aug 15 with 2524 views | howenjack |
could be the new cog in the wheel?? | | | |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 17:47 - Aug 15 with 2389 views | KeithHaynes |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 20:49 - Aug 14 by GVJack |
Lads it's two games into a long season. We lost 1-0 away to Boro. No shame in that. We were better than our opposition in every way last night (as you'd expect against a team two divisions below) despite having made 6 changes to the starting line up. It's not all doom and gloom.
We are all in agreement we need more signings (Luke Williams included as he has gone on record and said as much). If you can't win a game, try to not lose it. Luke Williams will first and foremost try to make us difficult to beat by us maintaining possession. Some like it, some don't. But if he thinks that's the best way to get results in the short term until he gets the players in and adapted to his style (hopefully like he showed at Notts County) then so be it.
There's more than 1 way to win a game of football, this at the moment seems to be an attritional, tiring the opposition out and waiting for there to be a lapse in concentration to nab a goal or two, bringing on fresh legs in final 20 minutes to and increase the tempo at that point. I may not be fully entertained like those supporters at the Etihad every week, but I'm still 100% behind my team and manager.
I want 3 or 4 in, but with players due back from injury I think we could be two decent playmakers away from being a completely different entity. It's going to take time (to move existing players on and bring fresh in) .. So let's give it. |
Around two weeks then. | |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:36 - Aug 15 with 2234 views | Boundy |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 20:59 - Aug 14 by GVJack |
Apologies for my "Lads" comment. I shouldn't assume gender identity and I'm sure there are birds on here as well
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don't forget there are others  | |
| "In a free society, the State is the servant of the peopleânot the master." |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:38 - Aug 15 with 2230 views | GVJack |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 17:47 - Aug 15 by KeithHaynes |
Around two weeks then. |
If you think 2 transfer windows is enough time to completely overhaul the team/squad to his requirements. | | | |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:31 - Aug 15 with 2151 views | onehunglow |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:38 - Aug 15 by GVJack |
If you think 2 transfer windows is enough time to completely overhaul the team/squad to his requirements. |
But itâs not totally about the squad
Itâs how they are coached to play | |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:33 - Aug 15 with 2135 views | KeithHaynes |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 18:38 - Aug 15 by GVJack |
If you think 2 transfer windows is enough time to completely overhaul the team/squad to his requirements. |
Iâm unsure why the squad should be overhauled when it was overhauled last summer.
Well never get it right. | |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:42 - Aug 15 with 2077 views | Dr_Winston |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:33 - Aug 15 by KeithHaynes |
Iâm unsure why the squad should be overhauled when it was overhauled last summer.
Well never get it right. |
The overhauls are the problem.
We succeeded best when we tinkered least. Flynn to Jackett to Martinez to Sousa to Rodgers weren't huge leaps. Small adjustments to a general style, with each incumbent putting their own spin on things.
Flynn liked passing football, but was too lazy to be in work more than a couple of days a week to implement it. KJ's team played much better football than most gave him credit for, and were a bit more robust and physically competitive than Flynn. Martinez benefitted massively from that robustness, but added more flair. Sousa gave the team steel at the expense of some of that flair. Rodgers melded the best of all Worlds and delivered the big prize.
Point is there were no major changes in approach during that period. Some of the best performers of the Martinez era had actually been scouted for KJ, Scotland and Bodde included, which is absurd if you're one of those who bought into the nonsense that they were poles apart.
What we've done lately is chopped and changed too much. Yes, it was obvious that the Martin approach was flawed and a change was necessary, but not that much of one. When the change didn't work we decided to go right back again, which resulted in a collossal waste of money.
We have to decide what type of team that we want to be and stick to it, with evolution rather than revolution as the key. That's where ownership has failed miserably in recent years. Not funding, not "backing", but consistency. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:43 - Aug 15 with 2079 views | GVJack |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:31 - Aug 15 by onehunglow |
But itâs not totally about the squad
Itâs how they are coached to play |
100%. The blame will always lay on the managers/head coaches door but that is a collective effort for the whole backroom staff - how many came in with Williams (or have since joined)?
It's also about tactics of course, but since we've had Williams in charge we've recruited Ronald, Eom, Viptonik and Vigaroux and Franco. All primed to come straight into the first team.
I think (hope) when he gets his final pieces of the jigsaw in (at least another central midfielder and a number 10 is key) then I think we'll see the tempo increase and play a lot more direct and attacking football.
Unless we go on an absolute barren run and are languishing at the foot of the table I'm going to reserve judgement and give the gaffer some time. If we're within 6 points of the playoffs by the end of Feb then it's not looking too shabby a season at all.
But I do appreciate that this is an entertainment business and if fans aren't entertained they wont put money in the coffers... Unless we're successful that is! | | | |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:51 - Aug 15 with 2041 views | onehunglow |
| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 19:43 - Aug 15 by GVJack |
100%. The blame will always lay on the managers/head coaches door but that is a collective effort for the whole backroom staff - how many came in with Williams (or have since joined)?
It's also about tactics of course, but since we've had Williams in charge we've recruited Ronald, Eom, Viptonik and Vigaroux and Franco. All primed to come straight into the first team.
I think (hope) when he gets his final pieces of the jigsaw in (at least another central midfielder and a number 10 is key) then I think we'll see the tempo increase and play a lot more direct and attacking football.
Unless we go on an absolute barren run and are languishing at the foot of the table I'm going to reserve judgement and give the gaffer some time. If we're within 6 points of the playoffs by the end of Feb then it's not looking too shabby a season at all.
But I do appreciate that this is an entertainment business and if fans aren't entertained they wont put money in the coffers... Unless we're successful that is! |
It really should be simple
Iâve seen already this season,excuses n being made and attacks on fellow fans when these attacks should be aimed at those who coach and set up teams.
We play a certain way,every team knows that . We donât change . We wonât . No matter what .
Fans are drifting away and those that are not are quiet and give the impression of going as a matter of duty . This hurts but itâs true .
Fans wonât be coming back in a hurry. Made worse by the inane drivel from Williams post match against a ten man Gillingham team that scored against us whilst one man down .
Alarm bells should be ringing very loud
There was enough quality last season to finish top six
They might even be this season
Fact is the way they are miscoached and mismanaged creates the issues that see us lower table with lower crowds .
When this is pointed out,some get defensive ,which is understandable really.
Why?
Itâs because we are hurting and yearn for our Mojo back .
It wonât under Williams . He wonât last this season. | |
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| Noel Milleskog puts himself in the Swansea shop window on 20:31 - Aug 15 with 1932 views | GVJack |
You'll all have a much brighter outlook on the future when we spank Preston 3-0 this Saturday  | | | |
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