| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread 23:10 - Jun 25 with 43875 views | Ned_Kennedys |
We’ve had three match threads from a Southgate fan and three terrible England performances so surely it’s time to have one from a Southgate critic?
Walker switched to LB, TAA in at right back, Bellingham dropped back next to Rice, Foden central, Gordon on the left and Palmer on the right. Come on Gareth: you can do it! [Post edited 27 Jun 15:28]
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| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 21:37 - Jun 30 with 2043 views | CamberleyR |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 21:00 - Jun 30 by Hayesender |
That ref was shocking (for both teams).
Not condoning it, but I can see why that club owner in Turkey attacked him |
That was him?
Makes a lot of sense. The Turkish Keith Stroud. |  |
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| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 22:11 - Jun 30 with 1887 views | paulparker |
How lucky is boregate
He even tried to throw it away still when we went 2-1 up by putting 10 men behind the ball |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 22:50 - Jun 30 with 1698 views | ParkRoyalR |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 20:59 - Jun 30 by bosh67 |
Tonie made a huge difference. He's just so calm and has real game intelligence. We looked so much better with him and Kane up top. |
Decent if basic headed assist but I thought looked a level below any other player technique wise and made zero effort out of possession compared to other Subs like Gallagher,
Given the team has no structure or tactics and resorted to aimless crosses, if they don't up their game soon he'll likely be their best option, which is a damning indictment of Southgate and his laughably inept backroom team. |  | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 22:54 - Jun 30 with 1675 views | Bluce_Ree |
Palmer looked way better than Foden. That's one change I need to see in the next match. |  |
| Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. Stefan Moore, Stefan Moore running down the wing. He runs like a cheetah, his crosses couldn't be sweeter. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. Stefan Moore. |
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| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 22:56 - Jun 30 with 1664 views | strikerace |
Toney, Eze, Palmer, and Mainoo, Southgate needs to take out his "untouchable" players and start playing the guys who can fit the system. Even like to see Bowen out there. | | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 22:57 - Jun 30 with 1663 views | daveB |
England were poor for most of the game, looked nervous beforehand and just never got going. Foden & Saka just not working out wide, Stones and Walker really poor, we got better second half but not by much.
Couldn't see us scoring but what a goal by Bellingham.
Extra time was just as bad after we scored but got over the line, performance and result similar to Germany struggling to beat Algeria in 2014 world cup.
So much to improve on but a massive hurdle conquered today to win that game
I'll leave this one with you whilst you spend another week slaughtering the manager and his staff
1968 - 2018 - England won 6 knockout games
We've won 7 so far under Southgate |  | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 23:00 - Jun 30 with 1660 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 22:57 - Jun 30 by daveB |
England were poor for most of the game, looked nervous beforehand and just never got going. Foden & Saka just not working out wide, Stones and Walker really poor, we got better second half but not by much.
Couldn't see us scoring but what a goal by Bellingham.
Extra time was just as bad after we scored but got over the line, performance and result similar to Germany struggling to beat Algeria in 2014 world cup.
So much to improve on but a massive hurdle conquered today to win that game
I'll leave this one with you whilst you spend another week slaughtering the manager and his staff
1968 - 2018 - England won 6 knockout games
We've won 7 so far under Southgate |
Sounds like you are saying that we are playing shit and winning under Southgate rather than playing shit and losing under almost everyone else. |  | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 23:26 - Jun 30 with 1536 views | CiderwithRsie |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 20:46 - Jun 30 by hubble |
Toney looks good though, doesn't he. He's a smart footballer. I like him. And Southgate is definitely lucky. Finding his best team out as he stumbles along and just about keeping his balance. It's a tightrope act. Gareth Blondini. |
Pretty much what Bobby Robson did in '86. | | | |
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| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 23:34 - Jun 30 with 1504 views | Stanisgod |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 20:00 - Jun 30 by kensalriser |
We did deserve it, we scored more goals than they did and they were good goals, not flukes. There's no bonus for scoring early or first.
Not that I'm arguing it wasn't another rank performance. Another one like that and Switzerland will win as easily as they beat Italy. |
So Eze didn't completely mis kick the ball for the second goal set up then ? |  |
| It's being so happy that keeps me going. |
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| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 23:49 - Jun 30 with 1439 views | rbee |
daveB
''I'll leave this one with you whilst you spend another week slaughtering the manager and his staff''
People go over the top for sure but the nations media really are the villains here. Journalists and pundits alike have put the England team on a pedestal and whipped up the country in to believing that we are the favourites to win the tournament. Exactly the same people then turn on the manager and players when they put on poor performances . We should be turning on them for getting it so wrong!
Gareth and his team have been very poor but they are still in the competition. The more pragmatic of us have never expected England to win the Euros. |  | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 23:50 - Jun 30 with 1436 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 23:26 - Jun 30 by CiderwithRsie |
Pretty much what Bobby Robson did in '86. |
The difference is that Southgate will just pick the same team again apart from the enforced Guehi change. | | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 23:56 - Jun 30 with 1413 views | rbee |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 23:34 - Jun 30 by Stanisgod |
So Eze didn't completely mis kick the ball for the second goal set up then ? |
Not completely no as the ball ended up in the penalty area. | | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 23:59 - Jun 30 with 1406 views | stowmarketrange |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 22:57 - Jun 30 by daveB |
England were poor for most of the game, looked nervous beforehand and just never got going. Foden & Saka just not working out wide, Stones and Walker really poor, we got better second half but not by much.
Couldn't see us scoring but what a goal by Bellingham.
Extra time was just as bad after we scored but got over the line, performance and result similar to Germany struggling to beat Algeria in 2014 world cup.
So much to improve on but a massive hurdle conquered today to win that game
I'll leave this one with you whilst you spend another week slaughtering the manager and his staff
1968 - 2018 - England won 6 knockout games
We've won 7 so far under Southgate |
To be fair there weren’t round of 16 games to win in most of those previous 50 years,and that’s where a few of Southgate’s 7 wins have come from.
A lot of previous winners of the Euros haven’t had the same quality players that we have in this current squad,but Southgate needs to find a way to allow them to play as a team capable of actually winning something. |  | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 00:09 - Jul 1 with 1379 views | rbee |
Too late I think as he took the wrong players to the tournament. He took a risk with Luke Shaw which is fine by me but he didn't take another left back with him so we start the competition with square pegs in round holes which is simply bonkers. | | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 00:18 - Jul 1 with 1335 views | ParkRoyalR |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 22:57 - Jun 30 by daveB |
England were poor for most of the game, looked nervous beforehand and just never got going. Foden & Saka just not working out wide, Stones and Walker really poor, we got better second half but not by much.
Couldn't see us scoring but what a goal by Bellingham.
Extra time was just as bad after we scored but got over the line, performance and result similar to Germany struggling to beat Algeria in 2014 world cup.
So much to improve on but a massive hurdle conquered today to win that game
I'll leave this one with you whilst you spend another week slaughtering the manager and his staff
1968 - 2018 - England won 6 knockout games
We've won 7 so far under Southgate |
Slaughtering the Manager, no shot on target for 90 minutes and he made 1 forced substitution on 65mins and a tactical substitution on 86mins, blokes on £5m quid a year and he's clueless. | | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 00:23 - Jul 1 with 1323 views | Midlands_Ranger |
Saka has been awful the entire tournament, really disappointing, Foden also and so many others...but we are still in it and who knows. Its going to take a LOT though if we are going to progress, changes have to be made, we didn't win this one because of the starting 11....so the changes should come naturally but Southgate will probably stick to the same old...that performance is a loss against the big guns. |  | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 00:36 - Jul 1 with 1292 views | kensalriser |
Saka has been poor and hasn't done enough to keep a starting place in front of Palmer. |  |
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| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 00:44 - Jul 1 with 1285 views | queensparker |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 23:34 - Jun 30 by Stanisgod |
So Eze didn't completely mis kick the ball for the second goal set up then ? |
He had a shot, instead of taking three touches and passing it back to Pickford. It was a shite shot obviously but what do you know - it led to a goal.
Why this team are so terrified of playing forward given how good they are I don’t know. Show some bollox and they’ll beat anyone |  | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 00:45 - Jul 1 with 1284 views | rbee |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 00:18 - Jul 1 by ParkRoyalR |
Slaughtering the Manager, no shot on target for 90 minutes and he made 1 forced substitution on 65mins and a tactical substitution on 86mins, blokes on £5m quid a year and he's clueless. |
What's new? Gareth is a lucky manager but his record so far is stealing defeat from the jaws of victory.
Gareth has five days to go back to the drawing board, wipe it clean and start over. He should look at his squad forget about personalities and history and concentrate on selecting a team capable of beating the Swiss. This team should take to the field confident, crystal clear on what is expected of them and the roles they should play.
I do not believe that Gareth and his team are capable of doing this whereas the vast majority of Premier League managers are. I hope he proves me wrong. | | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 01:39 - Jul 1 with 2577 views | SydneyRs |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 00:45 - Jul 1 by rbee |
What's new? Gareth is a lucky manager but his record so far is stealing defeat from the jaws of victory.
Gareth has five days to go back to the drawing board, wipe it clean and start over. He should look at his squad forget about personalities and history and concentrate on selecting a team capable of beating the Swiss. This team should take to the field confident, crystal clear on what is expected of them and the roles they should play.
I do not believe that Gareth and his team are capable of doing this whereas the vast majority of Premier League managers are. I hope he proves me wrong. |
This is the problem. Just pick the best players available in each position instead of trying to squeeze in the names. This tournament isn't that strong and we're likely to throw away the opportunity. | | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 02:33 - Jul 1 with 2497 views | Hooparoo |
Still think Spain are the best team I've seen. I reckon the eventual winner will come from Germany v Spain in the quarters. England have the squad to improve but they just seem to lack the right mentality. France or Portugal - maybe? |  |
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| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 03:43 - Jul 1 with 2464 views | numptydumpty |
England in tournament football is a hard watch.
But whatever people think
World Cup 2018 Semi Finals
Euros 2020 Final
World Cup 2022 Quarter Finals
Euros 2024 Quarter Finals (Minimum)
Better than
Hodgson
Allardyce
Mclaren
Capello
Erickson
Keegan
Taylor
Greenwood
Revie
Only ones felt done better
Venables
Ramsey
Similar to
Robson
My view about England, it's the fans that have ALWAYS been the PROBLEM
We expect to win every tournament playing stunning football
We have the premier league where we watch some amazing football but this is over 40 odd games and the players all know each other's styles well and play with all fantastic players.
What other countries have done better than this, but we always expect incredible football and to win the tournament.
The ENGLAND FANS are and always have been the problem.
We are not going to win this tournament but if we do and everyone not happy with the style, Southgate will still get the CRAP
Absolute joke are England fans
For craps sake - maybe fans could consider the pressure these fans put on these young men and their manager has always meant our players have always crumbled under the pressure.
Support your country, your players and your manager.
England fans always have been an embarrassment |  |
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| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 03:54 - Jul 1 with 2450 views | rbee |
The majority of fans take their lead from the media who are worse than the fans.
When the lads won in 1966 they were shielded from the media and all it took was no TV and newspapers.
Today the players and management are under the microscope and can't get away from it. It's the same for every country of course but our media can be some of the worst. It started with a Turnip you know. | | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 04:19 - Jul 1 with 2402 views | QuillPenRiot |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 18:38 - Jun 30 by Westy75 |
Bellingham has been shit. No way justified his section in this one. |
Well we all eat our own shit at some point….I think Southgate never gives them a solid framework and pattern about how to play
And that was the most remarkable bicycle kick goal I’ve ever seen…the timing, it was like he was spinning in air as the pass was just leaving the foot |  | | |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 04:38 - Jul 1 with 2380 views | Westy75 |
| England v Slovakia last 16 Match Thread on 04:19 - Jul 1 by QuillPenRiot |
Well we all eat our own shit at some point….I think Southgate never gives them a solid framework and pattern about how to play
And that was the most remarkable bicycle kick goal I’ve ever seen…the timing, it was like he was spinning in air as the pass was just leaving the foot |
A moment of brilliance but he was still shit for most of the game, and a player in better touch might well have seen us with the game in the bag without needing it. Delighted to still be in it but the lack of humility from Southgate in his post match interviews grates with me, as if this was all part of the plan. He got very, very lucky. I’d love it if he learns from this one and changes things up like he should have done yesterday. We’ll see. |  | | |
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