| Jake Silverstein 10:53 - May 25 with 8961 views | KeithHaynes |
Your personal thoughts ?
Is he not the focal point for the future ? And pretty much a sensible head to steer the club ?
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| Jake Silverstein on 09:57 - May 27 with 1369 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jake Silverstein on 09:52 - May 27 by Badlands |
So did we, or the final 9 games wouldn't have yirlded 23 points with no lossses. |
We didn't have enough to finish top two. We easily had enough to make the playoffs. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Jake Silverstein on 11:05 - May 27 with 1307 views | onehunglow |
| Jake Silverstein on 09:57 - May 27 by Dr_Winston |
We didn't have enough to finish top two. We easily had enough to make the playoffs. |
Very simply,the goals conceded in suicidal fashion cost us .
Considering your prowess in scoring goals ,it makes it harder to swallow
Coventry today will ( probably) be promoted to Premier League.
A wonderful Lazarus of a recovery from the pits of despair .
Good on em |  |
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| Jake Silverstein on 11:39 - May 27 with 1273 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Jake Silverstein on 11:05 - May 27 by onehunglow |
Very simply,the goals conceded in suicidal fashion cost us .
Considering your prowess in scoring goals ,it makes it harder to swallow
Coventry today will ( probably) be promoted to Premier League.
A wonderful Lazarus of a recovery from the pits of despair .
Good on em |
While there were a lot of near misses actually how many goals were conceded from playing out from the back directly?. One or two maybe and it was getting less.
How often did nervous moments convert into goal against. I do not remember many. Nervous moments are part of the package if the club can perfect the art like Man City. It also means that a player like wood sees i his value rocket and be linked with the biggest and the best and those with the deepest pockects. |  |
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| Jake Silverstein on 11:59 - May 27 with 1275 views | QJumpingJack |
| Jake Silverstein on 11:39 - May 27 by ReslovenSwan1 |
While there were a lot of near misses actually how many goals were conceded from playing out from the back directly?. One or two maybe and it was getting less.
How often did nervous moments convert into goal against. I do not remember many. Nervous moments are part of the package if the club can perfect the art like Man City. It also means that a player like wood sees i his value rocket and be linked with the biggest and the best and those with the deepest pockects. |
Reading away in April 2022 springs to mind. | | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 13:02 - May 27 with 1226 views | max936 |
| Jake Silverstein on 11:05 - May 27 by onehunglow |
Very simply,the goals conceded in suicidal fashion cost us .
Considering your prowess in scoring goals ,it makes it harder to swallow
Coventry today will ( probably) be promoted to Premier League.
A wonderful Lazarus of a recovery from the pits of despair .
Good on em |
A lot of those goals are down to the ability of the players we have surely, Martin insisted on trying to make a silk purse out of a pigs ear, Pep has the players with the composure to do it little old Swansea don't, I've long since said this some cottoned on at the time others took longer and others much longer. |  |
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| Jake Silverstein on 13:31 - May 27 with 1201 views | ploppy |
| Jake Silverstein on 11:59 - May 27 by QJumpingJack |
Reading away in April 2022 springs to mind. |
And that was last season.
I was going to ask the same question. People say we play suicidal football but in reality very few goals are conceded as a result. Someone should go through our games and tot them up. Recently against West Brom was one - but I blame that on Ntcham who seemed to lose his footing but could have yanked the player back and taken a yellow card for the team.
Anyway, it's all about the risk/reward. Football has moved on since the 70s. | | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 13:46 - May 27 with 1193 views | max936 |
| Jake Silverstein on 13:31 - May 27 by ploppy |
And that was last season.
I was going to ask the same question. People say we play suicidal football but in reality very few goals are conceded as a result. Someone should go through our games and tot them up. Recently against West Brom was one - but I blame that on Ntcham who seemed to lose his footing but could have yanked the player back and taken a yellow card for the team.
Anyway, it's all about the risk/reward. Football has moved on since the 70s. |
"Anyway, it's all about the risk/reward. Football has moved on since the 70s."
That's fine, but you still have to have those players with the ability and composure on the ball to play that type of game. | |
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| Jake Silverstein on 14:00 - May 27 with 1187 views | ploppy |
| Jake Silverstein on 13:46 - May 27 by max936 |
"Anyway, it's all about the risk/reward. Football has moved on since the 70s."
That's fine, but you still have to have those players with the ability and composure on the ball to play that type of game. |
Indeed you do, and I'd argue we're pretty close. Cabango worries me though.
More worrying for me is Grimes, and his habit of giving the ball away in very dangerous positions. He seems to do it at least once per game but he gets a free pass for some reason. | | | |
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| Jake Silverstein on 14:02 - May 27 with 1186 views | Dr_Winston |
| Jake Silverstein on 13:31 - May 27 by ploppy |
And that was last season.
I was going to ask the same question. People say we play suicidal football but in reality very few goals are conceded as a result. Someone should go through our games and tot them up. Recently against West Brom was one - but I blame that on Ntcham who seemed to lose his footing but could have yanked the player back and taken a yellow card for the team.
Anyway, it's all about the risk/reward. Football has moved on since the 70s. |
If we hadn't reverted back to the comedy goal kick routine we wouldn't have been in a position whereby a slip from one player could have left us in that position in the first place.
At one point we had the second worst defensive record in the division. After shifting to a flat back four and cutting out a lot of the idiocy we conceded just nine goals in ten games. The first game that the idiocy reappears we concede a stupid goal as a result.
I can't see how the argument against Martin's preferred style can be any more justified. [Post edited 27 May 2023 14:41]
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| Jake Silverstein on 14:03 - May 27 with 1182 views | max936 |
| Jake Silverstein on 14:00 - May 27 by ploppy |
Indeed you do, and I'd argue we're pretty close. Cabango worries me though.
More worrying for me is Grimes, and his habit of giving the ball away in very dangerous positions. He seems to do it at least once per game but he gets a free pass for some reason. |
If he goes he'll need replacing he's decent enough for us, not a Captain for me though, but I don't see what goes on through the week or in the dressing room, so I'm probably wrong. | |
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| Jake Silverstein on 14:50 - May 27 with 1141 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
The philosophy is clear.
All Swansea players should have the basics of ball control calmness good passing and strength on the ball. They should know what to do under all circumstances and putting in out of play is just one of many options.
Putting the ball in touch gives a long throw team a shot at goal. Having a player who cannotdo these thing becomes a target to be pressurised. Most if not all Premier league teams play like this. Swansea should play like this and had 2 years of practice throughout the age groups.
Premier leagues teams supported by Middle east Governments can always come to Swansea and offer big money to get ready made players of the shelf for a mutual beneficial trade. Fees for modestly talented players has crashed. However players with big potential are still sourced.
Other teams ned to understand any player wth a Swansea CV can play.
Rushesha for example released by Swansea is not big enough? and possibly not fast enough? and has had bad injuries but the man can play. He is a Swansea product.
"Made in Swansea" kitemark of quality. | |
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| Jake Silverstein on 15:30 - May 27 with 1128 views | QJumpingJack |
There was about 10 consecutive midweek games under Martin from mid 2022 to late 2022 that Swans could not hold onto lead.
I remember being at Oxford in the Cup and that time it seemed a new low. | | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 15:33 - May 27 with 1126 views | QJumpingJack |
I wonder how impressed Levien, Kaplan and Silverstein have been with Coleman in his first three weeks as chairman................ | | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 15:39 - May 27 with 1121 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Jake Silverstein on 15:30 - May 27 by QJumpingJack |
There was about 10 consecutive midweek games under Martin from mid 2022 to late 2022 that Swans could not hold onto lead.
I remember being at Oxford in the Cup and that time it seemed a new low. |
I remember a comment about a former Home Secretary being greased up and attempting to walk his dog getting swiftly removed. |  |
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| Jake Silverstein on 16:31 - May 27 with 1078 views | ploppy |
| Jake Silverstein on 14:02 - May 27 by Dr_Winston |
If we hadn't reverted back to the comedy goal kick routine we wouldn't have been in a position whereby a slip from one player could have left us in that position in the first place.
At one point we had the second worst defensive record in the division. After shifting to a flat back four and cutting out a lot of the idiocy we conceded just nine goals in ten games. The first game that the idiocy reappears we concede a stupid goal as a result.
I can't see how the argument against Martin's preferred style can be any more justified. [Post edited 27 May 2023 14:41]
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The "comedy goal kick routine" is here to stay, so you'd best get used to it. The goal kick rule was changed specifically to encourage this type of play. The better teams have embraced it. We should be aiming to do the same. It's not the 70s anymore. | | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 16:37 - May 27 with 1075 views | ploppy |
| Jake Silverstein on 14:03 - May 27 by max936 |
If he goes he'll need replacing he's decent enough for us, not a Captain for me though, but I don't see what goes on through the week or in the dressing room, so I'm probably wrong. |
He'll need replacing for sure. We're pretty light in that area because of Joey's age and Walsh's injury problems. I'd prefer to see someone genuinely too-footed in that position. And he's not captain material for me. | | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 17:54 - May 27 with 1021 views | nantywatcher |
| Jake Silverstein on 16:37 - May 27 by ploppy |
He'll need replacing for sure. We're pretty light in that area because of Joey's age and Walsh's injury problems. I'd prefer to see someone genuinely too-footed in that position. And he's not captain material for me. |
Superb footballer - excellent captain who leads by example. Massive loss if he goes. | | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 18:08 - May 27 with 1007 views | max936 |
| Jake Silverstein on 17:54 - May 27 by nantywatcher |
Superb footballer - excellent captain who leads by example. Massive loss if he goes. |
He'll be missed I'm sure, but not sure about his captaining qualities, we don't see much of it on the field, he's always calm and composed though, but I expect his captain credentials come to the fore through the week, at least 3 managers have seen his qualities to have given him the armband. | |
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| Jake Silverstein on 18:22 - May 27 with 992 views | Whiterockin |
| Jake Silverstein on 18:08 - May 27 by max936 |
He'll be missed I'm sure, but not sure about his captaining qualities, we don't see much of it on the field, he's always calm and composed though, but I expect his captain credentials come to the fore through the week, at least 3 managers have seen his qualities to have given him the armband. |
If he's on the reported £18K a week and settled here with a young family, how much would it take Grimes to move? RM may want him but after all he's moving from one championship club to another, would he want to move, its not the Premier league. Realistically if they are not pushing for promotion at Christmas RM may be gone. Nothing is simple probably why negotiations are taking so long, particularly when players are on holiday. |  | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 18:34 - May 27 with 967 views | Fireboy2 |
| Jake Silverstein on 18:22 - May 27 by Whiterockin |
If he's on the reported £18K a week and settled here with a young family, how much would it take Grimes to move? RM may want him but after all he's moving from one championship club to another, would he want to move, its not the Premier league. Realistically if they are not pushing for promotion at Christmas RM may be gone. Nothing is simple probably why negotiations are taking so long, particularly when players are on holiday. |
Depends on what soton offer him, might be too much to refuse. |  | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 18:37 - May 27 with 960 views | max936 |
| Jake Silverstein on 18:22 - May 27 by Whiterockin |
If he's on the reported £18K a week and settled here with a young family, how much would it take Grimes to move? RM may want him but after all he's moving from one championship club to another, would he want to move, its not the Premier league. Realistically if they are not pushing for promotion at Christmas RM may be gone. Nothing is simple probably why negotiations are taking so long, particularly when players are on holiday. |
I hope he stays and that's coming from someone who has often criticised him. | |
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| Jake Silverstein on 18:38 - May 27 with 957 views | Whiterockin |
| Jake Silverstein on 18:34 - May 27 by Fireboy2 |
Depends on what soton offer him, might be too much to refuse. |
I recon it would need to be £25K a week minimum, then there's the captaincy issue. | | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 21:24 - May 27 with 881 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Jake Silverstein on 16:31 - May 27 by ploppy |
The "comedy goal kick routine" is here to stay, so you'd best get used to it. The goal kick rule was changed specifically to encourage this type of play. The better teams have embraced it. We should be aiming to do the same. It's not the 70s anymore. |
The better teams have players capable of playing that way, we do not. It's that simple. | | | |
| Jake Silverstein on 21:38 - May 27 with 864 views | max936 |
| Jake Silverstein on 21:24 - May 27 by SullutaCreturned |
The better teams have players capable of playing that way, we do not. It's that simple. |
Correct. | |
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| Jake Silverstein on 22:00 - May 27 with 841 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Practice make perfect. Professional footballers should be able to play out from the back with a man advantage and movement in front of them with players that can control the ball. What do they do all day with the circle holding hands and the man in the middle.?
They Swansea defence under Brendan and Laudrup came from very humble beginings but mastered the art comfortably and strutted their stuff in Wembley, Old Trafford, Emirates Anfield, Mestella and in the Maradona with 19 year old Ben Davies. | |
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