| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. 15:33 - Aug 25 with 9604 views | Lohengrin |
Despite all the Yes Cymru stickers you’ll encounter on road signs, despite the obvious enthusiasm for political self-immolation you’ll see from a few on here and on the other place, this is the real state of public enthusiasm.
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 21:32 - Aug 30 with 1174 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 21:15 - Aug 30 by 1462jack |
Nonsense , now you want to retract or you want to be shown up for lying |
You sent me a private message with the word ‘retribution’ in it.
Thats who you are.
I have no idea who you are and i care even less. |  |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 21:38 - Aug 30 with 1164 views | 1462jack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 21:32 - Aug 30 by Kilkennyjack |
You sent me a private message with the word ‘retribution’ in it.
Thats who you are.
I have no idea who you are and i care even less. |
Right this is the private message I sent you
“ Your a rather condescending clown ain’t you , just another faceless internet mouth piece who sits behind his computer in the comfort of his own home knowing you can bump your gums without retribution”
Now where is the threat in that you liar |  | | |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 21:41 - Aug 30 with 1159 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 21:38 - Aug 30 by 1462jack |
Right this is the private message I sent you
“ Your a rather condescending clown ain’t you , just another faceless internet mouth piece who sits behind his computer in the comfort of his own home knowing you can bump your gums without retribution”
Now where is the threat in that you liar |
Look up the word retribution.
It means punishment inflicted on someone as vengeance for a wrong or criminal act.
Thats a threat.
I dont know you.
Dont private message me. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 21:49 - Aug 30 with 1152 views | 1462jack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 21:41 - Aug 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Look up the word retribution.
It means punishment inflicted on someone as vengeance for a wrong or criminal act.
Thats a threat.
I dont know you.
Dont private message me. |
Where is the threat though liar | | | |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 22:35 - Aug 30 with 1129 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 21:49 - Aug 30 by 1462jack |
Where is the threat though liar |
Why send someone that you do not know a personal message with the word ‘retribution’ in it ?
For balance i have never received anything remotely similar from any other poster on here.
You are the only one.
I am glad you are embarrassed by it.
And now everyone can judge for themselves.
I can confirm for completeness that i did not reply to you. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 22:44 - Aug 30 with 1121 views | 1462jack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 22:35 - Aug 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Why send someone that you do not know a personal message with the word ‘retribution’ in it ?
For balance i have never received anything remotely similar from any other poster on here.
You are the only one.
I am glad you are embarrassed by it.
And now everyone can judge for themselves.
I can confirm for completeness that i did not reply to you. |
Embarrassed? Not me , you are the one who made up nonsense the embarrassment lies with you | | | |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 22:51 - Aug 30 with 1113 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 22:44 - Aug 30 by 1462jack |
Embarrassed? Not me , you are the one who made up nonsense the embarrassment lies with you |
Well you should be embarrassed.
I will not offer any further comment. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 07:51 - Aug 31 with 1085 views | felixstowe_jack |
Still only 20% in favour of Welsh independence. The other 80% prefer to part of a stronger UK. |  |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 16:19 - Aug 31 with 1054 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 07:51 - Aug 31 by felixstowe_jack |
Still only 20% in favour of Welsh independence. The other 80% prefer to part of a stronger UK. |
Well yes in Felixstowe, but its the people of Wales only who get to determine the future of wales.
Latest poll is over 30% already in favour of Indy Cymru.
The direction of travel is very clear.
In the younger age groups the number is already much higher.
The future is red, white, and green.
No one man can stop the march of a nation…… 🇪🇺 ðŸ¤ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 16:51 - Aug 31 with 1047 views | Boundy |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 16:19 - Aug 31 by Kilkennyjack |
Well yes in Felixstowe, but its the people of Wales only who get to determine the future of wales.
Latest poll is over 30% already in favour of Indy Cymru.
The direction of travel is very clear.
In the younger age groups the number is already much higher.
The future is red, white, and green.
No one man can stop the march of a nation…… 🇪🇺 ðŸ¤ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿ |
No one man can stop the march of a nation…… 🇪🇺 ðŸ¤ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿
Although it likes to think it is , the EU isn't a nation | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 17:23 - Aug 31 with 1038 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 16:51 - Aug 31 by Boundy |
No one man can stop the march of a nation…… 🇪🇺 ðŸ¤ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿
Although it likes to think it is , the EU isn't a nation |
I meant Cymru mun ðŸ´ó §ó ¢ó ·ó ¬ó ³ó ¿
You knows it. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 18:14 - Aug 31 with 1023 views | johnlangy |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 07:51 - Aug 31 by felixstowe_jack |
Still only 20% in favour of Welsh independence. The other 80% prefer to part of a stronger UK. |
Ignoring the polls won't make them go away Felix. | | | |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 18:44 - Aug 31 with 1015 views | Catullus |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 18:14 - Aug 31 by johnlangy |
Ignoring the polls won't make them go away Felix. |
How is it ignoring it to state what should be obvious, still only 20% despite everything. If Bojo and his antics cannot drive more people towards indy, what do you think it will take? | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 18:46 - Aug 31 with 1003 views | union_jack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 18:14 - Aug 31 by johnlangy |
Ignoring the polls won't make them go away Felix. |
Inflating the pro-independence figures won’t make it come any quicker either. If at all! [Post edited 31 Aug 2022 18:46]
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 19:48 - Aug 31 with 992 views | onehunglow |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 19:49 - Aug 25 by Togg |
I do believe Rhondda, Cynon Valley voted out. Not all English people who reside in Wales are Brexiteers or Tories. I would think many were working class, Labour. Sold their houses and came here to live a better life.
I know a few in my family. Labour through and through and all that nonsense.. Couldn't wait to vote out. Immigration, whether right or wrong being a big one for them. |
The so called working class were /are the most xenophobic of all ,nurtured by the Likes of Tony Benn,Foot and the others who though EU was simply a capitalist behemoth.Not only that but foreign workers from the eastern bloc are
1.harder workers and
2. accept lower wages which means
Wages for our workers are kept lower
Ergo,a Polish plumber will charge less than a time served British one
They'll also do all that farm work our little delicate flowers find too demeaning to wate their time on. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 20:00 - Aug 31 with 991 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 07:51 - Aug 31 by felixstowe_jack |
Still only 20% in favour of Welsh independence. The other 80% prefer to part of a stronger UK. |
Boundy posted this specific poll earlier in the thread.
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POLL: Should Wales be an independent country:
NO: 68% (+1)
YES: 32% (-1)
Via @YouGov, On 16-19 August 2022,
Changes w/ 12-16 June 2022.
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So - repeat after me - its 32%, not 20%.
I thank you. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 20:03 - Aug 31 with 989 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 18:46 - Aug 31 by union_jack |
Inflating the pro-independence figures won’t make it come any quicker either. If at all! [Post edited 31 Aug 2022 18:46]
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The specific poll quoted was 32%.
Thats a fact.
John has not overstated that fact.
On the other hand, Felix has seemingly invented 20% which is factually incorrect. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 20:04 - Aug 31 with 988 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 18:44 - Aug 31 by Catullus |
How is it ignoring it to state what should be obvious, still only 20% despite everything. If Bojo and his antics cannot drive more people towards indy, what do you think it will take? |
Its not 20% mun. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 22:42 - Aug 31 with 959 views | raynor94 |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 22:51 - Aug 30 by Kilkennyjack |
Well you should be embarrassed.
I will not offer any further comment. |
Well you should be embarrassed, I can't count the number of times you have trolled and baited Boundy on here.
Now somebody has called you out for it, you cry Wolf |  |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 23:01 - Aug 31 with 955 views | Kilkennyjack |
Looks like a book that might interest a few on here …. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 14:37 - Sep 1 with 922 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 23:01 - Aug 31 by Kilkennyjack |
Looks like a book that might interest a few on here …. |
That should be a good aid to help you get to sleep hope Drakeford has not written a foreword for it.
Strange how some people still claim support for an independent Wales is growing yet criticism for the failings of the Senedd grow by the day. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 16:09 - Sep 1 with 911 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 20:00 - Aug 31 by Kilkennyjack |
Boundy posted this specific poll earlier in the thread.
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@electpoliticsuk
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POLL: Should Wales be an independent country:
NO: 68% (+1)
YES: 32% (-1)
Via @YouGov, On 16-19 August 2022,
Changes w/ 12-16 June 2022.
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So - repeat after me - its 32%, not 20%.
I thank you. |
Trouble is you have not included any of the don't knows or unsures given those figures are usually around 20% in most polls. That means even with your figures only about 25% of those polled wanted independence.
As you know Ukgov does not take representative samples of the population let alone restrict who can take part in their polls to anyone eligible to vote. The UKgov polls you mentioned is probably not even confined to Wales.
Therefore your conclusion are pretty unsound and have little validity.
Please come back with a valid poll take with a representative sample of eligible voters in Wales.
I refer you statista.com who regularly ask voters in Wales if they would vote for independence
They hold polls every three months
June 2020 yes 25%
October 2020 yes 23%
January 2021 yes 22%
February 2021 yes 25%
Glad to help you understand how polls work and how to understand results. [Post edited 1 Sep 2022 16:11]
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 17:21 - Sep 1 with 884 views | Kilkennyjack |
Tory lies on Cymru and Brexit.
This is what they think of Wales. | |
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| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 17:41 - Sep 1 with 879 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The real gauge as to the appetite for Welsh separatism. on 17:21 - Sep 1 by Kilkennyjack |
Tory lies on Cymru and Brexit.
This is what they think of Wales. |
Wales has had billions extra in UK government support in the last two years. Even the most bigoted anti UK idiot knowd that. The cost of furlough, vaccines and other support during covoid. Current estimates put UK support at £400 billion so Wales share if that £20 billion. I doubt if the UK were still in the EU the EU would have provided any extra funding to Wales .
Seems Vaughan guessing forgot that even though he WAS Welsh health minister. [Post edited 1 Sep 2022 17:43]
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