| When will the penny drop? 00:44 - Aug 18 with 18319 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Everything that was warned about with regards to switching to a style that the players aren’t suited to is now visible to most. There is a very good reason we didn’t start trying to be Brazil of the 1970’s over the last 2 seasons… and as a result saw the side be one of the best in the league… it’s because the manager realised the limitations of the squad and played to their strengths. That’s management.
I am wondering at what point the collective penny will drop that we cannot continue to play this way UNTIL we have the squad capable to do it. The Championship is too strong a league to be doing that, last time we got to this level we were a slick, well oiled machine with players capable of playing Premier League football in Dyer, Williams, Rangel and Britton. That spine would go on to win the League Cup, finish top half in the Premier League and perform well in Europe…. A championship spine it was not.
We had the players with ability leagues above the level they were playing at meaning we could afford to take some risks with regards to playing style. A nearing prime Leon Britton in league 1 seems a bit laughable now doesn’t it? That’s because it was.
The situation sadly is not the same today. We need to play to our strengths, get some points on the board, get the players in that we need and slowly incorporate the system you want. People talk of long term plans… and then change a system overnight?! We will get slaughtered at this level.
How about that actually becomes the longer term plan touted about and we slowly implement it while protecting our Championship status? Too mad an idea?
We do not want to lose our league position and drop down to league 1 as I see some people now happily stating they wouldn’t mind. I find that sad to read and extremely naive.
Relegation won’t mean us having an easy season to test this style against, we will lose even more players, have less income to replace them and the spiral continues. It’s an arrogant point of view to think relegation can be handled easily by the club.
Relegation is not a positive option and the fact we have gone from play offs to the Premier League to accepting the realities and the weighing up of pros and cons of League 1 football in such a short space of time should tell you something ain’t right.
I like Russell Martin, I think he has a good future in the game, my issue is not with him and I hope he stays for a long time to build something. My issue is with the attitude surrounding everything at the moment that we must play a certain way immediately, regardless of the damage it will cause.
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| When will the penny drop? on 12:07 - Feb 21 with 1011 views | onehunglow |
Cat. Read please again that which I wrote. Our club WAS created for SWANSEA people as is the case with all large Town clubs. Fans became mobile and travelled from outlying areas to support. That s fine. However, sorry but it hurts a whole city to see us as we are. People in general whether in Builth or Bogata won't be feeling as hurt as an entity
I thought I made it clearer so apogies for that. |  |
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| When will the penny drop? on 12:17 - Feb 21 with 1006 views | Catullus |
I have a question, given everything said in the OP and given that Martin seems incapable of or unwilling to change his style/tactics/strategy/way of thinking, how can you think he has a good future in the game?
Nottingham Forest fans weren't initially keen on having Cooper, maybe after reading our forums and watching how we played the last few months but they love him now...a lot. Cooper made changes, he didn't go there and try to force the same style (or styles) on them that he used here. he used what he had to his best advantage. That does make him a good manager.
If Martin persists with his flawed plan, refuses to change and gets another job after us and carries on the same, he won't have any future.
Maybe his time here will teach him a few things, maybe our club will suffer but he will learn. It's not something I'll be happy about though, I want and need him to learn now! | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 12:21 - Feb 21 with 995 views | onehunglow |
| When will the penny drop? on 12:17 - Feb 21 by Catullus |
I have a question, given everything said in the OP and given that Martin seems incapable of or unwilling to change his style/tactics/strategy/way of thinking, how can you think he has a good future in the game?
Nottingham Forest fans weren't initially keen on having Cooper, maybe after reading our forums and watching how we played the last few months but they love him now...a lot. Cooper made changes, he didn't go there and try to force the same style (or styles) on them that he used here. he used what he had to his best advantage. That does make him a good manager.
If Martin persists with his flawed plan, refuses to change and gets another job after us and carries on the same, he won't have any future.
Maybe his time here will teach him a few things, maybe our club will suffer but he will learn. It's not something I'll be happy about though, I want and need him to learn now! |
Wish I d written that. Life and me would then agree | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 12:46 - Feb 21 with 967 views | builthjack |
| When will the penny drop? on 12:07 - Feb 21 by onehunglow |
Cat. Read please again that which I wrote. Our club WAS created for SWANSEA people as is the case with all large Town clubs. Fans became mobile and travelled from outlying areas to support. That s fine. However, sorry but it hurts a whole city to see us as we are. People in general whether in Builth or Bogata won't be feeling as hurt as an entity
I thought I made it clearer so apogies for that. |
So you are a bigger fan than those that live outside Swansea.
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| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| When will the penny drop? on 13:50 - Feb 21 with 935 views | KeithHaynes |
| When will the penny drop? on 12:07 - Feb 21 by onehunglow |
Cat. Read please again that which I wrote. Our club WAS created for SWANSEA people as is the case with all large Town clubs. Fans became mobile and travelled from outlying areas to support. That s fine. However, sorry but it hurts a whole city to see us as we are. People in general whether in Builth or Bogata won't be feeling as hurt as an entity
I thought I made it clearer so apogies for that. |
The club draws a lot of its support from all over the uk.
And around the world.
That formation of the club as an entity way back like many clubs is a complete success.
If it relied on totally Swansea focussed people it wouldn’t be a club today. Embracing all our fan base no matter where they are from should always be the focus. And they all are delighted when the club does well, and are equally disappointed when they don’t.
I would have thought a lot of patience has gone in to a history of over 100 years. |  |
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| When will the penny drop? on 15:04 - Feb 21 with 889 views | onehunglow |
| When will the penny drop? on 13:50 - Feb 21 by KeithHaynes |
The club draws a lot of its support from all over the uk.
And around the world.
That formation of the club as an entity way back like many clubs is a complete success.
If it relied on totally Swansea focussed people it wouldn’t be a club today. Embracing all our fan base no matter where they are from should always be the focus. And they all are delighted when the club does well, and are equally disappointed when they don’t.
I would have thought a lot of patience has gone in to a history of over 100 years. |
Yes Keith I know it does. Jeez,Wirral has quite a few
My point is our genesis and how a whole town can be affected .
Imagine Wales after a massive rugby defeat which is coming up this Saturday
I’m all for expanding the club and have a posting history complaining as to just how bad our people were at marketing the club when in the Prem League
I’ve watched us play Man Utd in Tampa with a dozen Swans fans . | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 15:38 - Feb 21 with 872 views | Catullus |
| When will the penny drop? on 15:04 - Feb 21 by onehunglow |
Yes Keith I know it does. Jeez,Wirral has quite a few
My point is our genesis and how a whole town can be affected .
Imagine Wales after a massive rugby defeat which is coming up this Saturday
I’m all for expanding the club and have a posting history complaining as to just how bad our people were at marketing the club when in the Prem League
I’ve watched us play Man Utd in Tampa with a dozen Swans fans . |
Sport doesn't affect me that badly any more. Wales losing is just another rugby match, though I do love it when we win.
Life's lessons have at times been harsh but I like to think I paid attention most of the time. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 15:43 - Feb 21 with 866 views | onehunglow |
| When will the penny drop? on 15:38 - Feb 21 by Catullus |
Sport doesn't affect me that badly any more. Wales losing is just another rugby match, though I do love it when we win.
Life's lessons have at times been harsh but I like to think I paid attention most of the time. |
Sport is a distraction from pain for many people.
My missus got her cancer when we were in the Prem and it was a welcome relief and a source of pride too.
She s still with me giving me hell every time I want to drown a pussy when we lose .
Our house will be vacant this Saturday . She will be bailing out even though she is English | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 16:11 - Feb 21 with 848 views | 3swan |
| When will the penny drop? on 09:38 - Feb 21 by onehunglow |
I’m a fan now of 64 years
I’m a Swansea man too.
I ain’t a valley warrior waving his appendage nor a farm boy looking for relief from rural emptiness .
This is primarily a club for Swansea people .. it was formed as such.
Therefore,wherever Swansea born people live in the world,like it or not,the Swans are part of the very soul .
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I'm an ex Swansea Valley man, so my close to 60 years of supporting count as a second class fan as I'm not Swansea born?
Thanks [Post edited 21 Feb 2022 16:13]
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| When will the penny drop? on 16:13 - Feb 21 with 844 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 10:06 - Feb 21 by Whiterockin |
"Not on my watch"
You really think you are more important than you are. |
Sadly he does yes. |  |
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| When will the penny drop? on 16:20 - Feb 21 with 836 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 15:04 - Feb 21 by onehunglow |
Yes Keith I know it does. Jeez,Wirral has quite a few
My point is our genesis and how a whole town can be affected .
Imagine Wales after a massive rugby defeat which is coming up this Saturday
I’m all for expanding the club and have a posting history complaining as to just how bad our people were at marketing the club when in the Prem League
I’ve watched us play Man Utd in Tampa with a dozen Swans fans . |
I watched us play a cup of Welsh Cup games with not many more than that down the Vetch
Also been to quite few away games in the dark old days where we had only a smattering of fans | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 16:22 - Feb 21 with 831 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 15:04 - Feb 21 by onehunglow |
Yes Keith I know it does. Jeez,Wirral has quite a few
My point is our genesis and how a whole town can be affected .
Imagine Wales after a massive rugby defeat which is coming up this Saturday
I’m all for expanding the club and have a posting history complaining as to just how bad our people were at marketing the club when in the Prem League
I’ve watched us play Man Utd in Tampa with a dozen Swans fans . |
"Imagine Wales after a massive rugby defeat which is coming up this Saturday"
In all honesty I think more fans of our biggest four clubs are upset on a Saturday if we all lose than are upset by the Wales rugby team losing | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 16:25 - Feb 21 with 825 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 15:43 - Feb 21 by onehunglow |
Sport is a distraction from pain for many people.
My missus got her cancer when we were in the Prem and it was a welcome relief and a source of pride too.
She s still with me giving me hell every time I want to drown a pussy when we lose .
Our house will be vacant this Saturday . She will be bailing out even though she is English |
Sorry to here about your wife and glad she is around to give you hell.
Count your blessings and look after here.
All the shit that happens on here means nothing compared to real life | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 18:17 - Feb 21 with 788 views | lifelong |
| When will the penny drop? on 11:57 - Feb 21 by onehunglow |
I am the only poster you reply directly to. We know why that is the case. I exchange with most A/C Dr P, Cat. Bound etc with no issues. You are filled with venom. You distrust Martin as much as me but don't have the guts to admit so. You are shameful and shameless and you impress nobody apart from you know who. Get a life, man |
I reply to a number of posters on here, perhaps you would like to elaborate what you mean by ‘we know why that is the case’ and ‘I impress nobody apart from you know who’
Have the guts to say what you mean.
What you say about loyal Swans fans is shameful. You are just a pathetic wind up merchant. |  | | |
| When will the penny drop? on 19:05 - Feb 21 with 740 views | builthjack |
| When will the penny drop? on 15:04 - Feb 21 by onehunglow |
Yes Keith I know it does. Jeez,Wirral has quite a few
My point is our genesis and how a whole town can be affected .
Imagine Wales after a massive rugby defeat which is coming up this Saturday
I’m all for expanding the club and have a posting history complaining as to just how bad our people were at marketing the club when in the Prem League
I’ve watched us play Man Utd in Tampa with a dozen Swans fans . |
You said before that people from outside Swansea were not as big a fan as someone from within Swansea. Make your mind up. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| When will the penny drop? on 22:54 - Feb 21 with 679 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 16:13 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
Sadly he does yes. |
I’ve already responded to that.
Not on my watch is a factual statement, not an indication of my importance.
It says if you troll then I will call you out. I am directly able to implement that promise, so it’s simply a fact not a declaration of importance.
You got those specifics for me yet? You seem to have run away (again) as soon as they are brought out. I will refresh:-
1) what former username am I that’s from Aberdare
2) why am I a liar?
3) where have I said I want Martin sacked?
4) where did I say happy clappers are covering for the tactics?
We will start with those.
Feel free to retract and apologise if you can’t find anything. Ta. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:07 - Feb 21 with 673 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 22:54 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
I’ve already responded to that.
Not on my watch is a factual statement, not an indication of my importance.
It says if you troll then I will call you out. I am directly able to implement that promise, so it’s simply a fact not a declaration of importance.
You got those specifics for me yet? You seem to have run away (again) as soon as they are brought out. I will refresh:-
1) what former username am I that’s from Aberdare
2) why am I a liar?
3) where have I said I want Martin sacked?
4) where did I say happy clappers are covering for the tactics?
We will start with those.
Feel free to retract and apologise if you can’t find anything. Ta. |
Don't wait around for the responses to your questions, as you will wait a long time.
You have shown by your attitude, not just to me, but to quite a few other posters that you feel your view is right and will accept no others.
You also act like the milk monitor on here - full of your own importance
I don't run away but simply have other more important matters to attend to
The fact that your "Not on my watch" was pulled up by someone else shows that it is not only me that finds your attitude intolerable, yet you chose to respond to my tag on to it rather than the original post ?
As for trawling the endless amount of posts you put on here to find supporting evidence, I have more important things to do than pander to a sad little man like you.
Maybe you should find another hobby if my posts bother you so much as you feel you have to respond to each and every one ?
You may well not be our "friend" from Aberdare, however one can be forgiven for making that mistake as he too was an arrogant poster so full of his self importance that he could never see he was wrong and anyone else is right.
Maybe your brother by another mother ? | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:20 - Feb 21 with 665 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 23:07 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
Don't wait around for the responses to your questions, as you will wait a long time.
You have shown by your attitude, not just to me, but to quite a few other posters that you feel your view is right and will accept no others.
You also act like the milk monitor on here - full of your own importance
I don't run away but simply have other more important matters to attend to
The fact that your "Not on my watch" was pulled up by someone else shows that it is not only me that finds your attitude intolerable, yet you chose to respond to my tag on to it rather than the original post ?
As for trawling the endless amount of posts you put on here to find supporting evidence, I have more important things to do than pander to a sad little man like you.
Maybe you should find another hobby if my posts bother you so much as you feel you have to respond to each and every one ?
You may well not be our "friend" from Aberdare, however one can be forgiven for making that mistake as he too was an arrogant poster so full of his self importance that he could never see he was wrong and anyone else is right.
Maybe your brother by another mother ? |
So you are happy to make accusations and lie about posters, but don’t want the burden of proving them (especially when you realise you were wrong).
I will accept everyone’s view if I feel there is a basis of logic and reality there. What view have you expressed that you feel I won’t accept, but should? Any specific examples or shall we add this to the list of sweeping accusations with no basis?
Of course I am sure my views are correct, if I didn’t think they were correct then they wouldn’t be my views. Bizarre thing to say.
I love the fact you are referring to “whiterockin” as someone else as if to give an example of impartiality. Next you will be pointing to Daps and saying “see it’s not just me”. 
I responded to both your tag on troll comment and the original. Can you show me where I didn’t respond to the original or is this yet another we can tag on to the list of lies?
You don’t need to trawl endless posts, I know which threads you claim they are on. You paraphrased one and changed every single word… want me to bump to make it easier for you? No? Didn’t think so.
Well at least you have made one small step to realising your absolute clangers on here.
You declared how you put me on ignore the other week. Do everyone a favour and stick to your word, because you are offering nothing and you will never, ever be able to get the better of me in debate when you are bringing such rubbish to the table - you are dragging every thread down with your trolling.
Stop. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:30 - Feb 21 with 659 views | Dr_Parnassus |
And here is me responding to the original comment, where of course you said that I didn’t.
You really have to stop with these lies, I will keep calling them out and exposing them.
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:30 - Feb 21 with 659 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 23:20 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
So you are happy to make accusations and lie about posters, but don’t want the burden of proving them (especially when you realise you were wrong).
I will accept everyone’s view if I feel there is a basis of logic and reality there. What view have you expressed that you feel I won’t accept, but should? Any specific examples or shall we add this to the list of sweeping accusations with no basis?
Of course I am sure my views are correct, if I didn’t think they were correct then they wouldn’t be my views. Bizarre thing to say.
I love the fact you are referring to “whiterockin” as someone else as if to give an example of impartiality. Next you will be pointing to Daps and saying “see it’s not just me”.
I responded to both your tag on troll comment and the original. Can you show me where I didn’t respond to the original or is this yet another we can tag on to the list of lies?
You don’t need to trawl endless posts, I know which threads you claim they are on. You paraphrased one and changed every single word… want me to bump to make it easier for you? No? Didn’t think so.
Well at least you have made one small step to realising your absolute clangers on here.
You declared how you put me on ignore the other week. Do everyone a favour and stick to your word, because you are offering nothing and you will never, ever be able to get the better of me in debate when you are bringing such rubbish to the table - you are dragging every thread down with your trolling.
Stop. |
Physician heal thyself
Refer you to the EPL discussion
Would you admit you were wrong?
I wont hold my breath | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:34 - Feb 21 with 657 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 23:30 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
Physician heal thyself
Refer you to the EPL discussion
Would you admit you were wrong?
I wont hold my breath |
I did put you on ignore and yet interestingly, found you were still responding to my posts even then !
So if you do not wish to respond to my posts, then don't
Simple really | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:37 - Feb 21 with 655 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 23:30 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
Physician heal thyself
Refer you to the EPL discussion
Would you admit you were wrong?
I wont hold my breath |
Because I wasn’t wrong.
I said Martinez is a better manager than Laudrup in my opinion. You incorrectly stated that I could t say that because both hasn’t managed us in the EPL, I responded asking why does managing us in the EPL matter…
You jumped in far too quick thinking I said “better manager for us” and now floundering yet again in any kind of discussion.
You now want me to admit I’m wrong when I’m clearly correct.  | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:37 - Feb 21 with 654 views | Treforys_Jack |
| When will the penny drop? on 15:38 - Feb 21 by Catullus |
Sport doesn't affect me that badly any more. Wales losing is just another rugby match, though I do love it when we win.
Life's lessons have at times been harsh but I like to think I paid attention most of the time. |
In a nutshell. |  | | |
| When will the penny drop? on 23:38 - Feb 21 with 654 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 23:34 - Feb 21 by STID2017 |
I did put you on ignore and yet interestingly, found you were still responding to my posts even then !
So if you do not wish to respond to my posts, then don't
Simple really |
Huh? Why on earth does you putting me on ignore affect me responding to the silly points you make?
You putting me on ignore means you can’t see my posts, not the other way around.
Christ on a bike | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:41 - Feb 21 with 650 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 23:37 - Feb 21 by Dr_Parnassus |
Because I wasn’t wrong.
I said Martinez is a better manager than Laudrup in my opinion. You incorrectly stated that I could t say that because both hasn’t managed us in the EPL, I responded asking why does managing us in the EPL matter…
You jumped in far too quick thinking I said “better manager for us” and now floundering yet again in any kind of discussion.
You now want me to admit I’m wrong when I’m clearly correct. |
You are too arrogant to ever admit you are wrong
It is so sad it is funny | |
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