| When will the penny drop? 00:44 - Aug 18 with 18332 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Everything that was warned about with regards to switching to a style that the players aren’t suited to is now visible to most. There is a very good reason we didn’t start trying to be Brazil of the 1970’s over the last 2 seasons… and as a result saw the side be one of the best in the league… it’s because the manager realised the limitations of the squad and played to their strengths. That’s management.
I am wondering at what point the collective penny will drop that we cannot continue to play this way UNTIL we have the squad capable to do it. The Championship is too strong a league to be doing that, last time we got to this level we were a slick, well oiled machine with players capable of playing Premier League football in Dyer, Williams, Rangel and Britton. That spine would go on to win the League Cup, finish top half in the Premier League and perform well in Europe…. A championship spine it was not.
We had the players with ability leagues above the level they were playing at meaning we could afford to take some risks with regards to playing style. A nearing prime Leon Britton in league 1 seems a bit laughable now doesn’t it? That’s because it was.
The situation sadly is not the same today. We need to play to our strengths, get some points on the board, get the players in that we need and slowly incorporate the system you want. People talk of long term plans… and then change a system overnight?! We will get slaughtered at this level.
How about that actually becomes the longer term plan touted about and we slowly implement it while protecting our Championship status? Too mad an idea?
We do not want to lose our league position and drop down to league 1 as I see some people now happily stating they wouldn’t mind. I find that sad to read and extremely naive.
Relegation won’t mean us having an easy season to test this style against, we will lose even more players, have less income to replace them and the spiral continues. It’s an arrogant point of view to think relegation can be handled easily by the club.
Relegation is not a positive option and the fact we have gone from play offs to the Premier League to accepting the realities and the weighing up of pros and cons of League 1 football in such a short space of time should tell you something ain’t right.
I like Russell Martin, I think he has a good future in the game, my issue is not with him and I hope he stays for a long time to build something. My issue is with the attitude surrounding everything at the moment that we must play a certain way immediately, regardless of the damage it will cause.
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| When will the penny drop? on 21:53 - Feb 24 with 800 views | shingle |
| When will the penny drop? on 21:38 - Feb 24 by builthjack |
Name your fans. Lets see if they agree.
Go. |
This will be interesting the ball is now in Panassus Court,
Fcuk maybe I should have not said that because he will bombarded me with wrong Tennis predictions so Panassus when I say ball in wrong court it has nothing to do with Tennis just remember that before you reply. [Post edited 24 Feb 2022 21:54]
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| When will the penny drop? on 21:58 - Feb 24 with 759 views | builthjack |
| When will the penny drop? on 21:54 - Feb 24 by Dr_Parnassus |
Well Keith has messaged me several times for my ''unrivalled'' contribution to this board, so yes you are right he has spotted something.
But happy to have you as part of the fan club anyway. Cheers for the message  |
Unrivaled it is  |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| When will the penny drop? on 21:59 - Feb 24 with 756 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 21:58 - Feb 24 by builthjack |
Unrivaled it is |
I agree, thanks very much  | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 22:01 - Feb 24 with 751 views | shingle |
| When will the penny drop? on 21:38 - Feb 24 by builthjack |
Name your fans. Lets see if they agree.
Go. |
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| When will the penny drop? on 22:03 - Feb 24 with 745 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 22:01 - Feb 24 by shingle |
Still waiting. |
What are you waiting for? I answered that one.
Everyone knows who my fan club are, the ones that hang off my every correct word. You don't have to agree you are a fan in order to be one, your actions decide if you are a fan not the words you choose to promote.
I reckon you may well just be one of my biggest, happy to have you...  | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 22:39 - Feb 24 with 706 views | magicdaps10 |
😂
This is brilliant.
I don't think DrP realises how close some posters he is in battle with are as close to Keith as he realises.
DrP, you are making a massive tool of yourself here, I think you need to just push past this post because the hole is already too deep for you.
If you are believing what you type then you are really a wrong un, I will just take with all that I know at hand with the ramblings from you, I will just take it that you are the biggest WUM on this board..... They would have cut your tounge out 100s of years ago with the stuff you are coming out with.
Pick the spade up.... Over to you.
I will get my 🿠[Post edited 24 Feb 2022 22:41]
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| When will the penny drop? on 22:57 - Feb 24 with 695 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 22:39 - Feb 24 by magicdaps10 |
😂
This is brilliant.
I don't think DrP realises how close some posters he is in battle with are as close to Keith as he realises.
DrP, you are making a massive tool of yourself here, I think you need to just push past this post because the hole is already too deep for you.
If you are believing what you type then you are really a wrong un, I will just take with all that I know at hand with the ramblings from you, I will just take it that you are the biggest WUM on this board..... They would have cut your tounge out 100s of years ago with the stuff you are coming out with.
Pick the spade up.... Over to you.
I will get my 🿠[Post edited 24 Feb 2022 22:41]
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What have posters being close with Keith got to do with anything? Keith is welcome to be as close to anyone he wishes, doesn't mean I have to allow them to troll the forum and say ridiculously stupid things.
What a bizarre thing to say, what relevance can you possibly think that can have on anything that anyone has just typed?
Battle? There is no battle. There are the usual few trolling a thread because they are annoyed I am right yet again, and me responding to those people, but it's hardly a battle.
Which post do you think I should not believe? Any specifics? I believe everything I type, always.
I know your forum world has crumbled as of late and everything you were batting for has been bowled out for a golden duck, but taking it out on the people who were spot on is not something you should be very proud of.
You need to read, learn from those wiser than you and take stock. But I am sure you know that already.
Lashing out in anger isn't going to help you and it certainly isn't going to affect me, we both know that. 
But you are welcome to tell me how my view is incorrect, remember to show your workings won't you....  [Post edited 24 Feb 2022 23:08]
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:11 - Feb 24 with 675 views | magicdaps10 |
You really are an oddbod. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:20 - Feb 24 with 662 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 23:11 - Feb 24 by magicdaps10 |
You really are an oddbod. |
Not me that came out with the waffle you just typed squire.
Don't blame me you are too stumped to respond to the points I make. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 23:37 - Feb 24 with 647 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 22:39 - Feb 24 by magicdaps10 |
😂
This is brilliant.
I don't think DrP realises how close some posters he is in battle with are as close to Keith as he realises.
DrP, you are making a massive tool of yourself here, I think you need to just push past this post because the hole is already too deep for you.
If you are believing what you type then you are really a wrong un, I will just take with all that I know at hand with the ramblings from you, I will just take it that you are the biggest WUM on this board..... They would have cut your tounge out 100s of years ago with the stuff you are coming out with.
Pick the spade up.... Over to you.
I will get my 🿠[Post edited 24 Feb 2022 22:41]
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Agree with your first point totally.
Also (and before he has another paddy not suggesting he is this person) but his arrogance and self righteousness and willingness to bitch back at everyone who disagrees with him is uncannily like the guy who used to call Llorente "The Wardrobe" and slag Gylfi off.
If you know who I mean then sure you will recognise many of the same traits ?
He is definitely a WUM - surely no one can be genuinely this arrogant? |  |
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| When will the penny drop? on 00:02 - Feb 25 with 626 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 23:57 - Feb 24 by STID2017 |
Can you explain your definition of troll please ?
Is it someone who follows others around and posts on their posts ( as you just did on the Bradford City one ?)
If so then hypocritical is another apt description for you along with arrogant |
Sure, in this case it would be someone who attempts to divert discussion away from the topic at hand in order to try and garner an emotional response.
With regards to the Bradford thread, I gave my on topic view. Nothing personal in there, no digs, no off topic segues.
You are more than welcome to do what I have done on your Bradford thread and respectfully respond to the points being made in the OP. But you haven't done that for as long as I can remember.
Replying and talking about football certainly is not trolling, no.
Again, you are welcome to reply to the points made in my OP. You are welcome to agree with them to, as they are pretty hard to disagree with now.... | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 00:05 - Feb 25 with 625 views | Dr_Parnassus |
For anyone wondering what my awfully horrible trolling reply was on the Bradford thread…
How very awful of me… | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 00:13 - Feb 25 with 621 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 00:05 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
For anyone wondering what my awfully horrible trolling reply was on the Bradford thread…
How very awful of me… |
Point being Laudrup can not be described as " an incredibly overrated manager " as a fact any more than he can be described as " a great manager " as fact.
I acknowledged that point for clarity.
Would you do the same ? | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 00:15 - Feb 25 with 619 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 00:13 - Feb 25 by STID2017 |
Point being Laudrup can not be described as " an incredibly overrated manager " as a fact any more than he can be described as " a great manager " as fact.
I acknowledged that point for clarity.
Would you do the same ? |
So you think I am trolling because I said he is overrated?
You called him a great manager, you are overrating him. He is not by any stretch of anyone's imagination ''great''.
I am happy to leave that without the caveat you want me to include. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 00:26 - Feb 25 with 613 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 00:15 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
So you think I am trolling because I said he is overrated?
You called him a great manager, you are overrating him. He is not by any stretch of anyone's imagination ''great''.
I am happy to leave that without the caveat you want me to include. |
Which only goes to prove your arrogance because you believe I am wrong ( where as it is just an opinion so cannot be fundamentally wrong) same as yours is not right ( but once again it is just an opinion so cannot be fundamentally right )
Just accept that point at least ?
Or will your pride not allow it ? | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 00:33 - Feb 25 with 611 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 00:26 - Feb 25 by STID2017 |
Which only goes to prove your arrogance because you believe I am wrong ( where as it is just an opinion so cannot be fundamentally wrong) same as yours is not right ( but once again it is just an opinion so cannot be fundamentally right )
Just accept that point at least ?
Or will your pride not allow it ? |
Of course an opinion can be wrong.
If I say I think Messi is the worst footballer on the planet, you are more than welcome to tell me Messi is not anything of the sort.
It's not arrogance in the slightest, I would suggest maybe not being so sensitive to people disagreeing with you.
I love it when people disagree with me as it allows me to probe for their reasoning, unfortunately people avoid talking football at all costs and try and subvert the direction of the conversation to personal tittle tattle because they have no faith they will be able to hold down a debate and fare well.
So for the maybe 5th or 6th time, you are more than welcome to tell me what you do not agree with in the OP. Tell me how Martins tactics are working and how the players look comfortable doing it if you like, I would be fascinating to hear your reasoning... like I gave you in the Laudrup thread.
You see one is an on topic debate, the other is a trolling session.
The difference is stark. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 00:55 - Feb 25 with 601 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 00:33 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
Of course an opinion can be wrong.
If I say I think Messi is the worst footballer on the planet, you are more than welcome to tell me Messi is not anything of the sort.
It's not arrogance in the slightest, I would suggest maybe not being so sensitive to people disagreeing with you.
I love it when people disagree with me as it allows me to probe for their reasoning, unfortunately people avoid talking football at all costs and try and subvert the direction of the conversation to personal tittle tattle because they have no faith they will be able to hold down a debate and fare well.
So for the maybe 5th or 6th time, you are more than welcome to tell me what you do not agree with in the OP. Tell me how Martins tactics are working and how the players look comfortable doing it if you like, I would be fascinating to hear your reasoning... like I gave you in the Laudrup thread.
You see one is an on topic debate, the other is a trolling session.
The difference is stark. |
Some people are worth debating with as they give and take, are accepting of others opinions and are flexible enough to change and accept others points of view.
You are incapable of that and as such are not worthy of debate.
You are not some guru who is all knowing and giving out wise words to the lesser beings.
You are just a football fan who repeats himself like a stuck record and tries to belittle others into submission.
Perhaps when you actually learn a little humility I ( and the supposed "gang" of which you have said I belong ) will start debating with you rather than these back and forth posts which clearly bother you, otherwise yiu would not feel the need to respond.
Arguments must be fun in your family ? | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 01:01 - Feb 25 with 600 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 00:55 - Feb 25 by STID2017 |
Some people are worth debating with as they give and take, are accepting of others opinions and are flexible enough to change and accept others points of view.
You are incapable of that and as such are not worthy of debate.
You are not some guru who is all knowing and giving out wise words to the lesser beings.
You are just a football fan who repeats himself like a stuck record and tries to belittle others into submission.
Perhaps when you actually learn a little humility I ( and the supposed "gang" of which you have said I belong ) will start debating with you rather than these back and forth posts which clearly bother you, otherwise yiu would not feel the need to respond.
Arguments must be fun in your family ? |
I am perfectly accepting of your views, but do you mean you are annoyed because I don't agree with you and change my opinion to align with yours as a result?
Because they are completely different things.
If you are able to disagree with me and explain why then be my guest, I have never stopped anyone from doing that before and only encouraged it. You just don't like the fact I am able to show how I arrived at my point and use a wealth of knowledge and facts to do so.
But that is your issue, not mine.
We debate in our household, not argue.
Nothing gets personal and we are all capable of putting our points forward respectfully. So yes, they are rather fun.
Again, feel free to tell me what you disagree with in the OP and explain your reasoning. Or you can keep dragging the threads down if you like, either is fine with me. Not sure why you think it bothers me that you prefer to troll, does it look like I can't handle someone trolling? I am handling about 4 at once with ease... | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 01:17 - Feb 25 with 592 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 01:01 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
I am perfectly accepting of your views, but do you mean you are annoyed because I don't agree with you and change my opinion to align with yours as a result?
Because they are completely different things.
If you are able to disagree with me and explain why then be my guest, I have never stopped anyone from doing that before and only encouraged it. You just don't like the fact I am able to show how I arrived at my point and use a wealth of knowledge and facts to do so.
But that is your issue, not mine.
We debate in our household, not argue.
Nothing gets personal and we are all capable of putting our points forward respectfully. So yes, they are rather fun.
Again, feel free to tell me what you disagree with in the OP and explain your reasoning. Or you can keep dragging the threads down if you like, either is fine with me. Not sure why you think it bothers me that you prefer to troll, does it look like I can't handle someone trolling? I am handling about 4 at once with ease... |
" I am handling about 4 at once with ease... "
Interesting, where the others ?
As far as I can see, there is only you and me currently posting on here, unless they are on another forum
Anyway as I told you before (and without going into details) life is such that I do not get annoyed with your nonsense.
Just like any other WUM, you are just endured and swatted away as is my preference at the time.
Which is why I sometimes disappear to go and carry on in the real world, where I surround myself with people who are not arrogant and think they are all knowing, but are sadly mistaken.
Interesting that not one person ( even OHL ) has come on here at any point to support you or come to your defence.
Tells it's own story ... | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 01:41 - Feb 25 with 586 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| When will the penny drop? on 01:17 - Feb 25 by STID2017 |
" I am handling about 4 at once with ease... "
Interesting, where the others ?
As far as I can see, there is only you and me currently posting on here, unless they are on another forum
Anyway as I told you before (and without going into details) life is such that I do not get annoyed with your nonsense.
Just like any other WUM, you are just endured and swatted away as is my preference at the time.
Which is why I sometimes disappear to go and carry on in the real world, where I surround myself with people who are not arrogant and think they are all knowing, but are sadly mistaken.
Interesting that not one person ( even OHL ) has come on here at any point to support you or come to your defence.
Tells it's own story ... |
The others are above, I didn't claim all 4 were online at this very moment. Read it carefully this time.
No nonsense here sunshine, the OP is simply 100% football and proven itself anything but nonsense, looks spot on doesn't it? I asked you to tell me where you disagree and you can't, because you probably don't.
From what your recent posts are suggesting, you annoyance seems to stem from the fact I know I'm correct and have confidence in those opinions rather than anything else. That's an issue you have to deal with really, I can't help you with that.
Defend me against what? I am pretty sure people don't want to be dragged into the nonsense you are serving up and know I can handle trolls perfectly well on my own.
Point out where I am wrong...
the fact you can't and prefer to resort to nonsense personal tittle tattle speaks louder than anything you wish to claim, but we both know that don't we, Champ. | |
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| When will the penny drop? on 02:18 - Feb 25 with 576 views | STID2017 |
| When will the penny drop? on 01:41 - Feb 25 by Dr_Parnassus |
The others are above, I didn't claim all 4 were online at this very moment. Read it carefully this time.
No nonsense here sunshine, the OP is simply 100% football and proven itself anything but nonsense, looks spot on doesn't it? I asked you to tell me where you disagree and you can't, because you probably don't.
From what your recent posts are suggesting, you annoyance seems to stem from the fact I know I'm correct and have confidence in those opinions rather than anything else. That's an issue you have to deal with really, I can't help you with that.
Defend me against what? I am pretty sure people don't want to be dragged into the nonsense you are serving up and know I can handle trolls perfectly well on my own.
Point out where I am wrong...
the fact you can't and prefer to resort to nonsense personal tittle tattle speaks louder than anything you wish to claim, but we both know that don't we, Champ. |
Again - "I am handling about 4 at once with ease... "
Not "I can or have handled about 4 ar once with ease ..."
Clearly you are stating "I am" which is in the moment.
At this moment I am typing with my left hand whilst throwing four balls in the air with ease with my right hand ( actually confession I only am throwing one ball in the air at the moment, but the other three may be along any moment )
Do you see how either ridiculous or valid both statements are ? | |
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