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European super league on 15:32 - Apr 19 by JustJules
Don't worry good folk, Boris is here to save the day! Always keen to show he is a man of the people and support any popular trending cause (unless that involves giving financial aid to those who need it most), Boris de Pfeffel Johnson has promised to sort this out. Well that's that taken care of then..
Football as we know it in this country is going to be smashed to pieces! These 6 clubs are a shambles and just proves this game is all about money to them! Void the league cup final Sunday!! Dock them all points and relegate them! No longer the working mans game!!!!!
European super league on 21:26 - Apr 19 by BucksRanger
Charlie Austin tweet.
Football as we know it in this country is going to be smashed to pieces! These 6 clubs are a shambles and just proves this game is all about money to them! Void the league cup final Sunday!! Dock them all points and relegate them! No longer the working mans game!!!!!
European super league on 21:26 - Apr 19 by BucksRanger
Charlie Austin tweet.
Football as we know it in this country is going to be smashed to pieces! These 6 clubs are a shambles and just proves this game is all about money to them! Void the league cup final Sunday!! Dock them all points and relegate them! No longer the working mans game!!!!!
The only problem with anyone being thrown out of the league is the existing tv contracts with Sky and BT.They would both sue the FA because their view of the 14 teams left would devalue their product.A lot of armchair fans won’t pay top dollar to watch southampton v burnley every week.
When do the existing deals finish?Thats when the FA and premier league will be free to do what they please with the big 6.Same with UEFA and the European cups.They will face major law suits if they throw clubs out of their competitions.
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European super league on 21:45 - Apr 19 with 2434 views
The only problem with anyone being thrown out of the league is the existing tv contracts with Sky and BT.They would both sue the FA because their view of the 14 teams left would devalue their product.A lot of armchair fans won’t pay top dollar to watch southampton v burnley every week.
When do the existing deals finish?Thats when the FA and premier league will be free to do what they please with the big 6.Same with UEFA and the European cups.They will face major law suits if they throw clubs out of their competitions.
Deal finishes 2021/22 season.
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European super league on 21:47 - Apr 19 with 2430 views
The underlying reasons touted for the breakaway league are the unsustainably of these top clubs and the debt/ losses they are running up. Just to be clear here the losses being made are entirely of their own making. As a group they have tried to outbid and overpay players and agents year in year out, this has eventually caught up with them, unfortunately as it has already hit the rest of the league.
Football is awash with money but so much of that money goes straight to players and agents that in the vast majority of clubs that they generate significant losses.
If they truly wanted to resolve the issue of losses being made they would agree to a European salary cap - either in how much top players can earn or an overall cap. Reduce the ability for arms races with one another on the top players (which then cascades down to the others) and all the clubs in the football league could intimately be run sustainably.
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European super league on 21:49 - Apr 19 with 2421 views
So one unnamed board member from the 6 said that owners are against relegation as it puts their investments at risk, maybe before pouring millions into something you should do some due diligence and realise this before riding roughshod of 130+ years of history, if you want the American model buy a fûcking franchise in America.
favourite cheese mature Cheddar. FFS there is no such thing as the EPL
The only problem with anyone being thrown out of the league is the existing tv contracts with Sky and BT.They would both sue the FA because their view of the 14 teams left would devalue their product.A lot of armchair fans won’t pay top dollar to watch southampton v burnley every week.
When do the existing deals finish?Thats when the FA and premier league will be free to do what they please with the big 6.Same with UEFA and the European cups.They will face major law suits if they throw clubs out of their competitions.
I don't know if they say deducted these 6 all 20 points they'd have a hell of a finish to the season on their hands rather than the dead rubber that currently awaits them. Tv companies would be delighted
European super league on 21:49 - Apr 19 by loftboy
So one unnamed board member from the 6 said that owners are against relegation as it puts their investments at risk, maybe before pouring millions into something you should do some due diligence and realise this before riding roughshod of 130+ years of history, if you want the American model buy a fûcking franchise in America.
European super league on 21:49 - Apr 19 by loftboy
So one unnamed board member from the 6 said that owners are against relegation as it puts their investments at risk, maybe before pouring millions into something you should do some due diligence and realise this before riding roughshod of 130+ years of history, if you want the American model buy a fûcking franchise in America.
I don't understand the argument about relegation. I can't imagine these 12 clubs getting relegated in my lifetime so I don't see the relevance of potential relegation mucking up their finances.
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European super league on 23:07 - Apr 19 with 2103 views
Seen on Twitter... "Having Spurs in the ESL is like you or me popping into the Crucible during the World Snooker Championships and putting 50p on the table to play the winner".
The grass is always greener.
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European super league on 23:12 - Apr 19 with 2089 views
European super league on 19:46 - Apr 19 by danehoop
Doubt a letter of intent is a legally enforceable contract sufficient to take action.
If the government wants to do anything with this it has two primary levers to use - taxation - so large windfall profit corporation tax on football clubs outside of recognised league structure, with switch to taxation on income (not profit) for clubs outside of the league. Then apply visa restrictions on foreign nationals on sports visas outside of the league structures.
All of that is relatively easy to do and by hitting the income stream and relative available workforce you pretty much remove the push/pull factors in this deal.
They wont though.
I wasn't referring to the government but to the Premier League, UEFA and FIFA.
Interesting idea but I suspect the government won't need to impose such sanctions as the governing bodies will beat them to it. I can't see top players sacrificing international duty to play in a quasi-friendly ESL in front of next to no fans.
I suspect that this proposal is a smokescreen hiding the true objective which is to shift more power (and therefore income) in the big clubs' favour. Indeed, they have been skewing things in their favour by stealth for some time now. For example, from next season the champions league will use a coefficient to ensure that at least 30% of prize money goes to those clubs with a history of competing in the competition, regardless of how they ultimately fare.
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European super league on 23:21 - Apr 19 with 2069 views
The only problem with anyone being thrown out of the league is the existing tv contracts with Sky and BT.They would both sue the FA because their view of the 14 teams left would devalue their product.A lot of armchair fans won’t pay top dollar to watch southampton v burnley every week.
When do the existing deals finish?Thats when the FA and premier league will be free to do what they please with the big 6.Same with UEFA and the European cups.They will face major law suits if they throw clubs out of their competitions.
Sky and BT would be minded take a more pragmatic, long-term view as their product is under threat if the ESL goes ahead. The big clubs realise that matchday and TV revenue are a drop in the ocean compared to the kind of money they could earn from global pay-per-view. They want to wrestle control away from the likes of BT and Sky and own their own streaming rights, image rights, etc. For instance, Manchester United allegedly have 150 million fans worldwide. Imagine if they could stream all of their home matches at a conservative £5 a pop? That's £750million revenue from streaming alone. Then you add merchandise, sponsorship, advertising, etc. The numbers are mind-boggling.
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European super league on 23:56 - Apr 19 with 2006 views
European super league on 23:07 - Apr 19 by Esox_Lucius
Seen on Twitter... "Having Spurs in the ESL is like you or me popping into the Crucible during the World Snooker Championships and putting 50p on the table to play the winner".
It's like Bananaman joining the Avengers
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European super league on 00:04 - Apr 20 with 1986 views
The 'Three Musketeers' on this are, John Henry, Avram Glazer and Stan Kroenke.
A bloke I'm pally with knows John Henry, or at least he did when Henry was thinking about buying Liverpool. He reckoned Henry was a decent fellah! Well that's one discussion that wont be arising in the future.
"The Three Musketeers": Pathos, Bathos and Avarice?
Not only is Boris Johnson "riding to the rescue", the Torygraph and Times lead with Prince William weighing in. No word yet from The Standard on Cara Delevigne's views.
Looking forward to the next issue of The Catholic Herald: "'A bunch of c*nts' - Pope blasts Superleague"
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European super league on 05:53 - Apr 20 with 1852 views
I'm more interested in how this will play out for the other 14 and the 20 or so clubs in the Championship, all with owners who harbour PL ambitions (not to mention those lower like Hull, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Charlton, Ipswich, Bolton).
If it suddenly emerges overnight that the PL dream is no more, there's going to be a lot of owners suddenly trying to get rid of these assets PDQ.
Let them go, the rest can hunker down, negotiate a barebones TV deal with BBC/ITV for one marquee game a week. Slash wages to a sustainable level and bring back gate-sharing. Make it clear that the fan on the terraces is more important than some fcker watching on their iPhone in New York.
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European super league on 06:49 - Apr 20 with 1801 views
European super league on 05:53 - Apr 20 by Mistication92
I'm more interested in how this will play out for the other 14 and the 20 or so clubs in the Championship, all with owners who harbour PL ambitions (not to mention those lower like Hull, Sunderland, Portsmouth, Charlton, Ipswich, Bolton).
If it suddenly emerges overnight that the PL dream is no more, there's going to be a lot of owners suddenly trying to get rid of these assets PDQ.
Let them go, the rest can hunker down, negotiate a barebones TV deal with BBC/ITV for one marquee game a week. Slash wages to a sustainable level and bring back gate-sharing. Make it clear that the fan on the terraces is more important than some fcker watching on their iPhone in New York.
yeah, I really see this as potentially a positive move. If the future of the remaining clubs can be secured in the first instance. but how will Everton and Liverpool fans feel, no more derbies?
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European super league on 07:12 - Apr 20 with 1769 views
Real Madrid President Florentino Perez said the decision to create the new league, which his club would be a part of, was in part taken because "young people are no longer interested" in the game. He told a Spanish TV show: "Audiences are decreasing and rights are decreasing and something had to be done. We are all ruined. Television has to change so we can adapt."
Maybe they’d be more interested if they hadn’t been consciously priced-out of the stadiums, and if they could watch games on free-to-air TV? Out of sight, out of mind...
These clubs that are always breathlessly announcing record turnovers, have simultaneously managed to accumulate record debts, but everything would be fine if they could only have a bit more TV cash. The one thing that would help these clubs would be a genuine, vaguely sensible salary cap, but that would erode the advantages afforded them by FFP, and increase competition, so they’d never agree to that. Ozil on £350kpw at 9th place Arsenal sums it all up - give them a bit more money and watch as they pay someone else £450kpw whilst finishing 9th in an exhibition league.
I feel sorry for their genuine fans, and the whole league would be a bloodbath, but I would just fu ck them off now. The game is fuc ked as it is and completely unsustainable - something approaching sanity might be restored. Long term the game might be stronger if our top two leagues saw a substantial drop in income, with salaries reflecting that.
Fulham FC: It's the taking part that counts
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European super league on 07:17 - Apr 20 with 1753 views
Real Madrid President Florentino Perez said the decision to create the new league, which his club would be a part of, was in part taken because "young people are no longer interested" in the game. He told a Spanish TV show: "Audiences are decreasing and rights are decreasing and something had to be done. We are all ruined. Television has to change so we can adapt."
Maybe they’d be more interested if they hadn’t been consciously priced-out of the stadiums, and if they could watch games on free-to-air TV? Out of sight, out of mind...
These clubs that are always breathlessly announcing record turnovers, have simultaneously managed to accumulate record debts, but everything would be fine if they could only have a bit more TV cash. The one thing that would help these clubs would be a genuine, vaguely sensible salary cap, but that would erode the advantages afforded them by FFP, and increase competition, so they’d never agree to that. Ozil on £350kpw at 9th place Arsenal sums it all up - give them a bit more money and watch as they pay someone else £450kpw whilst finishing 9th in an exhibition league.
I feel sorry for their genuine fans, and the whole league would be a bloodbath, but I would just fu ck them off now. The game is fuc ked as it is and completely unsustainable - something approaching sanity might be restored. Long term the game might be stronger if our top two leagues saw a substantial drop in income, with salaries reflecting that.
yeah, i'm always jealous when karl says how much a season ticket is at Hibs. They haven't got the big TV money, so have to rely on getting fans into the ground
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European super league on 07:41 - Apr 20 with 1704 views
Real Madrid President Florentino Perez said the decision to create the new league, which his club would be a part of, was in part taken because "young people are no longer interested" in the game. He told a Spanish TV show: "Audiences are decreasing and rights are decreasing and something had to be done. We are all ruined. Television has to change so we can adapt."
Maybe they’d be more interested if they hadn’t been consciously priced-out of the stadiums, and if they could watch games on free-to-air TV? Out of sight, out of mind...
These clubs that are always breathlessly announcing record turnovers, have simultaneously managed to accumulate record debts, but everything would be fine if they could only have a bit more TV cash. The one thing that would help these clubs would be a genuine, vaguely sensible salary cap, but that would erode the advantages afforded them by FFP, and increase competition, so they’d never agree to that. Ozil on £350kpw at 9th place Arsenal sums it all up - give them a bit more money and watch as they pay someone else £450kpw whilst finishing 9th in an exhibition league.
I feel sorry for their genuine fans, and the whole league would be a bloodbath, but I would just fu ck them off now. The game is fuc ked as it is and completely unsustainable - something approaching sanity might be restored. Long term the game might be stronger if our top two leagues saw a substantial drop in income, with salaries reflecting that.
Totally agree with that yet it’s surprising how many supporters are, at best, luke warm about any wage cap.
In the end it’s players inflated salaries that are driving footballs problems.
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European super league on 07:45 - Apr 20 with 1688 views
I think this is a stunt and postering by the 'big' clubs. A very crude and badly thought out way to bend the arm re changing the Champions League.
Interesting that the shares in all those clubs went up sharply. Shows how little people with serious money care about fans and history. However it is a proper club brand disaster that has exposed the players and managers at those clubs to unfair abuse. Not their decision. It will take years for those clubs to recover any kind of respect from 99% of the world's fan base.
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