| Yet another beheading on 08:00 - Oct 30 with 963 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yet another beheading on 07:28 - Oct 30 by Dr_Winston |
The Catholic Church was essentially a Caliphate for over a thousand years. No matter who was in power in a particular area they all paid homage to Rome and its Empire. How many millions have died to sate that particular religious sects greed and intolerance? How many still die because of its teachings?
Islam as a religion is about 600 years younger than Christianity. That would put it in the same place as Christianity was in the 1400's. Just about when shit like the Spanish Inquisition was going on in other words.
The problem is those fermenting trouble aren't dealt with properly. Monitoring and imprisoning them doesn't work. De-radicalising them is patchy at best. And as many countries have recently found out, allowing potentially radical nutters in en masse probably can't go on for much longer either without fomenting major public discontent. |
Absolutely, but I was very careful to state “in this Millenia”.
The world however was a very different place then. So it is important that nobody rationalises this barbarity by comparing modern day standards of behaviour with that of times gone by.
Modern day Christianity and modern day Islam is chalk and cheese when it comes to violent terror incidents, can’t even be mentioned in the same breath. That is not exonerating Christianity for their actions back then, equally abhorrent. |  |
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| Yet another beheading on 08:25 - Oct 30 with 948 views | Dr_Winston |
So as long as we don't include stuff that's older than Billie Eilish then Catholicism is clean. OK. |  |
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| Yet another beheading on 08:37 - Oct 30 with 947 views | Highjack |
| Yet another beheading on 07:28 - Oct 30 by Dr_Winston |
The Catholic Church was essentially a Caliphate for over a thousand years. No matter who was in power in a particular area they all paid homage to Rome and its Empire. How many millions have died to sate that particular religious sects greed and intolerance? How many still die because of its teachings?
Islam as a religion is about 600 years younger than Christianity. That would put it in the same place as Christianity was in the 1400's. Just about when shit like the Spanish Inquisition was going on in other words.
The problem is those fermenting trouble aren't dealt with properly. Monitoring and imprisoning them doesn't work. De-radicalising them is patchy at best. And as many countries have recently found out, allowing potentially radical nutters in en masse probably can't go on for much longer either without fomenting major public discontent. |
There was a long period of time where Islam was the beacon of the world for education, science, culture, literature and architecture. They were miles ahead of much of Christian world for a long long time. They’ve regressed largely due to controlling regimes who put more scope on obedience rather than education in order to control the population. |  |
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| Yet another beheading on 09:16 - Oct 30 with 933 views | onehunglow |
They also seem prone to beheading and bombing those in other who don' tbelieve the nonense they do-unlike Jews really. |  |
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| Yet another beheading on 09:38 - Oct 30 with 923 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| Yet another beheading on 08:25 - Oct 30 by Dr_Winston |
So as long as we don't include stuff that's older than Billie Eilish then Catholicism is clean. OK. |
No, but we are talking about the modern day. Hence why I was clear I was not making a historical point.
I also made it clear that it was in no way exonerating Christianity from its former sins, in fact I said that exact sentence word for word, so I can only assume you are intentionally taking my point off base. Unsure why you would want to do that, but hey.
So in short, making a modern day comparison of present day Islamic terror to times that have been and gone isn’t an argument from a genuine standpoint. Your most recent example was “lynchings of black people” (of which about a third were white by the way), the vast majority of the people on this planet were not alive to witness that. Times have changed.
But more pertinent and obvious examples such as the crusades were 800 years ago and consigned to the history books as humanity moved forward.
So again, to compare Islamic terror today to Christianity today is baseless and intentionally obtuse. [Post edited 30 Oct 2020 9:40]
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| Yet another beheading on 09:40 - Oct 30 with 925 views | Kerouac |
| Yet another beheading on 19:52 - Oct 29 by Dr_Parnassus |
Not sure you can equate the two. I don’t see many Christian versions of caliphates established in this Millenia.
I have no dog in this fight as I am an atheist and have seen murderous Christian nutters too, such as Brevik.
But Christian terrorism can’t be put in the same sentence as Islamic terrorism, not in the modern day. To suggest so is lunacy. |
Correct.
People are hiding behind rhetoric about religion because they are cowards.
The problem is the problem, now...don't get fooled by people saying "yeah but, these people are nasty too".
Can somebody point to the Islamic country that is tolerating Christians walking into their Mosques and murdering people, beheading them.
No you can't.
This idiocy of tolerating a religion that teaches people to hate us, to hate our society, to hate our values, and wants our young people to live in a country that does as they say (re: free speech) or expect to be murdered...NEEDS TO STOP.
...and the idea that most Muslims don't agree with the terrorism done in their name is a pretty tough argument to make when you have Muslim leaders from across the world lining up to condemn Macron, THIS WEEK!
Grow some balls people. |  |
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| Yet another beheading on 09:42 - Oct 30 with 921 views | Kerouac |
| Yet another beheading on 23:26 - Oct 29 by Andy1300 |
So he was a Tunisian ‘boat immigrant’
How many are landing on our shores!
How many are in Penally? [Post edited 29 Oct 2020 23:27]
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At this point you have to be a moron not to see it. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 09:44 - Oct 30 with 918 views | Kerouac |
| Yet another beheading on 08:25 - Oct 30 by Dr_Winston |
So as long as we don't include stuff that's older than Billie Eilish then Catholicism is clean. OK. |
Please show me an example of Christians murdering Muslims in their countries in the name of Christianity in the last 100 years. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 09:48 - Oct 30 with 905 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Yet another beheading on 08:37 - Oct 30 by Highjack |
There was a long period of time where Islam was the beacon of the world for education, science, culture, literature and architecture. They were miles ahead of much of Christian world for a long long time. They’ve regressed largely due to controlling regimes who put more scope on obedience rather than education in order to control the population. |
Well if you call being involved in the slave trade for over 2000 years a beacon of light guess you are right. Even their prophet owned slaves. While we British tear a few statues down of people loosely connected to the slave trade movements to the Muslim slave trade are allowed to prosper. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 13:59 - Oct 30 with 862 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
The most popular Muslim athlete in the world this morning published a statement and picture inciting violence against Macron and all others who "offend Muslim believers".
He's arguably the most influential Muslim in the world toward young, Western Muslims.
This isn't going to get any better. I shudder to think how frequent these attacks would be if Western countries weren't spending colossal sums of money, time and resources working tirelessly to prevent as many as they can.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/mma/khabib-instagram-emmanuel-macron |  |
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| Yet another beheading on 14:01 - Oct 30 with 859 views | onehunglow |
I wish the world would offend ALL religions.
Maybe one day,the world will realise religion is only there to make us feel better about dying | |
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| Yet another beheading on 14:07 - Oct 30 with 853 views | Kerouac |
| Yet another beheading on 14:01 - Oct 30 by onehunglow |
I wish the world would offend ALL religions.
Maybe one day,the world will realise religion is only there to make us feel better about dying |
We have lots of Hindus, Sikhs and Jews in this country. They are not behaving in this way.
Islam is the problem. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 14:10 - Oct 30 with 851 views | onehunglow |
Not arguing that at all. Even fundamental Jews do not slaughter people en masse | |
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| Yet another beheading on 14:52 - Oct 30 with 824 views | FieryJack |
| Yet another beheading on 09:44 - Oct 30 by Kerouac |
Please show me an example of Christians murdering Muslims in their countries in the name of Christianity in the last 100 years. |
The brutal attempts by Christian Orthodox Serbs and Catholic Croats to "cleanse" Bosnia and Kosovo of Muslims in the 1990s is the only example I can think of.
Although it could be argued that was more to do with extreme nationalism rather than religious persecution. Difficult to disentangle the two.
Weren't the recent murderous attacks on Rohinga muslims in NE Burma carried out by Christians?
Admittedly, it's hard to find examples, but there are a few here and there.
Edit: Nope, I'm wrong: Rohingas were attacked by Buhddists. [Post edited 30 Oct 2020 14:56]
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| Yet another beheading on 16:16 - Oct 30 with 796 views | Highjack |
| Yet another beheading on 09:48 - Oct 30 by felixstowe_jack |
Well if you call being involved in the slave trade for over 2000 years a beacon of light guess you are right. Even their prophet owned slaves. While we British tear a few statues down of people loosely connected to the slave trade movements to the Muslim slave trade are allowed to prosper. |
Yeah they had slaves just like the Egyptians, the Greeks, the Romans, the vikings, the french, the Dutch, the Portuguese, the Chinese, the British, the Americans, and pretty much every nation and civilisation in history. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 16:56 - Oct 30 with 778 views | Boundy |
It appears the murder of 3 innocents is less than important than "respecting" a religion .
We're doomed
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| Yet another beheading on 17:32 - Oct 30 with 763 views | Jack11 |
We pussy foot around it too much. White security guard in the Manchester arena worried about what might happen if he accosted the twitchy backpack carrying looney. Let me tell you this for nothing, if I’m ever in a public place and I see something along those lines, said individual is getting an absolute pasting. I’ll live with the consequences if he’s innocent. His people have bought it on themselves. | | | |
| Yet another beheading on 17:43 - Oct 30 with 749 views | FieryJack |
| Yet another beheading on 17:32 - Oct 30 by Jack11 |
We pussy foot around it too much. White security guard in the Manchester arena worried about what might happen if he accosted the twitchy backpack carrying looney. Let me tell you this for nothing, if I’m ever in a public place and I see something along those lines, said individual is getting an absolute pasting. I’ll live with the consequences if he’s innocent. His people have bought it on themselves. |
Understand your anger but that's not the way to go, mate.
Otherwise all Asians carrying heavy back-packs will be set upon up and down the country.
If someone looks suspicious, report it.
Having said that, most of these young stewards I've come across at events are not up to the job - not mature or street wise enough.
Not their fault, really - the whole "security" industry needs looking at. | | | |
| Yet another beheading on 18:00 - Oct 30 with 733 views | Jack11 |
| Yet another beheading on 17:43 - Oct 30 by FieryJack |
Understand your anger but that's not the way to go, mate.
Otherwise all Asians carrying heavy back-packs will be set upon up and down the country.
If someone looks suspicious, report it.
Having said that, most of these young stewards I've come across at events are not up to the job - not mature or street wise enough.
Not their fault, really - the whole "security" industry needs looking at. |
Point taken bud.
Perhaps it’s a fault, perhaps not but I’ve always seen things in black and white terms. If someone comes round my house and starts trying to tell me what to watch on tv or whatever they can do one. It’s the same with radical islamists. If they don’t like it here, they can go back to where they or their ancestors came from. It’s ok to not like it here but don’t try changing us. I mean why are these more radical ones even here? They hate it, they don’t integrate, they view us as sinners. It’s the same in lots of western countries too - yes some of them may be 3rd or 4th generations but the point remains. Go somewhere where the values you live by are reflected. | | | |
| Yet another beheading on 18:39 - Oct 30 with 703 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Yet another beheading on 14:37 - Oct 29 by Dr_Winston |
"but Islam does"
Your exact words. |
Have you read the translation of the Kuran?
The Bible say's go forth and multiply, do you know what the Kuran says? | | | |
| Yet another beheading on 18:46 - Oct 30 with 700 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Yet another beheading on 17:43 - Oct 30 by FieryJack |
Understand your anger but that's not the way to go, mate.
Otherwise all Asians carrying heavy back-packs will be set upon up and down the country.
If someone looks suspicious, report it.
Having said that, most of these young stewards I've come across at events are not up to the job - not mature or street wise enough.
Not their fault, really - the whole "security" industry needs looking at. |
Have you got any problem with the French police shooting the suspect 14 times?
Or do you only complain when US cops do so, or do they have to wait until the knife wielder has killed and beheaded people? | | | |
| Yet another beheading on 19:04 - Oct 30 with 687 views | Dr_Winston |
| Yet another beheading on 18:39 - Oct 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
Have you read the translation of the Kuran?
The Bible say's go forth and multiply, do you know what the Kuran says? |
You really want to play this game?
"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves". - Numbers 31:17-18 | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Yet another beheading on 19:15 - Oct 30 with 680 views | Flashberryjack |
| Yet another beheading on 19:04 - Oct 30 by Dr_Winston |
You really want to play this game?
"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves". - Numbers 31:17-18 |
Old or new testament ? |  |
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| Yet another beheading on 19:16 - Oct 30 with 679 views | Highjack |
| Yet another beheading on 18:46 - Oct 30 by A_Fans_Dad |
Have you got any problem with the French police shooting the suspect 14 times?
Or do you only complain when US cops do so, or do they have to wait until the knife wielder has killed and beheaded people? |
It’s clear the french police are institutionally and systemically racist. | |
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| Yet another beheading on 19:22 - Oct 30 with 675 views | Boundy |
| Yet another beheading on 19:04 - Oct 30 by Dr_Winston |
You really want to play this game?
"Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves". - Numbers 31:17-18 |
Just asking but how many take the written word of the testament in a literal sense ?
We can choose to bury our heads in the sand but the fact is there are enough out there who are willing to kill in the name of their god , not everyone for sure but like a dripping tap its going become a flood one day . | |
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